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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2023 12:49:04 GMT
Whatever decision was made over the ground, redeveloped Mem, new build somewhere else, FM etc there would be people who liked it and those who didn’t for whatever reason. I’ve no idea if I’m being hoodwinked or not by the new owners but listening to them talk about the ground was the most realistic I’ve heard owners talk about a new ground. They are working to a plan it appears with a realism to make it happen. I liked Wael and what he did but his approach to a new ground at the start in ‘16 when he said money would not be a problem was so way off being the reality, though it made the fans believe something would happen. It didn’t and when plan A didn’t work over the UWE (August 17) we had talk but nothing else. Wael panicked into a reveal about the FM in August 20 before the Blackpool match that it could be within two years or something like that but then absolute silence for the next two years or more. Did anyone really believe it was anything other than dreams and a few scrollings on a fag packet?
It’s a real shame in a way that we won’t be getting a new, shiny ground similar to the videos and artists impressions we saw up to the UWE (nothing tangible since) but his plan to develop the Mem side by side is realistic and one they are now going for. Well done them for actually making a plan. The detail about what each stand will look like will I presume evolve as the plans move on,stand by stand.
And of course ‘I’ll believe it when I’m sitting in it’ but at this point in time it sounds the best we can achieve. Fingers crossed.🤞🏽
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2023 12:16:07 GMT
I'd rather have Wee Jock McPlop' the lavatory attendant from Aberdeen over Holden! Good shout. I presume he has a win % of 44% in the Championship and 37% in League 1 as well. Seriously, not saying we should appoint Holden but his figures aren’t as bad as others are making out. As for the 1982Ltd connections we’d have been bu****** this last week without a goals from a certain person. Let’s go through a process and appoint the best candidate whoever it is. (And I don’t think it will be Holden) UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 30, 2023 20:41:33 GMT
Not being ITK I’ve not got a scooby doo as to who we will appoint. I think we look at managers with a strong coaching background even if that goes against what our owner indicated. It may even be someone we don’t know very well. I hope it won’t be Cotterill just because I think his football would be rubbish and going on his Shrewsbury stint his football will bore me to death and we’ll not win many matches.
But who knows, we may be just the right fit for people like the Cowleys, who’ve done well wherever they’ve been (even Pompey imo). Play direct football perhaps but they’ve done well in League 1 and helped Huddersfield survive in the Championship when it had looked impossible. They tick a few of the owners boxes.
And Gerry Francis is living proof that past records (at Exeter) are never necessarily a good indication of future success. So I’m sure there will be managers out there who may just fit in with us. Never any guarantees with any appointments. And Mangan and Whelan etc. have done ok in the matches they’ve be in charge of so why not give them some games to see how they do? (Obviously if they want to do it.)
Fingers crossed.🤞🏽
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 30, 2023 19:29:30 GMT
He’s a guy who moans at referees, no different to Alex Ferguson, Mourinho and Barton. Why reference his appearance? One of my friends who is a Gashead is overweight, salt of the earth bloke. He’s been told about his blood pressure, trying his best to watch his weight, actually many on here know him, he’s a big character around the club. Nobody said you can't be a decent fat bloke, but if you're fat you're fat. One of the hardest working people I work with is the most overweight because he doesn't look after himself well enough. We seem too scared to call a spade a spade these days. Perhaps but it’s also a good thing to think before you say something that may cause offence about personal appearances. GGMI, I’m sure you’ll bring your children up to be polite, think before they say something and try not to offend people or make people uncomfortable by what they say or what they do. ‘Calling a spade a spade’ is an easy-get-out for some people to excuse their bad manners. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 30, 2023 19:18:15 GMT
I agree wholeheartedly about the descriptions of that rag, the Sun. But in reality that is just a deflection from the points made about Barton. They are all true are they not? So I ask again, what on earth possessed the owners of the club to allow such a person be associated with us. Given the points made, what on earth possessed people to start a petition to reinstate him. Good riddance. Oldie I often agree with you but I suspect if you were to look at any charge sheet, then those of The Sun outweigh those of JB. What they did over the Millie Dowler and Hillsborough reports and they still think they have a right to take any moral high ground. I’d say the Barton stuff is the deflection away from their ‘crimes’. Anyway he’s gone and we all move on. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 30, 2023 9:07:36 GMT
The irony of the Scum newspaper labelling anyone a nasty piece of work though Was thinking exactly the same! Spot on. The Sun …..blimey. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 29, 2023 23:35:10 GMT
