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Aug 6, 2021 15:46:57 GMT
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 15:46:57 GMT
Interesting from Barton: Last seasons budget was £2.5M-£2.6M, this season it will be £1.8M-1.9M He's getting his excuses lined up already then.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 15:07:45 GMT
A decent appointment on paper. Potentially the best in a very long time. Leahy. I liked him, but as a captain I think the appointment was desperate because of lack of candidates. Ehmer. No comment. Alfie. Too young. Ollie Clarke. Again, I liked him but not as captain material. Locks. Too quiet for me as a captain. Probably my turn to defacto captain in recent seasons would be Tony Craig. Just an opinion, of course... Lockyer's record as captain wasn't too bad though Don't tell SteveK.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 15:06:16 GMT
Why do you feel that you have the right to ask this? If it were my business I'd tell you to mind yours until I was ready to make an announcement. You are not financially invested in any stadium project so have no right to inside info, (if there is any to know). Also how can Wael give you an answer when he is not in a position to know? The sense of entitlement of some supporters is laughable. WE have a right to ask because the club have led us on time and time again . The boy that cried wolf springs to mind. Wael knows if he is serious about a stadium or not.Its not inside knowledge...theres no demand for secret documents just straight forward declaration of serious intent or not. So if we are not financially invested in a stadium project the club wont be wanting any money from us in the future then ? Or Is a stadium mostly to do with getting finances from fans and businesses that know fans will see their advertising ? Like i said no change in the mem or a new ground will see the club die probably over the next decade.Been hearing that for 20 years.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 11:36:45 GMT
No offence and I don't think it's a bad thing to have an aim - I'm just saying we can't really critique the club for current sales levels. I do recall quid a kid matches at Twerton but only as a select offer for particular games, not as standard. Oh was it. My memory deserts me then I thought it was quid a kid all the time in the family stand next to the away fans. I can't say you're wrong on that. I have a stub for Rovers V City 21st December 1991: Adult = £5.50 Juvenile/OAP = £3.50 Young Pirates = £3
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 11:17:29 GMT
No, you can't look at the pandemic effect in many ways. More people are out of work now than were before. More people are wary of attending populous events than were before. You've just picked a figure of 5k out of the air and decided that's what should be happening. You've ignored previous season ticket sales figures and you've ignored the current climate. I could say my car should be driving at 200 miles an hour and just ignore the fact that it's never driven that fast before and the fact that they've just made it a 20 limit outside my house. It's easy to just pluck figures out of the air. 7689 11
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 11:17:01 GMT
No, you can't look at the pandemic effect in many ways. More people are out of work now than were before. More people are wary of attending populous events than were before. You've just picked a figure of 5k out of the air and decided that's what should be happening. You've ignored previous season ticket sales figures and you've ignored the current climate. I could say my car should be driving at 200 miles an hour and just ignore the fact that it's never driven that fast before and the fact that they've just made it a 20 limit outside my house. It's easy to just pluck figures out of the air. Im sorry the 5k figure has offended you so much. I personally don’t see aiming to attract 5k season ticket holders is a bad thing or unattainable target. The port vale initiative for kids for instance sounds fantastic. When I was a kid watching at twerton it was always quid a kid. I know that was 30 years ago now but with the lack of kids attending gas matches anyway I don’t see why we can’t bring back quid a kid for every home game for instance. It won’t affect gate money much at all. No offence and I don't think it's a bad thing to have an aim - I'm just saying we can't really critique the club for current sales levels. I do recall quid a kid matches at Twerton but only as a select offer for particular games, not as standard.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 10:29:50 GMT
