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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 23:08:12 GMT
you said and i quote Well unless you are the person wo decides upon handing out Visas in the country of my choice when I do move, I'll take your opinion about what would be offered to ke with a pinch of salt if you dont mind so yeah i stand by my post I dont deny what I said. You've just clearly misunderstood the entire point I'm afraid. Read the few posts leading up to that where it is nobby and Eric suggesting that I can go where I like and it is me quite clearly saying that I would take that with a pinch of salt and that it would rely upon the person handing out the visas to the country I want to live in to decide on that. I'm afraid you've got this one wrong My last post was in reference to this post that you seem to have modified and the forum software seems to have lopped of a chunk of your post
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 23:06:20 GMT
Believe me i don't argue online,tis a slight disagreement on a forum ,i don't post to get a rise like you seem to think ,if i genuinely wanted a rise from anyone there are easier ways than picking up on something someone posted. lets clear something up it's ok for someone to reply in the negative to a post picked from several ,but its not ok for someone else to do the same thing ,not arguing just interested to see the difference.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say with your last paragraph i didn't realise a thread started yesterday was an old thread that was resurrected, i thought that resurrecting old threads meant replying to thread that has been inactive for months not hours ,still if you missed the life of Brian reference to a good stoning then so be it.
So nope no arguing on my side
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:39:15 GMT
Because Nobby ( We have had this debate before) those words are straight out of the Friedrich Hayek playbook. He the Messiah of the Reagan / Thatcher Axis, whose disciples form the rump of J. Reese-Mogg anti EU brigade in the Tory members of Parliament. It's like an infection if you don't kill it completely, it comes back twice as bad. I hate to tell you this....but both Reagan and Thatcher are dead, and have been for quite some time. Hayek has been dead for a long time as well. I think times have moved on since then. Nobby are you sure they are in the same place as Monty Pythons parrot, i didn't realise they had died you do know how to express people don't you
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:35:23 GMT
Wow that has to be the best post on this thread that shows someones belief of i'm from the uk ,i'm not only entitled to but have a right to work anywhere in the world you choose You obviously missed my point there inee. I was saying I'm not entitled and dont believe it to be straightforward and will very much be in the hands of that country to decide on my merit. Sorry to disappoint you said and i quote Well unless you are the person wo decides upon handing out Visas in the country of my choice when I do move, I'll take your opinion about what would be offered to ke with a pinch of salt if you dont mind so yeah i stand by my post
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:31:57 GMT
Nah people tell u why but you seem to pretend they haven't ,me i will never be comfortable until we leave the fourth Reich. not one for hyperbole are you inee where was the eu initially funded from ,where did the money come from. Have a look but hey if you are happy to benefit from the origins of dirty money buy goods from certain companies then hey that's your choice
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:27:22 GMT
Why won't you be able to work in another EU country? If you have skills required then I'm sure any country would be pleased to have you, whether that's in the EU or elsewhere. Likewise, the UK won't be having a blanket ban on immigration. If someone has skills where we have a shortage then they will be welcomed, again whether that's from the EU or elsewhere. What most would want is a stop to people arriving who have nothing to offer, have criminal records, would take out more than they put in etc. that is not racist itis practical common sense - same as most countries operate. Well unless you are the person wo decides upon handing out Visas in the country of my choice when I do move, I'll take your opinion about what would be offered to ke with a pinch of salt if you dont mind Wow that has to be the best post on this thread that shows someones belief of i'm from the uk ,i'm not only entitled to but have a right to work anywhere in the world you choose
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:19:32 GMT
That would explain it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I cannot believe the good officer is now receiving a similar torrent of invective just because he points out a few verifiable facts. I love the one that's says "I didn't vote leave based on economics, but then admit they are not understood! So based on what then? Answer,"Not telling" 😱🤣 Nah people tell u why but you seem to pretend they haven't ,me i will never be comfortable until we leave the fourth Reich.
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:15:11 GMT
Perhaps the truth is you're getting a bit defensive and resorting to being offensive in some strange attempt at winning a debate? True colours coming through? tell me Eric was it me who attributed educational attainment to intellect or was it you? Oh that's right it was you. It wasn't Eric as someone has used that since he beginning of the thread
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Post by inee on Apr 4, 2019 22:01:36 GMT
I am an atheist. That should give you an insight. What I find laughable is the rank hypocrisy of the non Muslim west. So what's your informed insight? I realise expressing that may be difficult for you. An atheist who converted to Islam for pecuniary gain. In their eyes, you`re an apostate. If the people you admire so much found out, your head and your body would occupy different post codes. True or false?
