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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 20:57:37 GMT
And whatever we all think about JB there’s no doubt the quality of loanees was far higher than anything we had seen in the 4/5 years before that. Managers seemed happy to trust the club with some of their best youngsters knowing that JB would ‘look after’ them. The flip side was of course that we may have become too dependent on these loans instead of giving our own youngsters a chance or even avoided getting permanent players who would belong to us. UTG! And yet here we are, 3 years later, basically in the same place and looking down both barrels of another relegation battle. Yes we are and at some cost I would imagine. Position in the table similar I agree but I’m not sure that the squad is as bad as it was in ‘21. I think we will finish than we are at the moment because we are a better team and squad and we can score goals but in the end time will tell if I’m right. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 20:52:55 GMT
Well wasn't expecting that. Joey Barton has been sacked. Where do we go from here? Yes I get that but he wasn’t unsackable was he? It’s football and surprising sackings have occurred a few times in the past month. Neil Harris at Gillingham, Rowett at Millwall, Eustace at Birmingham and even Kennedy, the Lincoln manager going were all surprises not based on results. More a case of the owners showing they can do what they like, changing direction, style of football, calling players out publicly or whatever. Football is strange. Watching the Stevenage match looked, to me, that JB and the team were lethargic as if something had happened. So in the end I thought that something was building up. So yes, like you, I am surprised but in a way not really. He did 2 and a half years as manager, which is well above average. It’s been many years since the days of Bert Tann and having a manager for over 20 years. Will be interesting to see the back story of this which comes out in the next week or so. Presumably the EP will now be talking again to the club with JB gone so we should learn more. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 20:22:54 GMT
What like when we employed Barton? Not exactly a proven manager... But a manager who had excellent contacts at a good few premier league clubs ,do you think any of the names touted have that and can persuade Premier league Mgrs to part with their players to " little old Bristol Rovers".? And whatever we all think about JB there’s no doubt the quality of loanees was far higher than anything we had seen in the 4/5 years before that. Managers seemed happy to trust the club with some of their best youngsters knowing that JB would ‘look after’ them. The flip side was of course that we may have become too dependent on these loans instead of giving our own youngsters a chance or even avoided getting permanent players who would belong to us. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 19:33:12 GMT
Would not be surprised to see the Cowley Brothers come in … Not my first choice … Yes, although their football is very different than what we’ve been used to the Cowleys could be a good choice. Istr all their clubs spoke highly of them, their work ethic and how they galvanised and committed to their communities. May be a very good fit. Wouldn’t be surprised if the choice results in someone most may not have heard of. Not all these coaches will be like BG. Ipswich and Blackpool appointed very effective coaches few had heard of. Also perhaps Pete Wild currently at Barrow may be considered. Plays good football and has over-achieved at Barrow playing good football. As ever time will tell though it will be interesting to see what the process will be given we have no DOF or really anyone with experience of appointing a manager. I hope they seek some advice from ‘football people’. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 19:03:44 GMT
Whoever it is let’s hope they break this ruddy merry go round this club has been going through practically it’s entire existence 🙄 Certainly over the past twenty or so years. But pretty sure Bert Tann until his retirement in 72 had been the second or third longest serving manager in British football after Sir Matt B and Scott Symon at Rangers in the 50s and 60s and during this time Rovers were the epitome of stability. But I realise the point you’re making recently, last 40 years. Appoint the best candidate and keep your fingers crossed. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 18:55:13 GMT
Next Manager Odds Karl Robinson Previous Team: Oxford United Departed: 26.02.23 4/1 Danny Cowley Previous Team: Portsmouth Departed: 02.01.23 6/1 Steve Cotterill Previous Team: Shrewsbury Town Departed: 06.06.23 8/1 Leam Richardson Previous Team: Wigan Athletic Departed: 10.11.22 8/1 Nathan Jones Previous Team: Southampton Departed: 12.02.23 8/1 Lee Bowyer Previous Team: Birmingham City Departed: 02.07.22 10/1 David Artell Previous Team: Crewe Alexandra Departed: 11.04.22 12/1 Dean Holden Previous Team: Charlton Athletic Departed: 27.08.23 12/1 Andy Mangan 12/1 Graham Alexander Previous Team: Milton Keynes Dons Departed: 16.10.23 14/1 Ian Holloway Previous Team: Grimsby Town Departed: 23.12.20 14/1 Gary Bowyer Previous Team: Dundee Departed: 10.05.23 16/1 Mark Cooper Current Team: Yeovil Town Appointed: 28.10.22 16/1 Neil Harris Previous Team: Gillingham Departed: 05.10.23 16/1 Neil Warnock Previous Team: Huddersfield Town Departed: 20.09.23 16/1 Ben Garner 😱 Previous Team: Colchester United Departed: 21.10.23 16/1 Blimey that’s a depressing lot. On some of them I’d question the owners sanity if they were appointed. ☹️☹️☹️ UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 25, 2023 8:05:14 GMT
