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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 20:25:34 GMT
Just listened to Barton's comments pre-match saying he wouldn't have signed a single one of our players when he was at Fleetwood. "And that's not being disrespectful to the players here...." Not much Joey. Disgraceful comments and guaranteed to demotivate the team. Now THAT'S being negligent. He HAS to be sacked for that. Ridiculously stupid thing to say. How the f**k is that going to inspire them? Barton has the hump he's going down and he's taking it out on all around him. But this is OUR club Joey - you don't get to do that. I suppose Wael needs to decide what fence he's on. He sacks Barton and reappoints to assimilate the old and new players. OR he backs Barton releases about 13 and loans out as many as possible for Barton to sign 10 plus newcomers. Wael needs to decide his vision very carefully.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 20:03:25 GMT
The best way Wael can spend his money this summer is to buy up some contracts and get these fakes out of the club. We are the worst club in League One .... Total farce of a club... It be interesting to find out who's on 2 or 3 year contracts . The ones on 2 could be loaned out and a pay off in January window to move on. Those on 3 is a bit like the Bennett saga.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 19:48:55 GMT
3 managers this season and we've got worse with each one! The players ain't interested no team could ever be this bad. Unless Wael begs and convinces these players to move on with a package . Any new players will be drowned by the negativity . I really don't know were to start . Much much worst unity than any relegation side I can recall.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 19:33:12 GMT
The funny thing is with so many players under contract next season, Joey is actually going to have to convince other teams to take them off our hands. Even on a free, who would want them? And that, in a nutshell, is why we cannot assume we won’t tumble out of the league next season. We are stuck with these players. This is the big problem !. We got a majority bunch of players who either not good enough or want out. They then influence the influx of new players. Swindon Rochdale northampton are all fighting for there's life's . We are in a terrible state .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 18:46:40 GMT
8 points from the drop . A team that don't care and can't wait to collect wages and get the summer break at the expense of the fans !
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 20, 2021 18:42:30 GMT
Can't wait to season ends . Its gone from being gutted to sad to depressed and now angry . Do these people really care about the shirt ?.
Can a team be this bad ?.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 19:33:48 GMT
But you don’t want to support a team in league 2? Is that your point? Because the club has shown no ambition? I’ve always been of the impression that you SUPPORT your club whatever the weather? (Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your point?) Of course but you don't support the club hoping they stay in L2 all your life because L1 is too big for you, otherwise what is the point in it all. You are 100% right div 3 shouldn't be too big for us . However is it not true div one football results in silly debt : conflict and arguments ?. If we are losing £4 mil a year : who's gonna fund the £20 mil every 5 years ?.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 19:10:56 GMT
I have held a season ticket for the last 7 years, my brother stopped buying one the year we dropped out the league, and he said. "The problem with season tickets are that they are an expensive gamble. You pay up front and hope that some good players are signed and that the team does ok. I thought that after watching them since 68, and being a bit better off then I would stay with it. But here is the question. Do I just buy one anyway? Or like my brother dont buy one. I can never understand why you cannot buy a season ticket right up until the day before the first game. Surely more people would buy one if the window was extended, so that you could see what the team was (more or less). Meanwhile after saturday I wanted to sell my Gas number plate, as I was becoming very embarrassed by it All depends on your personal beliefs. If you believe regardless of results then yes renew. If you believe it's entertainment and you want progress . Then that's a different matter. What is clear is success breeds support . When we went up our S.T sales were nearly 6000 . Next season it will drop 50% from that. Also some people have been affected by covid and the pricing for sports events is sky rocketing. Some people generally can't afford it . In the pass I bought S.T for years but now I get very little satisfaction and enjoyment .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 18:59:56 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 14:57:50 GMT
Can anyone who can remember share stories of the last stand we built which was 1959 ? . Family stand at twerton park... I read it was funded by Bath community award . The Lego stand holding about 100. Are you sure we paid for it ?