Now that is one stoning i would willingly pay to see ,when do tickets go on sale ,i'm more excited about this than our trip to wembley in the leyland daf
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Post by inee on Mar 20, 2019 23:13:15 GMT
Quick question for you this classic vehicle not needing an mot if its 30 years old is it a rolling 30 years applicable to all vehicle types ,eg your car ,bike or camper van hits 30 years old and doesn't require a formal mot Or is it like the tax disk was to be for vehicles 25 years old or over but limmited to 1976 or before.
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Post by inee on Mar 20, 2019 23:05:12 GMT
I used to have a Midget and Ive also had a BGT. Loved the B in particular. Real dream come true when I got that. Sadly, kids and family put paid to my classic car dreams. hated the things could never get used to the driving position ,me i loved the stag
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Post by inee on Mar 20, 2019 23:03:07 GMT
You have to remember those stats you believe in so much and claim as evidence are just estimates based on a sample.(so are inaccurate) You also have to remember that unemployed means different things to different people or organisations. What would you class as unemployed ?? I'm sorry but this is quite nonsense if you are suggesting the health stats I shared are estimates. NHSE collect Minimum Data Set outcomes for a host of metrics for a host of services and from a host of providers. Its heavily regulated. They dont use samples on MDS they use the entire data set. You may mean the analysis of the data is interpreted? If so yes they are but I presented trends not analysis. Pre interpretation stats. No idea on the unemployment. Then why the comment, my post was about unemployment ,what people don't seem to grasp is that dole figures are manipulated ,it's been going on for years ,in the days of the ub40 and signing on ,it was calculated on the number of people claiming benefits and encompassed all benefits even dla(the purpose of which was to allow disabled people to pay for care or stuff they needed),hence the 3 million in the 80's this was then changed so people on dla were removed from the figures, people who were long term unemployed or sick or had families were moved across to income support , so only those who claimed unemployment benefit were included, since then benefits have changed names ,new benefits added and more claimants moved between groups the criteria to be classed is unemployed is odd (look up job seekers allowance) ,this can only be claimed for 6 months or so .once that time benefits stop. (the important bit here is you are then removed from the unemployment figures as you will be classified as inactive. When this universal credit is rolled out countrywide it will be worth looking at unemployment figures again as there will be less groups to move people around so it may result in more accurate figures
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Post by inee on Mar 20, 2019 22:00:10 GMT
I thought the Germans were smarter than that - how stupid to leave the EU and cause the loss of those 5000 jobs. Oh no hang on they haven't. Perhaps there is something else going on in the car industry? I was chatting last night about the UK employment numbers. We came to the same conclusion. Either the stats are wrong as reported, which I doubt to any significant degree, or something is happening, or has happened in the UK economy which is not totally understood. With a 76% employment rate, highest since records began, the country is in full swing. But the old counter measures don't stack up. With that level of employment you would have thought GDP growth would be stronger, or our productivity has collapsed. But either way, that number of people earning a wage cannot be a bad thing. Let's see what happens over the next year. You have to remember those stats you believe in so much and claim as evidence are just estimates based on a sample.(so are inaccurate) You also have to remember that unemployed means different things to different people or organisations. What would you class as unemployed ??
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 12:28:01 GMT
Will you stop swearing that c word is offensive
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 12:26:37 GMT
I don't recall the Dunblane or Hungerford massacres being related to immigration or different cultures here in the UK. Or the Birmingham or Guilford pub bombings. I do recall a very small number of religious fanatics in the UK shooting, bombing and mowing down people on bridges. I also see that gun laws in New Zealand are amongst the most liberal in the English-speaking countries. I read a lot about "mass immigration", whatever that means, or is covertly supposed to mean, being used as the cause of terrorism, and the reason for the inevitable breakdown of society and our descent into total chaos. This must be a bit confusing for Mr Ahmed, as he sells you your Daily Telegraph, Mr Ozturk, as he ladles your chilli sauce on your Friday kebab, Dr Patel, as she delivers your first child, and Mr Kowalski, as he finishes your new central heating system. All stereotypes, but I didn't start it. Birmingham ,Guilford ,Park Street ,Aldershot etc ,Carried out by irish immigrants from a known terrorist organisation who refuse to accept British rule(oh religion again) Westminster bridge oh yes religion again Religion of peace Lockerbie oh yes religion again Religion of peace.(you forgot that one for some reason) Dunblane police fault as he should never have been granted a gun licence ,several indicators as to why from a wpc were ignored by the copper issuing the licence Hungerford see above again police at fault. Call it stereotyping if you wish but 3 are terrorist related and 2 are not.(before you lot start i'm not in anyway shape or form trying to justify the 2 cu nt above, merely pointing out the difference). Interesting choice of names as one(possibly 2) are from the religion of peace ,one from a religion that hasn't committed terrorist actions in the uk) ,one possibly polish which has something like .1% of the population from the religion of piece and have never had a terrorist incident from the religion of piece i wonder why. Also very interesting how your post highlights where the current terrorist threat comes from Forgot to finish before posting. Gun control is an emotive subject however don't forget guns don't kill ,people kill people (yes i am aware some firearms have miss-fired and killed their operator but it wasn't a conscious decision made by the fire arm). look at the uk pistols and repeat firing (automatic weapons) were wrongly banned, as there are more firearms on the streets now than there were then (the fumiest part of the ban is some weapons handed in found their way to the streets). Looking at it banning certain firearms has had the opposite effect to that misguidedly intended , i suspect New Zealand will have a massive knee jerk reaction to firearms with out thinking it through as if somebody wants a firearm then they will get one even if there are none in the country (even building your own automatic is easy for anyone who can use a hacksaw and files etc). There are still stashes of Lee Enfileds ,Brens ,grenades and ammo buried and useable in this country stashes from ww2 that lay forgotten. As stated people seem to forget that if someones going to do something they will ,for some reason everyone jumps on the anti gun bandwagon without thinking here things through.