Missed the game today as on holiday and was going to watch on I follow but my daughter has had a bad stomach bug and we’ve spent the last 24 hours in hospital. Sounds awful reading this other than our goal but a point v a team that plays a very effective league 1 style game isn’t bad I suppose and as long as we win on Saturday we’ll be up around mid table with 4 wins, a draw and 3 defeats from last 7 which wouldn’t be too bad considering the awful slow paced rubbish Barton has us playing the majority of the time. Imagine what we could do if we played a higher tempo game every week like we have done in spells this season. Big game Saturday , no doubt about it the pressure is on Barton and more and more will begin to turn on him if we don’t win what is seen as pretty much a must win game to keep us away from the bottom 4 for now. Back to clearing out buckets of sick and trying to get my daughter fit for a flight home tomorrow ( we’ll be lucky) puts things in to perspective, it’s only football. UTG Good luck!! As you say, only football. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 22:49:15 GMT
I should have added I hope you’re correct. 👍
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 22:43:02 GMT
I’ve got to be honest I’ve never liked Barton for off the pitch reasons but I still don’t think there’s footballing merit to get rid of him yet. Injuries are hampering us and we don’t quite have the cutting edge up front to convert the chances we are creating. This has probably damaged our confidence, resulting in a sub par performance tonight. We’ve got home games coming up and a few games in hand. Marquis and Hunt will hopefully be back from injury, Woods will return from his suspension, which will improve the squad massively. Maybe Barton will give Belly another chance to redeem himself as well. Re-assess closer to January, budgets and expectations are high for this season so clearly being 16th in the league won’t be acceptable by then, but there is still plenty of this season left to turn things around. Yes, that’s about where I am. But more performances like tonight’s and he’ll be lucky to survive. JB is fortunate that Wael or whoever are more tolerant than other owners. It reads as if the ex-Lincoln boss was sacked for singling out players publicly, something JB has done on a few occasions. I’ve always thought results will determine JBs future and the equaliser will have given him a bit more time, but only a bit. The next game will be very important. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 22:32:36 GMT
I just don’t see how anyone can truly believe that this is a manager who’s going to take us to the top ends of the division. If anything instead of getting better we are on a steady decline and getting worse, this has been the case for 10 months now. I think we have an okay squad but I don’t think it’s as good as we have been led to believe but it’s better than where we are after 13 games.I’m Funnily enough, looks like the players are giving less since LT was ceremoniously thrown under the bus (again). Wouldn't be surprised if the players have had enough of him. That’s a good point RD. Watching tonight I thought the players looked lethargic, almost as if they had no confidence that they could win. Almost as if they weren’t listening to him. They may be just completely p***** off with him. I hadn’t linked that with how he treated Luke Thomas….again. You may well be right. Whatever, everything seemed to be meh tonight, the team, the dugout, even the celebration with the goal. A big few games coming up. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 22:24:35 GMT
Owners no where to be seen either.... I can only hope they are doing a proper root and branch review of the club and will soon put an advert out for a new driver and conductor UTG Another one? UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 22:15:50 GMT
FWIW: -Stevenage came with a plan and using the long ball up caused us some problems. I thought we dealt with most of them but they got some good crosses into the box. -But although he played well it’s worrying that Taylor (was it Taylor?) collided with Cox for their goal after his slip against Oxford for their first goal. He’s good but he’s also cost us goals recently. He would still be my first pick in defence though. -Finley did some good things but he’s got much slower over the past year and his natural reaction is to foul so another yellow card tonight. He’s not going to be the first choice when all are available. Not good enough for a top table team. -Brown flatters to deceive and has some good touches but he never threatened the keeper. Although tbf no one threatened the keeper, I can’t remember him making a save from anyone. -Collins seemed to have lost his confidence. He pinged some good passes around but it’s all a bit meh… He seems to have lost his spark. - But it was a memorable goal from Martin. Well done and showed his quick mind and good touch. Well done.
