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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 21:02:22 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same?
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Post by socrates on Jun 30, 2017 21:56:11 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? He seems genuine and trustworthy clearly loves football and has put a fair bit of money and structure in to our club in the short time he's been here so I've got no reason to not trust him. Keeping a successful manager and players is something we've never done until now apart from Taylor but that was out of our hands and im pretty sure Higgs and co wouldn't have spent the money or been able to give DC what he's wanted and bring all those background staff in. I'm very pleased with what he's done in his time here he comes across as a passionate football supporter , a very sensible business man and probably most importantly somebody who understands the game and what it's going to take to keep Rovers improving. He may or may not have the amount of money that that fat red faced lady garden at the sh** have got but what he has got is class and personality and an understanding of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 22:42:24 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? Is he still undermining the manager though that is the question
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jun 30, 2017 22:54:00 GMT
Great policy until it goes wrong. Every penny being spent on the ground and squad is secured against the freehold of the Mem. It goes wrong there is nothing left.
Hopefully faith in Wael and his family is well placed
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jun 30, 2017 23:48:32 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? Nice smokescreen!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 1, 2017 5:19:46 GMT
Trust is earned, not just given.
If the last 10yrs have taught us anything, it's that blind faith is a very, very stupid thing to have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 5:52:44 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? Is he still undermining the manager though that is the question Was not aware he has been "undermining the manager". Tell us more?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 6:08:17 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? If Wael was in total control, fine - but he isn't. Even the BoD as a whole are not in total control. DC has more support staff than players at the moment - next week IMO is fairly defining as to whether or not he can attract the right players to the club.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 1, 2017 6:22:18 GMT
Is he still undermining the manager though that is the question Was not aware he has been "undermining the manager". Tell us more? He is referring to one of BBs late night flame posts when he suggested that WAQ was undermining DC by signing players behind his back that DC doesn't want.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 7:00:41 GMT
Its the best policy for genuine rovers fans. Trust him to deliver the top 6 budget promised. Trust him to develope the training ground. Trust him to secure UWE if its in the best interests of the football club or start from scratch on an alternative project. We will have a good idea of the playing budget by september 1st and the other projects in the reasonably near future so at the moment the only real option is trust. The tweets of the peterbro chairman have given us all an incite into the difficulties of the transfer market and its such a short period until we know whats going to happen on these big issues in my view. So it might be corny but im going down the trust in wael route and hope others feel the same? Is he still undermining the manager though that is the question I didnt like the pre season signings much last year or rather i was critical of the 6 loans of young kids and luke james. Hoping for better this season although of course sweeney and lumley were great later on and are young.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 7:04:37 GMT
Trust is earned, not just given. If the last 10yrs have taught us anything, it's that blind faith is a very, very stupid thing to have. Thats true but i cant be critical of the signings yet as we have only made one and we will have a better picture on that by match 1 and then september 1st.
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 1, 2017 7:23:56 GMT
My take is that Wael is the front man, the charming one with the PR skills; and, yes, a genuine love of football and a developing attachment to Bristol Rovers. It's the rest of the family who are the hard-headed businessmen. Taking over Rovers was an investment, not an act of charity. They will want a maximum return, and if that is not forthcoming......................
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 7:53:58 GMT
Trust no one in this game football is a business and like Hugo said trust is earned not given.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 1, 2017 8:18:11 GMT
Istm pretty apparent that Wael and Co have done enough to deserve our support and trust through one close-season transfer window.
Maybe if they f**k up this one, we can be wary of the next, but surely they have done enough so far with infrastructure and personnel and general behind the scenes organisation that we can give them at least the benefit of our doubt for a couple of months.
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Post by oldgas on Jul 1, 2017 8:27:54 GMT
I don't see why the Al Quadi family would have bought the club unless they intended to stay for the long term and invest.
I take Hugo's point entirely. After the fiasco of the Higgs era he's right to be wary. However, if the idea was to make a fast buck then buying Bristol Rovers was never a good idea. It is an even worse idea to then spend money on improving infrastructure, employing a manager on a long term contract with a top six budget, etc etc. The value of the main asset, the Memorial stadium, would soon be absorbed as debt, so at the best all they could hope for would be their money back, and that after several years of heartache.
That doesn't make sense to me, they must be committed to developing the club, and for those reasons I am prepared to invest my trust.
But I am slightly wary!
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Post by alvestongas on Jul 1, 2017 8:31:00 GMT
Our club is in a far better position now both on & off the field and financially since he took over. Surely that's enough to give him time and support to get things right! I think he has been a breath of fresh air and there is light at the end of the very long tunnel.
#Ibelieve UTG
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 1, 2017 8:37:16 GMT
Our club is in a far better position now both on & off the field and financially since he took over. Surely that's enough to give him time and support to get things right! I think he has been a breath of fresh air and there is light at the end of the very long tunnel. #Ibelieve UTG He has my full support. Support and trust are 2 very different animals.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 1, 2017 8:42:55 GMT
Our club is in a far better position now both on & off the field and financially since he took over. Surely that's enough to give him time and support to get things right! I think he has been a breath of fresh air and there is light at the end of the very long tunnel. #Ibelieve UTG He has my full support. Support and trust are 2 very different animals. Blind faith and trust are two different things, as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 10:34:17 GMT
The Al Qadi family own the club....all you can do is trust they will do things to the best of their abilities and with the well being of the clubs history at heart. The mem is a dead weight around the clubs neck unless it can bring in non match income on a greater scale. Without the Al Qadi's and DC ...A few seasons of unlucky managers/players and the club could be back in the conference with tiny crowds. Im not sure the same support would be there for a second time. The mems costs would then sink the club anyway. Its do or die time at Rovers.
The only other solution is to downgrade.Build a smaller all seater stadium on the mem site which has a good array of other income streams. Maybe an 8000 ground.Re-adjust expectations ...top end of league one being the prize to aim for.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 1, 2017 10:51:25 GMT
Was not aware he has been "undermining the manager". Tell us more? He is referring to one of BBs late night flame posts when he suggested that WAQ was undermining DC by signing players behind his back that DC doesn't want. Yes but that turned out to be untrue didn't it? Obviously Wael was instrumental in the lad coming over for a week or two last season and appearing in a couple of development matches as a "trialist" but the decision to pursue that avenue because the trial was successful was down to the management team. Now it's up to the lad himself to grab that chance and further his career in the game in England.Meanwhile they've given DC a decent budget that has enabled him to bid money for his top targets in various positions. That some of those bids are rejected is not because they've undermined him with a poor transfer kitty but because of differences of opinion in the value of the players concerned. At least we know DC won't waste the whole summer chasing one player as we did unsuccessfully with Constable and successfully with JJOT. With three options for each of his perceived squad gaps it's cutting the cloth so that the whole suit fits that has to be done now.
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