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Post by bluestone on Jan 30, 2018 22:11:39 GMT
Having accommodation in a football stadium makes me cringe, a Hotel yes but not accommodation. Just my opinion though 👍🏻 I know, I wouldn't want to live in one but there are other stadium redevelopments where it has been done so it would be feasible and student accommodation was very much part of the last mem redevelopment proposals that got planning approval.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 30, 2018 21:14:52 GMT
Any ideas ? I was thinking perhaps putting Greyhound track around pitch and bringing racing back, could earn a few bob with bar takings food etc. Not for me, that would mean the stands would be further away from the pitch which would affect the spectator experience and atmosphere, also space is at a premium on the site so we need the stadium to be quite compact imo. I think the plan is for it to be a community stadium so it could include these sorts of facilities, all of which could raise revenue for the club when the stadium is not use on a match day: - Conference rooms / meeting rooms - Gymnasium / Fitness Studio - Business centre - Library / IT hub - Climbing centre - Small business units for short term rent by tech start up companies - Retail units (shops / restaurants / bar ) coffee shop) - Bike rental / repair centre - Hair / beauty salon There's also the possibility that it could incorporate housing or student accommodation and a hotel which were previously included with the last development proposal that secured planning consent. I think there is a huge amount of potential with this project given its location and a lot of the items listed above would benefit the local community which would really help gain support during the planning process, it could be a win win situation imo.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 30, 2018 20:26:46 GMT
We signed some good players in the summer , and the summer before that and the summer before that. Back to back promotions and then 10th backs that up, so what do you mean exactly ? we got rid of some good players too,we haven’t made the team better and not a lot to show for losing our best players End of Jan 2016/17 season - Played 29 games, Points=42. End of Jan 2017/18 season - Played 29 games, Points=39. 3 points difference despite all the changes. Not that much in it by my reckoning with plenty of games still to go.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 30, 2018 16:32:53 GMT
Ok everyone, it's gone 4:30pm, I hereby announce that the official "meltdown / sky is falling in / panic stations everyone" event shall now begin.
PS - Apologies, I couldn't be arsed to start a new thread.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 30, 2018 14:17:47 GMT
Ellis Harrison signs for Peterborough United for undisclosed fee!!!! This is what worries me, everyone is panicking about us not signing someone but I’m more concerned about us losing someone (Except poor Byron). Let’s hope we get through the next couple of days with Ellis, Sercs and Locks still wearing the quarters. Don’t get me wrong I would love a decent signing or 3? Let’s wait and see not long left now. don't you mean Byron Poor. I'll get my coat
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A week in
Jan 29, 2018 18:40:17 GMT
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Post by bluestone on Jan 29, 2018 18:40:17 GMT
4 weeks in and only 2 days left * all happening How do you know? Don't tell me, you're camped out in the corridors of power hidden behind a pot plant watching and hearing everything that's not going on.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 29, 2018 17:05:19 GMT
Call me Cynical, but we may hear something just before next seasons season tickets go on sale I don't understand why buying a ST would be conditional on stadium plans, even if they unveiled a plan tomorrow and said they were ready to apply for planning consent it wouldn't be ready for next season, or the season after that and probably the season after that!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 29, 2018 17:03:20 GMT
You'm totally clueless, bluestone. This is how it really works: Rich foreigner turns up. Endless top players bought. New stadium built straightaway. Hey presto. Simples. I know right, how long does it take to put up a few tents for god's sake!?
