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Post by bluestone on Sept 24, 2018 13:57:12 GMT
Blimey, I didn't expect this thread would go to 30+ pages!
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Post by bluestone on Sept 24, 2018 9:42:03 GMT
I know he's with us to the end of the season but we should make a move for Bonham in Jan if we can.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 23, 2018 17:48:18 GMT
Should be assigned as personal Mentors to Rodman and Payne this week so they fully understand this is the Gas way and not Shrewsbury’s way of wearing the shirt Yeah, I have to say the contrast between the rovers side that turned up yesterday and on Tuesday night to the one we have seen in most of the other games this season is astounding. Payne, Rodman and Upson need to shift up a couple of gears if they are going to remain playing for the gas.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 23, 2018 17:33:41 GMT
For now yes but I believe the club have said that is just for a short time until everyone gets used to them at which point they will no longer be manned. The same club who are apparently in talks to sell the stadium to a property developer? The only reason we've got electronic card readers is it down to being an EFL requirement this season 8 Turnstiles 8.1 These must be of the automatic revolving type fitted with counting facilities and a computerised turnstile monitoring system. www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-1---membership-criteria-regulation-8/ How are the rumours of a takeover relevant to my comments about the club having recently made improvements to the Mem? Surely if anything this would be a reason for them not to do anything.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 23, 2018 14:39:32 GMT
For now yes but I believe the club have said that is just for a short time until everyone gets used to them at which point they will no longer be manned. They will need new turn styles if that is the case. Wonder if I could buy one of the old ones, for when my Missus' relations come round Yeah, it certanly would make it more difficult for them to get in.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 23, 2018 14:33:34 GMT
Well if the owners were to take that attitude with everthing then the club may as well have not bothered with: Upgraded bars Upgraded shop Electronic turnstilesNew run out canopy New pitch New screen / scoreboard (when it arrives) Of course you are right it would be much better if we just let the place rot and not change or improve anything so in 7 years time we can moan even more. I beg to differ, they are card readers, a man still has to push down on the pedal to allow the turn style, 21st technology meets 19th century technology For now yes but I believe the club have said that is just for a short time until everyone gets used to them at which point they will no longer be manned.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 23, 2018 10:12:05 GMT
Any opinions from people actually sat in it? Good views? Any atmosphere? I sat in it yesterday. Re: Atmosphere. Having transferred from the SW stand where I sat last season, I really enjoyed being next to the Thatchers end where the majority of the noise in the ground is generated. There was plenty in the stand including me and my boy joining in with the singing. So for me the atmosphere was a massive improvement and that is when the new stand was half empty, it should be even better when full. Re: Views. It is a shame that they were unable to avoid or reduce the number of roof support posts at the front as they do interrupt the view somewhat. It's not a huge problem as you can just shift around a bit to maintain your view of the action but this is something that would have been relatively easy to avoid by using a truss / beam along the front. In the grand scheme of things I can't imagine that would have added a significant amount of cost to the project and the benefits would have been worth it. I sat at the top about midway along and one thing that was a bit frustrating was that when the action was up in the South East corner you struggled to see what was going on as your line of sight is interrupted by the people sat to your left. As I was at the back of the stand I was able to stand up and could then see over their heads but to me this suggests the stand should have been installed a couple of metres further back. Edit: One more small thing, it was nice to be able to watch the players warm up before the game and see them coming out of the tunnel, I felt like I was a bit more connected with what was going on, you know in the heart of the action.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 21:17:45 GMT
That's the old score board isn't it? It's not that old. Put there since Al Qadi's have been here. Yes but it's not the one I was referring to in my post, I'm taking about the new one that will be installed at some point in October.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:40:43 GMT
Well if the owners were to take that attitude with everthing then the club may as well have not bothered with: Upgraded bars Upgraded shop Electronic turnstiles New run out canopy New pitch New screen / scoreboard (when it arrives) Of course you are right it would be much better if we just let the place rot and not change or improve anything so in 7 years time we can moan even more. The scoreboard where the 3 didn't work! 😂 not sure if the other numbers didn't work too, just noticed after we scored 3 only the top half was there) That's the old score board isn't it?