Why should we be exceeding our normal season ticket sales immediately after a pandemic in which many people lost their jobs and from which many people are not comfortable attending crowd events? Typical Rovers fan - pluck something out of the air and whinge about the club without even considering what it is you're whinging about. Where is my whinge about the club in that post? If saying the club needs to drive towards attracting the young fans back is having a whinge at the club then I misunderstand the meaning of the word whinge. As for saying we should be selling 5k that’s not w whinge at the club in anyway. I don’t think 5k season ticket holders is an unrealistic target at all for a club in a city of our size. You can look at the pandemic effect in both ways. I can name many people who have bought season tickets for the first time as a result of being starved of football for so long. No, you can't look at the pandemic effect in many ways. More people are out of work now than were before. More people are wary of attending populous events than were before. You've just picked a figure of 5k out of the air and decided that's what should be happening. You've ignored previous season ticket sales figures and you've ignored the current climate. I could say my car should be driving at 200 miles an hour and just ignore the fact that it's never driven that fast before and the fact that they've just made it a 20 limit outside my house. It's easy to just pluck figures out of the air.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 10:25:17 GMT
LJG. I dont think they had Acadamies in my time. I do wish we could produce some youngsters that were good enough. I thought in his first season that Kilgour could be that player but I have a feeling that Tony Craig covered up his weaknesses and last season I honestly thought he was dreadful. As for Houle I think he could make it but am not convinced he is ready at this time to play regularly. I am not convinced that acadamies are the way forward for clubs in our position. They cost a lot of money to set up and IMO football is only set up for the Premier League and if we do get any decent youngsters they will be prised away from us for next to nothing before they even make the squad. It seems to me that our current crop of youngsters might be better than the last and could well overtake the Hargreaves,Liddle and Tomlinsons but even then with the way we have signed players I cannot really see them getting in our squad. Clarke, Lockyear and Lines have all been subject to your obsessive negativity towards them when they were here. You have some weird bias against home grown local players and you're unable to view them objectively.
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 9:11:23 GMT
giles, Read my post. I did not say he started the game I said he started with a customary error giving the ball away at the star5t of the second half. It is not negative obsession-it is fact that he has been awful and given loads of goals away. We can hope that he can improve this season. What is your fixation on slating our young local players every week? Were you let go by the academy or something?
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Post by LJG on Aug 6, 2021 8:54:42 GMT
Tranmere have sold 3200 for context . So we’re doing ok , I always think of Tranmere as a similar sized club as the Gas. Tranmere have Liverpool and Everton on their doorstep. We have Bristol city and bath city. I know we got relegated etc etc but I think 3900 is a poor showing from us. With our competion and backing from the owner this season we should be selling 5k minimum. I guess the facilities don’t help. 😥 but I do think our fan base is dwindling / aging. I know it’s been said lots of times but the club really do need to drive to get young fans back at the mem for our long term future. Hard I know when our family stand is a tent. Why should we be exceeding our normal season ticket sales immediately after a pandemic in which many people lost their jobs and from which many people are not comfortable attending crowd events? Typical Rovers fan - pluck something out of the air and whinge about the club without even considering what it is you're whinging about.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 18:05:34 GMT
Unpaid internships - embarrassing and a joke. No free iFollow codes for those not wanting to attend games - a joke and embarrassing. Barton - an embarrassing joke.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 15:25:54 GMT
Relegation dog fight until about February then abject mid-table obscurity after DC comes back on Valentines day to begin the fight back.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 13:12:30 GMT
Some of our own fans got nothing good to say about our club, from what I am seeing lately it's just put us down as much as they can, go and support someone else if all you want to do is have a dig. The club do that, very well, all by themselves. How is the person supposed to get to work, pay for food and live etc. Come on, this is beyond the pale. No. It isn't.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 13:11:59 GMT
While I am in one of those moods, I am getting really P?!sed off with an annoying pop up at the bottom of gaschat, I open up gaschat and go to click on Gas works and it jumps up just b4 and I end up clicking on Prediction League instead, for god sake Wael sort this out. Thank you! Been doing my head in for days!
