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Post by inee on Mar 16, 2019 15:56:51 GMT
I had a dream last night. 1-1 until the 87 min when we concede a penalty from which they score resulting in a 1-2 loss. Dont worry my dreams never come true Lets hope not or we'll have to hunt you down and roger you with a wet fish called dave
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Post by inee on Mar 16, 2019 15:54:52 GMT
Increased Health spending to the EU average (expressed as a % of gdp) I think that one went over your head ,was in reply to sure start ,thatcher bought in a scheme called employment training for adults on the dole ,which enabled them to gain qualifications to change carrear
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Post by inee on Mar 16, 2019 14:33:02 GMT
Blair was more Thatcher than Thatcher!! Sure Start? Employment training ?
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Post by inee on Mar 16, 2019 14:31:36 GMT
hope fer a 6-0 gas win, reality a scrappy 0-0 draw
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Post by inee on Mar 16, 2019 13:46:18 GMT
Few of us enjoy a pint or 4 in the club bars before a game, I reckon anyone would share a natter and a pint. Whereabouts are you living? May be a gashead near that would share transport. What part of the ground do you stand/sit? That’s cool I guess just wandering up to a group is a bit daunting! I’m living in Horfield, bout a mile from the mem, I’ve been standing in the thatchers end. If yer standing in the blackthorn , anyone would have a chat with you ,it probably the friendliest part of the ground. you could even bring back the hokey cokey enjoy, just remember if the club make an official announcement about the ground or training ground you have to convert the time scales adding 40 to 50 years
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Post by inee on Feb 23, 2019 16:20:43 GMT
Am watching on the Becca Gibson live stream, I don't think SAFC are all that. We look disorganised...need some glue in the midfield. UTG. need players without 2 right feet, Glue its bad if someones asking for glue
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Post by inee on Feb 23, 2019 15:29:57 GMT
Sunderland fan streaming game.....
Cheers chap
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 22:48:33 GMT
Anyone been following this case from the U.S.? I'd never heard of him but he's quite a famous actor apparently. He was allegedly assaulted in a racist and homophobic attack by Trump supporters. it seems he may have staged the whole thing and is about to be charged. Following the incident he received lots of very vocal support from celebs and the incident was widely condemned. I wonder if those who publicly supported him will now begin to round on him? He could easily have caused riots but will probably end up fuelling racist and homophobic attacks in the future and damage the cause of minority groups. The funny thing is this type of bollix has been going on for a long while , not just people playing the race card but a leftie and religious tactic used world wide. It really is cowardly, as for condemning him his supporters will say he needed to do it to raise awareness
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 22:38:29 GMT
She still thinks that I am something from another planet because I put chips in bread and butter. All Germans think this is weird, but this from a people who put Mayo on chips, they have no such thing as pies, and she personally can destroy scrambled eggs! Any news on what effect brexit will have on the price of pies? If they are going to cost a tenner a pop I will join calls for a People's Pie Vote. Eric come on you must realise that brexit means we will be living like those in the tv show tina goes shopping(80's show) ,worth watching for the cow in the kitchen
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 22:36:05 GMT
The chip butty should be enshrined in law to be taken at least 3 times daily, my dad had an odd habit fookin sunday roast he would make a sarnie from a bit of everything on his plate then dip it in gravy, that sh** should be outlawed, he was a commie so probably trying to sympathise with his russian comrades by putting an excess of cabbage in sarnies
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 22:05:18 GMT
In her latest interview she said she's willing to change if we let her back - clearly suggesting to me she still holds her extremist reviews but will go through the motions of "rehabilitation" and apologies etc just to help her achieve her goal. When Sky asked if she would let her child be taken back to the UK alone she said no, despite limited access to food and medical care in the camp. Pretty much holding the baby ransom until she gets her own way. She clearly knows the baby is her best bargaining chip and helps her get the sympathy vote. What a vile piece of work. I'd love her to be left to rot but like I've said before she will end up back here with no real justice/punishment before commencing a life on benefits and social housing. I read earlier that due to the vile comments she has her family have disowned her and want to raise the babber in the uk. The more the wazzock opens her mouth the more anti everybody she is
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 22:01:36 GMT
No Stuart. There was not a single reference to Oldie's late wife. Nothing, nada, zilch, and I'm surprised that anyone thinks I would even do that. If someone has mis-interpreted things, then that is their problem and not mine and I do not feel I should have to apologise for someone else's mistake ! Are we not allowed to joke about Islam now? You were joking about me in unpleasant, degrading and defamatory rhetoric regarding women from the Middle East in the full knowledge that my wife was from there. I pointed it out, you carried on with your soul mate, Wilson. That's fine. I think by a combination of private messages and the subsequent comments on here that others felt the same. On reflection of course, what is degrading is that two grown men would find humour in playground attempt at jokes. No they were taking the water out of a terrorist with extreme beliefs ,Pointing out that as your posts continually appear side with her, would you take her in. nobody has implied that your wife (R.I.P) had any extremist leanings.