Even after a great goal, everything seemed a bit stilted, even the celebrations. I’m just a bit surprised that JB must have known how Stevenage would play yet he seems unable to get the team to do something different. Why not Sinclair instead of Gibbons? Seemed a strange decision. It’s the first time I’ve watched and thought the players seemed lethargic, almost as if they know if they go behind they have no answers. I hope JB isnt losing them. It’s still all very close in the middle of League 1 with some winnable games coming up. JB needs some wins.
Saturday now becomes very important and it will be obvious how Northampton will set up. An early goal will be important, in a game against an opponent with something to prove I think.
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2023 17:27:33 GMT
Watched the 2-2 on youtube between Chelmsford and Whitby and they have some very skilfull nippy young players - nonleague has changed since when i was a lad. Ironically the teams who mainly caused upsets used to defend in bulk and just hot the League club on the counter so it will suit us if they try and outplay us They have a player called Bradley Fewster. I’m pretty sure he was one of pirates’s Wishlist a few years ago. Perhaps pirate will have noticed as well. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 23, 2023 22:00:03 GMT
7444 with 222 from Stevenage.
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 21:23:51 GMT
Think this is the last time we see him as a football league manager. Yes. Now that he’s failed at Colchester I’m not sure there’s a way back for him in the EFL and he’ll end up on the London/Home Counties non league circuit. 3 fails out of 4 managing posts isn’t the best look. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 21:07:34 GMT
Maybe like Trolls someone may work out he's a very good coach but not a manager. Garner made Trolls look like Pep! UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 21:05:50 GMT
Wow!! Sign him up.
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 21:03:37 GMT
Good idea, best not to mention it. 👍
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 10:43:48 GMT
The Peterborough, Oxford and Burton games were identical in how we started the games bar Burton we scored first. In the other two we started ever so well, Peterborough were under the clash for the first 20 mins, Oxford should have been losing……..but in all cases, the opposition managers work us out, they tactically outsmart Barton and he doesn’t know what to do to change it. It’s the usual throw on the subs stuff, we don’t come back and win games that often when losing. Stubborn, we are not Man City, he won’t change his principles, he openly laughs at managers how they set up their teams, he said it about Ainsworth at Wycombe, Joey you have never ever got us in 6th place for one game since you have been here?!Roadman, I’m no supporter of JB but until he’s not our manager I’ll always support the BRFC manager. I’ve agreed with much you’ve said Roadman and can respect your views esp you seeing a good many games, but let’s not lose accuracy when criticising people. I believe when we beat Oxford last August with a Marquis goal we went top of the table, albeit it being a lunchtime kick off. the gist of what you’ve said I agree with. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 22, 2023 8:37:01 GMT
I certainly wouldn't get rid now because we're not actually in trouble yet and there's time to turn it around. But it's underwhelming so far and the pretty football isn't delivering. The alleged budget is not reflected in the league position. On the issue of posters who say 'and replace him with who?', followed no doubt by a smirk and a wise satisfied shrug of the shoulders, that's a bit like saying nobody in life should ever lose their job unless you have a replacement lined up already. Maybe the mysterious silent new owners are already putting out feelers? They certainly haven't backed him publicly or said he's the man they see as right for the job, as Wael did. But they don't say anything so nothing to be read into that, I suppose.Exactly, they don’t say anything about anything. Who knows? And in the end it’s them who will determine when anything happens. If anything does. UTG!
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