A keeper in the Welsh Central League in the days before the Welsh Premier came about. Lots of semi pro teams in the league, Aberystwyth, Newtown in the mid 70s. They used to love roughing me up most weeks!!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 29, 2023 23:29:43 GMT
No way Kevin Maher will get mentioned but has achieved a minor miracle at Southend. He and his players have often not been paid, had a large points deduction at the start of the season, fan unrest, only has a 15 man squad, with some of the younger coaches being forced back into getting registered as players so they can sit in the bench for emergencies, had to sell a potential star teenager, and now sit in mid table. Gillingham fans say they have approached Southend for Kevin but they turned Gillingham down and wouldn’t let them speak to him. I presume for the same reasons you’ve mentioned, he’s done a great job there. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 29, 2023 18:03:40 GMT
Reckon the job at Trashton is incredibly unattractive - aim to win promotion to PL with little investment and up against any number of big and big spending clubs. Anyone who takes it is on a hiding to nothing. In contrast, imo our job is much more attractive - decent investment and more realistic chance of promotion sooner. Mmm. I don’t think so. No real comparison between the two. We are an attractive option in League 1 and they are an attractive option in the Championship. Whatever your views about them they are a stable club with a strong structure owned by someone who’s invested heavily over the years. That may have changed recently but both clubs have enormous potential but in different ways and they have a ready-made infrastructure whereas we’ve got further to go. The clubs will be shopping for new managers in different places I think. Unless I’m going to be shocked by who we appoint. Whoever either club appoints will be unveiled as the first choice candidate who aligns themselves with the club values. (Ha!) 😉 UTG! ps. That all being said they are only a bad season away from us and we are only a good season away from them. And if those two things happened in the same season we’d overtake them. 😉
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 28, 2023 23:29:07 GMT
When they say the south end of the east stand is next, does that mean extracting the section of stand that currently sits within the south stand and plonking it on the away terrace? I’m totally underwhelmed by anything that’s not a wholesale redevelopment of the mem (which is not my preferred location, but then you’ll never please everyone). Even something done in stages so that ultimately it looks like one complete stadium. All I can picture from this info is lots of makeshift stands similar to those we’ve seen dotted around the ground previously. To quote Paul Buckle, I feel we’re being told to lower our expectations… It's a disgrace, if this is what it is then I am sorry that club will get what they deserve. Floating around in league 1 forever. It is becoming worrying that we do not have the money to build a modern stadium with a decent capacity. People will say Bournemouth don't have a huge stadium. But they are actually looking at building a new ground, whilst their owners fund premiership football. I am genuinely concerned we've been sold down a river of mediocrity. But like us they’ve been looking at it for a long time, since the 2010s. But it’s been all looking, and they’ve probably spent less time than us on any new ground. With AFCB the new owner, Foley, looks more likely to turn the ‘looking’ into something more concrete ( excuse the pun) than those before. Now he does have ambition and the money and inclination to back it up. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 28, 2023 22:57:22 GMT
Looks like Holloway and Colin are ruled out after the comments from the new owner. Too old. Not sure either would want the job anyway. That also probably deals with Cotterill as well. Bit weathered. And DC. No championship experience. So we need a young manager with a track record of success, with experience in L1, and the Championship, and maybe also some time in the Premier League. Oh and willing to join Bristol Rovers. I admire the ethos and ambition but not sure if we'll see a queue of these youthful wunderkinds outside Hussain AlSaeed's office. Indeed, I’m not sure any single person would tick all those boxes. If they had all those qualities and they were young then I’m not sure they be looking to join us. However I thought he said all the right things about the search for a new manager as well as being more factual and telling us more about the ‘new’ ground in 15 minutes than Wael has said in 7 years. And I didn’t take from the interview that Mangan and Co were out of the picture as some did. When asked outright I got the impression if they were to do well in the next 3 games then they would be considered. I also liked what he said about employees being employed by the club as part of the clubs infrastructure and not the managers mates. However after so many false starts in my 50+ years of supporting I’m definitely in the ‘I’ll believe it when I’m sitting in it’ camp. But tbf this does sound a more achievable project and by re-developing the Mem, a new site does not need to be found. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 28, 2023 20:42:40 GMT