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 21:37:38 GMT
Re we allowed to laugh at you whilst making degrading remarks about your wife's culture? Asking for a friend. You'll find that I'm one of the first to make fun of my wife's culture.........she is German you know so there is plenty of material How is helga nobs is she still chasing herr flick of the handlebar moustache society of German steel workers
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Post by inee on Feb 22, 2019 21:32:55 GMT
yep and it didn't slow you down one bit. Look nobby you do what you do. I've personally read enough here for now and will leave you to it. Sorry, but I think you are being a bit sensitive here. We were just joking about how it would affect Oldie to have this terrorist supporting woman living with him. It had nothing to do with his late wife as you well know. Exactly nobs,when oldie made a point of saying late wife ,you stopped ,neither one of you mentioned his wife R.I.P ,if people claim to be so intelligent why do they never fully read a post, anyone who read it should have seen it was you 2 mentioning the isis piece of turd living with oldie and how it would affect his life living with a friendly terrorist just like cher, lily allen etc ,all want these people to return but shy away from looking after them
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 14:04:19 GMT
The 'reformed' female example you used has now settled in the US, just cant have seen this happening if her father was burning the American flag. But he wasn't, it was hypothetical.
How do we know Shamina Begum wasn't defined by her Father's views?
My point is, it's all very well putting up one article about someone who has 'reformed' saying it can be done. Far, far too many variables to compare these two cases and think everything can be rosy.
We are arguing about different things then. I was referring to whether people can change. The article was about someone who has, and yes different circumstances will make a difference. I also quoted someone involved in deradicalisation programmes in sn earlier post so not just one example. Whilst i agree some can change, i feel that in terms of religion it would be extremely difficult to undo all those years of brainwashing from birth, i don't think i phrased that well, i'm trying to point out it would be a lot easier to change the views of someone on the far right or far left ,than someone who has held those views for most of their lives as it would go against everything they hold true, make out their parents and family as liars ,not just muslims but also christians (just look at those in the bible belt in the us)
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 13:57:55 GMT
Has her father been photographed burning the American flag though? Not trying to upset the apple cart, jaggas mentioned he read a news report on the father, i read that same reporter similar, however try as i may i cant find any reference to it today or yesterday(my internet history is deleted every time i close my browser). A point i would like to make is whilst reading those reports i was left wondering if the article was about her dad (i will swear blind it was) or as i found later a similar article about another one who left for syria (the one in question is the one that this girl has claimed died in an airstrike) , i will look up the names later as i need to take my meds
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 13:43:17 GMT
I feel there are no special circumstances as even though she was in syria she aligned herself with isis, she has also said she is ok with beheading because it's ok under islamic law, she has also said she wants to come back because of our medical system, she appears to show no remorse. And that is the most worrying thing. She could (and should) have at least pretended to be sorry! The fact that even that seems beyond her leaves very little room for anyone to credibly defend her. Her solicitor isn't exactly helping is he, he's claimed that the nsdap members in Germany were treated more fairly than her at the Nuremberg trials ,beggars belief as the world is a very different place now than even just 15 years ago, looks like he's just trying to get idiots who have to react when ever they hear the word nazi. Now here's a kicker her dad or one of the dads of the group she left with is blaming the ,local council, school they attended, our government and our security forces as he allegedly phoned the police to say his daughter was getting radicalised, which then comes full circle to the anti UK & us protests he took part in so in reality does his failings as a parent not make him guilty of her radicalisation, hes also trying to garner sympathy by saying before she went her muh died and it's all related.