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:39:28 GMT
Yeah I do see your point but you know DC he likes to change things so I'd be surprised if he keeps the same for the next game / project ;-) Yeah he’s bound to change it but he can do what he likes he knows best. His record speaks for itself and I trust him to give us another decent season comparative to our budget and facilities. The reason for that ? He always has. UTG Yeah, like most fans when I saw the team sheet before today's game my heart sank a bit and I thought we were in for another really difficult game and a very close result but DC's selection did perform very well. The positive thing for me is that we have got a decent squad when everyone's fit so we should be fine. We have still to see Sercombe return, Parts is on his way back and Marcus said in the post match interview that Holmes Dennis is not far away now. UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:27:39 GMT
Well as it happens I work in design and I for one am struggling to see where else they could have put it given the constraints of the existing ground and that they probably wanted to spend the minimum possible to achieve the required objective of adding seating for families. Of course if money and time was no object they could have designed a bigger new permanent stand to replace one of the other temporary stands or even build above the Thatchers terrace but then that would require planning, take a lot longer and need a significant amount more money. It's a cheap temporary solution and it looks like one but why should we really care, were not going to win any architecture awards for the Mem either with it or without it. If Bristol Rovers is still here in 7 years time I'll bet that stand is too. Well if the owners were to take that attitude with everthing then the club may as well have not bothered with: Upgraded bars Upgraded shop Electronic turnstiles New run out canopy New pitch New screen / scoreboard (when it arrives) Of course you are right it would be much better if we just let the place rot and not change or improve anything so in 7 years time we can moan even more.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:17:52 GMT
I think Reilly and AJ should start and Nichols can come on as a sub if necessary. I'm not a Nichols hater btw, just feel he's had an awful lot of chances and it's time to start each game with the best players on the pitch. I said before today’s game I’d start Reilly and Jakubiak but as we scored 3 from open play I think I’d stick with today’s two. Reilly has a poacher instinct and Nichols can pass the ball so could be a good partnership. Most goals we’ve scored this season so keep the attack let them gel. Yeah I do see your point but you know DC he likes to change things so I'd be surprised if he keeps the same for the next game / project ;-)
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:13:35 GMT
It seems to me that the new Family Stand and the replacement SW Stand are of virtually the same design and definately the same construction so I have a genuine question to those who hate the new stand so much... Why all the fuss about this new stand when there was no such outrage when the South West Stand was put up? its taken away terracing for a start, looks sh**, could have been put some where else if your a designer Well as it happens I work in design and I for one am struggling to see where else they could have put it given the constraints of the existing ground and that they probably wanted to spend the minimum possible to achieve the required objective of adding seating for families. Of course if money and time was no object they could have designed a bigger new permanent stand to replace one of the other temporary stands or even build above the Thatchers terrace but then that would require planning, take a lot longer and need a significant amount more money. It's a cheap temporary solution and it looks like one but why should we really care, were not going to win any architecture awards for the Mem either with it or without it.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 20:02:20 GMT
It seems to me that the new Family Stand and the replacement SW Stand are of virtually the same design and definately the same construction so I have a genuine question to those who hate the new stand so much... Why all the fuss about this new stand when there was no such outrage when the South West Stand was put up? Maybe because it 'filled up' an empty corner, is further away from the visual effect of the masses and didn't impact on other supporters. OK, look, I can understand some fans who have been displaced from their usual spot might be within their rights to be a little upset but the fact is that most of the objections are on the ground of aesthetics and let's be honest the new stand looks exactly the same as the one in the SW corner which nobody appears to give a toss about. It's not as if the Mem was the finest example of stadium architecture before the new stand turned up is it? I just don't get the OTT outrage tbh and it feels to me like people are just enjoying another opportunity to slate the club and the owners.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 19:54:46 GMT
I think he deserves our support, or is he going to be the next player everyone slags off? He was poor when he came on but how can Slagging him off help his confidence. A bollocking is what he deserves after his lack of effort today. The first 8 balls to him were won by defenders without him making any effort to win those challenges . I know because after the third I started counting. He won his 9th header , it was a free header and he headed it straight to a Coventry player. Looks a stone heavier than he did 6 weeks ago in his first game and showed about as much effort as Nichols did last season. DC got it pretty much spot on today but bringing Payne on turned out wrong but I don’t blame DC for that I blame the player his lack of effort was shocking. Reilly and Nichols to start again next game AJ to replace one of them as or when needed. Payne to play -23 and think about what he needs to put in if he wants to make it here. Good performance by most today though and feels so great to get the three points. Any coincidence that we’ve won our last two and Sinclairs back ? That attitude has to rub off and I’d imagine his team mates look at him and think I’ve got to make more effort here because he’s making me look sh**. I think Reilly and AJ should start and Nichols can come on as a sub if necessary. I'm not a Nichols hater btw, just feel he's had an awful lot of chances and it's time to start each game with the best players on the pitch.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 19:47:49 GMT
It seems to me that the new Family Stand and the replacement SW Stand are of virtually the same design and definately the same construction so I have a genuine question to those who hate the new stand so much...