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 12:09:29 GMT
I don't recall the Dunblane or Hungerford massacres being related to immigration or different cultures here in the UK. Or the Birmingham or Guilford pub bombings. I do recall a very small number of religious fanatics in the UK shooting, bombing and mowing down people on bridges. I also see that gun laws in New Zealand are amongst the most liberal in the English-speaking countries. I read a lot about "mass immigration", whatever that means, or is covertly supposed to mean, being used as the cause of terrorism, and the reason for the inevitable breakdown of society and our descent into total chaos. This must be a bit confusing for Mr Ahmed, as he sells you your Daily Telegraph, Mr Ozturk, as he ladles your chilli sauce on your Friday kebab, Dr Patel, as she delivers your first child, and Mr Kowalski, as he finishes your new central heating system. All stereotypes, but I didn't start it. Birmingham ,Guilford ,Park Street ,Aldershot etc ,Carried out by irish immigrants from a known terrorist organisation who refuse to accept British rule(oh religion again) Westminster bridge oh yes religion again Religion of peace Lockerbie oh yes religion again Religion of peace.(you forgot that one for some reason) Dunblane police fault as he should never have been granted a gun licence ,several indicators as to why from a wpc were ignored by the copper issuing the licence Hungerford see above again police at fault. Call it stereotyping if you wish but 3 are terrorist related and 2 are not.(before you lot start i'm not in anyway shape or form trying to justify the 2 cu nt above, merely pointing out the difference). Interesting choice of names as one(possibly 2) are from the religion of peace ,one from a religion that hasn't committed terrorist actions in the uk) ,one possibly polish which has something like .1% of the population from the religion of piece and have never had a terrorist incident from the religion of piece i wonder why. Also very interesting how your post highlights where the current terrorist threat comes from
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 11:05:29 GMT
Stu if your referencing the post by e4 then yes that religion is mentioned on the 2nd line in brackets i'm suprised you missed it. Not aimed at you but i can never work out why people never seem to digest a post and seem to miss these things yest may be in brackets but it's there I didn't miss it, it was referring to similarities of which religion is one factor, the post also referenced others so to extrapolate one defining factor wasn't clear. The post referred specifically to immigration from the middle east. Indeed it did ,if you take the whole post or even just the first bit ,the reference to religion is there directly after the part in brackets that mentions similar ways of life ,then mentions the middle east different values laws etc ,so like i said in my mind it couldn't be clearer. He then goes on to say we need to forge closer links with our commonwealth partners which is exactly what needs to be done,(also others like retired Gurkhas) ,yes i know someone will come along and say oh its a different debate ,however everything is interlinked ,look at it another way people who have no link to us in anyway shape or form ,who want to ignore our laws and bring in their own version of law ,some indeed do practise this in communities across the world which they have moved to. At the same time the Windrush generation who worked their arses off over here get sh** on
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 9:47:08 GMT
Can't quite work out why he said (para): "subscribe to PewDiePie" before going in. Mental. Always live streaming it makes it even more sick. Truly horrific act. Apparently pewedipie was the most watched you tube channel for years but was knocked off of top spot by an asian music channel hence subscribe
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 9:35:48 GMT
Yep, don't know what happened there. You finally broke the internet
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Post by inee on Mar 19, 2019 9:34:41 GMT
Is it just me or is this deliberate baiting of each other getting tedious? Time to draw a line and get back to the substance of the topic. Problem is stu if you keep belittling people then those people will strike back ,if there's no provacation then there's no need to act tis simply human nature.
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