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 13:26:02 GMT
Capture by who as there are 2 very different answers , if caught by the country they are in then they should be tried under those laws, with no intervention from anyone outside that country, it does grate when someone get jailed in another country then demands help from the uk ,if your stupid enough to break another countries laws then you should be left ,no excuses as if you visit another country you should take time to look at the big no no's over there If caught by us or the yanks then the get bought back spoken to by a very nice person from our security forces then either let go(this is the preferred option it seems) ,or jailed on a very light sentence with unenforceable parole conditions. hundreds have come back only 80 or so jailed. not aimed at anyone but can people not see why so many people are opposed to our very cushy legal system. Once you renounce your uk citizenship that should be it you should be left to rot Had she been caught in Iraq I would agree but I think Syria is a special case due to the circumstances. Cushy is a subjective term. FWIW here is one person who did change. It can be done and I think worth reading. She is now helping. news.sky.com/story/former-is-bride-urges-uk-to-show-shamima-begum-mercy-11640932I feel there are no special circumstances as even though she was in syria she aligned herself with isis, she has also said she is ok with beheading because it's ok under islamic law, she has also said she wants to come back because of our medical system, she appears to show no remorse.
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 13:16:59 GMT
At this point in time, regardless of her actions, she remains a UK citizen and is very much subject to our laws. We have, the UK, signed up to a treaty which makes it illegal to make our citizens stateless. She is subject to any law she has broken within borders of any state she has broken. My understanding is that as that State has broken down to a large degree she is in a refugee camp. It is the authorities who run that camp who are also seeking help from the government's of nationals in that camp. Of course internal rules about how refugees are treated come into play, to complicate matters further. Before she does re-enter the UK does she not have to prove she is a UK Citizen and how does she go about that? I hope the onus is on her to prove she has a valid right to enter the country and not for the government (and therefore the taxpayer) to pay for any investigations or evidence to assist her entry Eric i seem to recall a law passed after WW!(nah i'm not that old) that went along the lines of a uk citizen doesn't need a passport to get into back the uk so looks like she will be allowed back, If memory serves it had to do with soldiers returning with no documentation and was extended to everyone who is british , but im sure theirs another piece of legislation whereby citizens can be denied entry to the uk temporarily if they are deemed a security threat ,As for proving her id yes but i think thats as simple as contacting the passport office for photo id . so in effect it will be the taxpayer who foots the bill for her id etc
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Post by inee on Feb 18, 2019 11:16:53 GMT
It would be beneficial for us if something did happen to her but I've already said what I expect to happen, that she will return, lots of bluster about facing justice but eventually getting none or limited jail time before commencing a new life on benefits. To compare people's anger at this individuals actions with those who actively join this evil terrorist organisation and enjoy cutting innocent people's heads off with a blunt knife is just embarrassing. I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why you chose to bring skin colour into the earlier argument and in direct response to my post. Unless there was a reason you've yet to provide I can only assume it was a deliberate attempt to paint someone as racist to help you take a moral high ground and "win" your argument. On the contrary Eric, you can bluster as much as you like, but there are people on this thread who are advocating, openly, that she returns "In a body bag" That is exactly the style of justice practiced by extremists. There is no question that any of us feel comfortable with what she has done or that we feel great about what might happen if she does get back here. But surely you might agree that not adhering to due process is not constitutional and advocating circumventing it is a very dangerous precedent to take? But surely once you leave this country and burn your passport then you are saying i no longer believe in the laws of the uk, and therefore be subject to the laws of wherever she is, remember she went voluntarily to help an organisation who had their own set of laws and was happy living under them but now she has to live a tad uncomfortably she want pity and to come back to the country she despises so much
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