Why all the fuss about this new stand when there was no such outrage when the South West Stand was put up?
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 11:04:03 GMT
Jakubiak simply has to start upfront with Payne today. Nicholls has had enough chances and this is a must win game. I would love to see Sinclair start as well but playing behind the front two and harassing the defenders. Let's take the game to Coventry from the start and put them on the back foot. Gas 2-1 win. Agree with this. Only thing for me is whether Lines should come in for Upson, although to be fair Upson played well on Tuesday night. Definitely should be Payne and AJ up front, I'm a big fan of DC but will be fuming if he hands another start to Nichols. I really think he needs to show the players that if they don't perform they will be dropped, it will soon make them work their balls off to win back the shirt. I reckon we can win this today. I'm going 2-1 with AJ and Payne both on the score sheet UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 7:53:46 GMT
I'm embarrassed by the number of gasheads who are so easily embarrassed.
Things change all the time, things that you like don't always remain, but sometimes new things come along that you didn't have before and you come to enjoy them.
The benefits said "monthly retail offers". Now I don't know what this could entail but for all we know it might include something new that will be better than a one off voucher that once used is gone.
Please, please, please can people just cut the club some slack?
All I hear at the moment is "it's sooooo embarrassing" with completely OTT outrage.
They are changing things, mixing it up, trying new ideas. Some things may go well, others not but I'm pretty sure that the Gorringe knows what he is doing and will continue to adapt / modify plans to suit customer feedback once the season is over.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 7:26:02 GMT
BLUESTONE wrote:moved down closer to the pitch but so what? So what is that 600 or so fans that normally stand in that area will now try to squeeze into what is left of the terrace which I dont think can accommodate 600 fans in the space that remains. That to me is the issue, its all about fan safety, those of us that prefer to stand, MAY have no place to stand, or worse still be placed at risk. That is the issue. As someone said it's quite endeering all the quirky things that happen at Rovers, but every job that has been touted for the last closed season has gone wrong in some way or another.(apart from the pitch). That aspect is certainly not endeering, it is completely amateurish, and the total opposite of what WAQ is expecting by employing so many more professional people, that is what I see embarrising. Rant over. apologies for the opening line, but on a mobile you can't highlight selected areas of text in bold, so had to write out the bit I wanted., EDIT: of course those fans displaced may also be season ticket holders, not a good way to treat your core supporters. Fan safety? I really think you should give the club a bit more credit than that. There's no way BRFC will put fans safety at risk. They're not just going to throw up the new stand without going through the required safety checks to ensure that the remaining area can accommodate the required number of fans safely. There will be a minimum floor area required per fan / ticket sold. I suspect they will have reduced the number of tickets available for sale in the East Terrace to take account of the reduced area and they will have checked all ST holders can be accommodated in the area. To suggest the club are acting in a negligent manner by not considering fan safety is way of the mark imo. Guess we will find out whether they have acted professionally later today won't we.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 22, 2018 7:12:53 GMT
The club have said it, they've sent an email to all ST holders for that stand. Why do they have to relay every single detail of what's going on to you? Because that is the world we live in nowadays. People expect information and to be treated with respect. I don’t want every detail, but this has obviously been a cock up and it would come across better if the club admitted it in a professional manner. It’s managing the PR which we are abysmal at. What if the club had sold 300 season tickets in that stand (as originally planned) and yet it arrives at 197 capacity. How would that work or gloss over the issue that the season ticket holders have been told so it’s alright? Sorry but how on earth is the club not informing you about changes to their plans, which they are entitled to do by the way, a lack of respect? I assume you are a customer not a shareholder, and a customer who has not bought a ST in said stand where as I am a customer who had bought a ST in said stand and they have informed me. This seems to me to be appropriate and correct. If the club had sold 300 ST's for the stand then they may have had to come up with a different alternative plan but as it is they didn't. That is a hypothetical question that is not worthy of a more detailed response. The bottom line is that the club are entitled to do whatever they want with to their ground. Anything they do should be communicated to the appropriate stakeholders which in this case would be those affected by the change. The club appears to have done this so they have not acted improperly or unprofessionally in any way imo.
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