I do wish the super fans would be a little more sympathetic to the casuals. Pretty sure GGMI was a long time ST holder who has recently started a new family. Not everyone is able to get to every game for a lot of different reasons. Would be lovely if we could stop attacking one another for a bit. This is spot on. Nothing to do with Joey Barton why I stopped going. I love Rovers but you can be so caught in it sometimes that you forget there is a life outside of the club we all love. I made the conscious decision to give up my season ticket 4 years ago when having my first born. (I have another since). I live the other side of Bristol, and wanted to make sure I invest as much energy, time and effort into my children as possible so they can be the best they can be. I still watch on ifollow etc and do want to get to a game soon but if I can't then so be it. Bristol Rovers will always be a part of my life, but they are just that now, a part. Don't worry my girls will be brought up the right way to be Gasheads, I don't think they will quite reach the elite super status but they will be fans. Maybe one day I will get a season ticket again but I can't see it in the near future. UTG! ❤️ Well said GGMI. And there’s no need to explain your reasons why its difficult to go. Esp when starting a family. And as you know family comes first, second and third everytime. Good for you. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 28, 2023 20:03:36 GMT
“Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope.” Ah. We’re getting close to Halloween so I can understand why you’ve been reminded of this. 😉 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 27, 2023 20:16:30 GMT
7666 with 388 away.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 27, 2023 20:12:31 GMT
Bournemouth v Burnley. 1-1 Hull v P N E. 1-0 Watford v Millwall. 2-0 Blackpool v Posh. 2-1 Gas v Northampton. 2-0 Wigan v Shrewsbury. 2-1 Barrow v Salford. 1-2 Notts Co v Wrexham. 2-0 Boreham v Southend. 1-1 Brackley v South Shields. 1-2 Southport v Banbury. 1-1 Welling v Chippenham. 1-1
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 22:39:15 GMT
The back room staff remain but for how long? They are all closely linked with JB but it was only JB that was sacked. Had Rovers sacked his acolytes I suppose the club would have had to pay them up. If they choose to resign and follow JB that will be up to them but Rovers wouldn’t be liable. Would they? Depends I suppose on the fine print in their contracts. UTG! Well if they’d sacked them all today there’d be nobody to take Saturdays game! A new coach/manager usually wants their own team in place. A new coach may well bring their own team in if that is the route we go down. Then JBs team will have to be paid up. My point was that the owners would obviously want to keep any contract terminations to a minimum and if people do go they will go by resigning and therefore not requiring the club to pay up their contracts. But as I said I guess it depends on their individual contracts. I don’t know but a sacking on a Thursday must be pretty unusual insofar as it must make things more difficult in relation to the Saturday match. With that in mind perhaps Andy M has just agreed to do it for a limited time. I’ve no idea and I bet we won’t get told, it will just happen. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:54:58 GMT
I was 50/50 if I'm honest. I would probably have given him a few more games but if you look at our points return in 2023 and some of our performances, I can see why they've made the decision. Lincoln sacked their manager recently and are 5 points better off than us. Maybe if JB had been less outspoken - I could have worded that very differently - he may have been given more time. As I say, I can't decide whether it's a good move or not. I guess only time will tell. Good post. I’d have given BG a a few more games back along and also Tis so I’d have given JB a few games as well. Amongst all the stuff in the last two and a half years once Wael had appointed such a divisive character it was unlikely that Wael would have got rid of him for anything other than results. But once he sold his majority to someone else then that dynamic was liable to change and it has done, today. BG lost his job after the Fleetwood match, Tis after the Accrington away match and JB has after the Stevenage result. We rescued a point with a worldie but the performance was lethargic and his post match comments were not accepted by the new owners in the way Wael always did. So whilst I would have given him a few more matches the owners didn’t and in the end my views are largely unimportant but theirs are vital. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:35:50 GMT
Pretty sure this only happened because I officially joined the Barton out club after Tuesdays game. I hold a lot of sway in the boardroom. 😉 Excellent! Now you’re itk can you tell us who’s coming in. 😉 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:29:46 GMT
Poor timing, joeys players, team not exactly full of the type of player ready to battle either. Could end very badly Perhaps but I’m pretty sure they weren’t playing for him on Tuesday night. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:04:31 GMT
Strange all the back room staff remain, think there is more to this then results. I can’t imagine that’ll be a long term thing. The back room staff remain but for how long? They are all closely linked with JB but it was only JB that was sacked. Had Rovers sacked his acolytes I suppose the club would have had to pay them up. If they choose to resign and follow JB that will be up to them but Rovers wouldn’t be liable. Would they? Depends I suppose on the fine print in their contracts. UTG!
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