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 13:52:58 GMT
Can anyone who can remember share stories of the last stand we built which was 1959 ? .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 12:48:43 GMT
What are the exciting plans Wael has that so convincingly lured the last three Rovers managers to readily join? Are they all being that gullible to believe this bullshit? Can't see what is so exciting about a supposedly 15,000 seater stadium. All these great plans are a mystery to Rovers loyal fans. We have all been taken for a ride for so long. Got to the stage where i hardly believe a word. Firstly a good read from the thread starter. What I've learned ?. Never again to build up expectations and believe one person can deliver a new ground and a shot at championship football. I like so many actually believed the 'hype' around Wael and was taken in so much I believed for the first time in 40 years. The problem with having big dreams is you fall when they aren't achieved. So this relegation feels really tuff and hard . Im not attacking Wael just simply acknowledging it was unrealistic to expect immediate progression. I should of read the signs when players started leaving like Bodin Taylor Harrison Brown Lockyer and the biggest bombshell of all JCH signing for Peterboro a club no bigger than ours. This is what I've learned .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 14:27:34 GMT
Yes hes become a poor player but a few things to consider. Firstly he started with two strikers who never kicked a ball and Daly have not lived up to the hype . Secondly : our squad as a collective is very poor . Lastly up until Xmas he was doing O.K and another striker or two could of progressed him. I started a thread over a year ago saying " if we sign a quality striker along side JCH we will go up ". Well it's true but not with us. Hanlan as gone poor in a club that is falling apart badly. . Also when JCH was 23, he only scored 6 goals in 29 games for Coventy before coming here. His goals to game ratio at League 1 level for Oldham, Rotherham and Coventry before signing for Rovers was worse than Hanlans. Hanlan has been flogged to death abd hasn't had any assistance from anybody else in a quite frankly absolutely sh*t team. To suggest Hanlan is anywhere near being one of the worst strikers for Rovers is absolute nonsense. Again it's the crazy recruitment of having 4 left backs and 5 right backs total 9 players and only having 2 other strikers who never kicked a ball. So any striker to play with two kids and score regularly is an exception. The system failed Hanlan and it's made him a poor player..
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 14:17:08 GMT
Jaakola won't play in League 2. Nicholson won't either. McCormick wont be here, he'll be at a Championship club or at the very least a decent League 1 outfit. Leahy may stay. They're the only 4 that have any credibility whatsoever. A whole new team will need to be assembled. Edit: Brandon Hanlan I feel deserves another chance with a strike partner too. Plus a few of the young lads, Zain Walker, Martinez, Mehew, Hargreaves etc to be given a chance e You must be joking about Brandon Hanlon. He’s a big part of the reason we are in this mess. Swap him for jch and we stay up easily. Hanlon is toothless, physically weak, mentally weak and one of the worst forwards to have led the line for the gas in history Yes hes become a poor player but a few things to consider. Firstly he started with two strikers who never kicked a ball and Daly have not lived up to the hype . Secondly : our squad as a collective is very poor . Lastly up until Xmas he was doing O.K and another striker or two could of progressed him. I started a thread over a year ago saying " if we sign a quality striker along side JCH we will go up ". Well it's true but not with us. Hanlan as gone poor in a club that is falling apart badly. .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:59:30 GMT
Jaakola won't play in League 2. Nicholson won't either. McCormick wont be here, he'll be at a Championship club or at the very least a decent League 1 outfit. Leahy may stay. They're the only 4 that have any credibility whatsoever. A whole new team will need to be assembled. Edit: Brandon Hanlan I feel deserves another chance with a strike partner too. Plus a few of the young lads, Zain Walker, Martinez, Mehew, Hargreaves etc to be given a chance This is the worry and usually happens with a relegated side . It's important Wael gives a good budget and the focus is on attacking / wide players. Don't forget we still got tons of defenders / mids still under contract not breaking sweat. A very difficult job..
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:41:38 GMT
Would they? 3 managers have failed with this bunch of players. let's be honest he has a bunch of crap to work with, don't go blaming Barton, you want someone to blame then you can blame Garner Widdrington and Tisdale they are the ones that built this sh** team not Barton Everyone will have an individual view but I think Garner is the one who had a massive budget ( some say top 6 ) and bought an over kill of players not needed. I could name 5 straight off .. Of course Wael should have been overseeing him and alarm bells should of been raised when he signed kiokt and Liddle. Of course by then he used up 95 of the budget. It was a good budget totally wasted which makes it feel worst.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:34:38 GMT
The only good thing is we will be down by next Saturday and the kids could get some games like Sinclair did. We may as well settle contracts now and look to play a few youngesters.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:33:35 GMT
The only good thing is we will be down by next Saturday and the kids could get some games like Sinclair did.
We may as well settle contracts now and look to a few youngesters.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:30:35 GMT
We made the job impossible by signing millions of mids / defenders. If we didn't sign at least 5 additionals and used that money for 2 extra strikers. I believe we would be outside bottom 8.
It was a crazy recruitment which was self inflicted. No club would ever make a simple mistake like this again..
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 17, 2021 13:24:56 GMT
After watching every game this season , other than Nicholson and Jakola I hope never to see any of these jokers again next season agreed Sadly I think a bid will be put in for Nicholson and Anssi may reflect at his age whether he wants to play in basement division.
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