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Post by bluestone on Jan 29, 2018 14:03:53 GMT
So why not keep us updated, we could be doing all that, then again we could be doing zero planning. They have been in post for two years. Was the collapse of the uwe such a shock that they had no time to work on plan B just in case? We will still be here saying the same things in 3 years time and people will still be making excuses for them. I get people want to be all happy and believe that these are the best owners ever and all that but given what we have seen so far it is nothing but sheer faith that they will achieve anything of note in terms of giving this club a quality infrastructure. Working on plan B,C,D & E etc at the same time as plan A would have cost us money which we couldn't afford to waste. They've said before that until very late in the day they believed the UWE deal would happen but then UWE started undoing the progress they thought had been made. It was dragging on and on so they decided to force the issue to a conclusion by issuing them a deadline to agree to terms, UWE did not respond and we walked away. People either believe them or they don't it seems, I have not seen any evidence to suggest they are not telling the truth so I believe them. To me that was a brave decision, given the disappointment to the fan base and subsequent criticism that it has drawn which I'm sure they would have known would come their way. So it's back to square one, the drawing board, as they say. We need to give them some time and space to develop their own ideas and proposals, this doesn't happen overnight, see outline of key tasks below: 1) Identify business case and strategic brief. 2) Develop project objectives, budget, outline programme. 3) Prepare initial project brief. 4) Undertake feasibility studies for various options. 5) Review site information and constraints. 6) Prepare concept design. 7) Submit planning pre-application. 8) Amend plans to suit outcome of consultations. 9) Submit planning application. In amongst all of the above you have to undertake stakeholder consultations (dozens of interested parties for a project like this such as this!) at every step, as well as engage and commission various consultants including designers at the appropriate stage. All of this takes time and this is just to get to the point where you can submit a planning application. I am involved in a large and complicated project (£70m+ value) in my workplace and have been for the best part of a year now, in that time we have done steps 5 to 9 above. In terms of the Mem redevelopment given they had to more or less start from scratch I wouldn't expect DS to have got past step 2 yet tbh. Personally I think it is unrealistic to expect them to keep us informed every single step of the way on this because the process is so involved and dynamic, the proposal develops and evolves along the way responding to feedback and constraints. They will want to be confident that they can deliver something before they share it publicly with us and the wider world. When they have something they are ready to share with us we will be told, in the meantime as fans we need to keep turning up on a match day to support the team, manager and the club in its endeavour to at least maintain our L1 status. UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 29, 2018 12:12:03 GMT
Fergie junior would be better to do his taking on the pitch!
So glad that in DC we have someone with a grown up attitude who rarely gets drawn into the play ground tactics of managers like him and Uwe Rosler.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 28, 2018 19:58:39 GMT
Would have to be a couple of wingers coming in for me. We have lacked width all season and this has limited our formation options.
I'm not convinced we need another CB right now but when Sweeney goes back to Stoke at the end of the season we will so if the right player can be brought in now then why not.
In terms of the defensive midfielder role, Parts has looked decent in front of the back 4 of late, much better there than when he plays RB imo.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 28, 2018 14:41:06 GMT
More on Ellis from Donny forum:
"The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years."
The bit about our caveman midfielder did make me chuckle, but the observations about Ellis and his footballing intelligence are very interesting.
Ellis has certainly developed his own trademark style and tactics imo. At the last home game I saw him on the right hand side of the pitch when Smith was about to take a goal kick and he subtly signalled to Smith by pointing to the other side, Smith then hoofed the ball as directed and Ellis set off like a rocket running straight in to get his head under the ball and direct it into the middle for one of our midfielders to get onto. If you are one of the opposition's defenders and you keep getting Ellis rushing in towards you at a rate of knots like he does it must ruffle your feathers somewhat.
Keep up the good work Ellis!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 28, 2018 13:28:46 GMT
All this talk about evolution is utter BS. If the concept of evolution was genuine then teds wouldn't even exist. Put a teddy bear before the monkey and that would sum up the evolutionary difference between a typical ted and a gas head lol
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 19:24:27 GMT
If Ellis keeps this up we will surely lose him eventually, just as we have with snake and BB.
DC rightly says we can't afford to keep losing our best players but unfortunately they are bound to move up. It's a mark of his success as a manager that he has consistently been able to take lower league / non league talent and nurtured them into professional footballers who then get the opportunity go higher.
The best insurance policy we have is DC himself and his ability to keep doing the same thing over and over again, e.g. Sinclair, Broadbent, Partington etc. and now hopefully he will do the same with Rollin, Mensa and whoever he might sign next week.
I just hope that Ellis signed a minimum of 2 year deal last summer so we don't lose him on a free at the end of this season.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 17:42:34 GMT
Well done boys, great result. Well done all those that travelled, safe journey home. 693 of them - good turn out and glad you had some joy ! Now for 9k against Shrews next week - another team we owe a beating this season ! Yes, big time. I won't forget watching that dross anytime soon! If we can get a win next week I would fancy our chances of getting something away against Oxford the week after.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 17:31:03 GMT
Wonder what the moaners will moan about tonight..? They will moan about not having anything to moan about
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 16:55:57 GMT
Fantastic result, well done to the boys and the travelling support.
Great to see both our strikers on the score sheet.
We need to keep building on this momentum with another win next week.
UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 16:47:02 GMT
Ellisssssssssssss!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 16:42:46 GMT
Cmon gas hang on in there!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 27, 2018 16:34:39 GMT
Menayese, Sweens & Broadbent now all on together. Wow this should be interesting! We're literally putting a brick wall up in front of our goal. Literally? Are you sure that’s allowed? It should be, we need this away win that badly lol!
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