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 11:14:44 GMT
Unpaid internships can be a barrier to social mobility. Students and graduates from wealthier backgrounds can take part in unpaid internships, while many others cannot afford to. There is a bill going through Parliament in an effort to make it illegal for internships to last more than 4 weeks because a long unpaid internship could be regarded as a way of having someone do a job without paying them for it. Big deal. So if that bill is enacted then I'm sure we won't offer unpaid internships anymore. And if that happens all those who would have gained valuable work experience won't be gaining that valuable experience anymore.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:53:40 GMT
Great to see Kingsley and Joe getting squad numbers, a couple of good news stories from the Academy seen them play a few times, 100% deserve a chance. Alfie will also have a great opportunity to learn from some good (unlike last season) experienced players. Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault. Some very good players and coaches have left or been released because of the shambles certain elements bring to what should be a very professional set up. I know that Rovers are not alone as it happens in every club. Just very unnecessary for me that we let it happen. Myself being a younger lad, I have had known a couple people in the academy over the years who have been released and the standard of coaching is a joke (their words not mine), saying majority of the time they play on sunday league standard pitched and train on public fields or basic astro turfs, then down the road them lot have all academy facilities for I think under 12s - 18s and a gym. Our academy lads don't get to go a gym with the academy and the coaches are just like normal 40 year old blokes. This was a couple years ago that I was told this by people and I'd seen with my own eyes when watching my mate that it looks a very amateur, underfunded and perhaps neglected. I hope this has changed now but certainly 5 years ago it didn't look good from what I had seen and heard. So my facts there could be completely irrelevant right now, however with what your saying it doesn't surprise me at all. UTG Think that tells its own story.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:52:22 GMT
Is this something you know or have been told about. Are these people in senior positions ? . I take it they were here before Joey arrived ? Unfortunately first hand experience. I have a son that plays, TBF the pre academy u8's and pretty much the Foundation Phase u9's - u12's, is run fairly well, all be it with sub standard home venues, unless LSC is booked, and no where to call home. The long term coaches being very good, The part timers are in the main poor, and the good ones dont last very long. The other Academy teams (that are played on a regular basis Cat 3) without exception all have their own facilities ranging from very good to ok. Problem is when you get to Youth Development Level u13's and above. Training Facilities bordering on unplayable and risking injury which happens a lot, coaching and strength ,conditioning non existent. The biggest issue is the Leads of the Youth Development stages and the ultimate person in charge. These people have the decision making powers and in my opinion are clueless in every way from coaching techniques, administration, planning and organisation. All very separate from the First team and first team affairs, until you start to get to scholarship level at u17 u18 and above. Unfortunately its to late by then, which is why I genuinely believe that the Brentford model would work well for us, unless they have a complete review and change in the full time personnel. But in fairness the club have more important and pressing issues with the First team, which I understand. Maybe a Academy Thread would work. When I read your first comment and before I'd even seen this one I was going to reply "sorry your son was let go". Sour grapes.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:46:08 GMT
Mods - can we change the thread title please? It's inappropriate and gives no indication of the thread subject matter.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:45:28 GMT
Unpaid internship- completely common practice in every walk of life. Barristers call it "mini-pupillage" law firms call them "vac schemes".
But of course because it's Rovers our own fans must have some faux outrage about it.
Oh and while we're paying the work experience kiddie £40k we should be handing out free iFollow codes to everyone as well.
Then people want to do a forensic inspection of the accounts and sweat about our losses.
Dear me.
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Post by LJG on Aug 4, 2021 13:43:23 GMT
No, but I'd like to do so for one of the elderly and vulnerable supporters I previously mentioned.
Saw his first Rovers game in 1942 and has only missed 14 games (home and away) in the past 26 years.
Spent £370.00 on a disabled season ticket and another £70.00 on the car park but is too worried about his health to return to crowded stadiums at this time.
He's clinically extremely vulnerbale, takes immunosuppressant drugs and has been shielding since March 2020. He could not have watched Rovers for first time in 1942 as club did not play from Oct 1939 to 1945 closed club down due to the War and financial situation. Good spot.
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