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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 8:26:46 GMT
What "rumours" sites as nobody else has mentioned that on here before with any conviction? I would hope we'd tell QPR to do one rather than enter into talks. I was thinking the same regarding the rumours. I know some people have suggested that but rather as their opinion than an actual suggestion of what is happening. I'm a big believer that "every player has his price". I think its ridiculous when a club says a player is not for sale at any price, because unless if you are one of the biggest and best clubs in the world, talking about one of the best players in the world, it simply isn't true. However, if they offer a stupidly low amount at the start of discussions, then I'd turn around and say stop wasting my time! "Listen" - even Taylor wouldn't be sold for £10 million - what did he eventually go for?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 4, 2017 8:31:39 GMT
I was thinking the same regarding the rumours. I know some people have suggested that but rather as their opinion than an actual suggestion of what is happening. I'm a big believer that "every player has his price". I think its ridiculous when a club says a player is not for sale at any price, because unless if you are one of the biggest and best clubs in the world, talking about one of the best players in the world, it simply isn't true. However, if they offer a stupidly low amount at the start of discussions, then I'd turn around and say stop wasting my time! "Listen" - even Taylor wouldn't be sold for £10 million - what did he eventually go for? What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 4, 2017 8:46:45 GMT
Aloud.....I swear people do this to specifically annoy me. Happens far too often to be coincidence. Same mate, i really get my panties in a bunch when posters get your & you're mixed up. There stupid. Can i change my name to stupid then
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jul 4, 2017 8:48:07 GMT
"Listen" - even Taylor wouldn't be sold for £10 million - what did he eventually go for? What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad. I agree with you regarding the UWE thing. But in terms of the player valuation, surely the easiest thing to say is 'Yes we have a valuation of him and until that value is met, he won't be going anywhere.' This way it is a completely honest and open response and you're not publicly disclosing the amount you want for a player, but you're not going to end up with egg on your face either.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 4, 2017 8:57:07 GMT
What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad. I agree with you regarding the UWE thing. But in terms of the player valuation, surely the easiest thing to say is 'Yes we have a valuation of him and until that value is met, he won't be going anywhere.' This way it is a completely honest and open response and you're not publicly disclosing the amount you want for a player, but you're not going to end up with egg on your face either. I don't think anyone took that £10M literally. It was just a way of saying we don't want to sell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:04:18 GMT
"Listen" - even Taylor wouldn't be sold for £10 million - what did he eventually go for? What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad. I would expect him to say "yeah he's worth a lot of money" - rather than set himself up to be effectively 'shot down' a few weeks later. Presumably the Chairman negotiates players contracts - how he allowed a £300k release clause to be inserted in Taylor's contract and at the same time giving him a large pay rise is disappointing. That's another story done to death!! "daily updates on the UWE"? I don't think anyone has asked or expected a daily update. This is a very uncommunicative BoD IMO - updates on anything to do with UWE or The Colony are very rare and as a result generate speculation - positive and negative.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jul 4, 2017 9:09:00 GMT
What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad. I would expect him to say "yeah he's worth a lot of money" - rather than set himself up to be effectively 'shot down' a few weeks later. Presumably the Chairman negotiates players contracts - how he allowed a £300k release clause to be inserted in Taylor's contract and at the same time giving him a large pay rise is disappointing. That's another story done to death!! "daily updates on the UWE"? I don't think anyone has asked or expected a daily update. This is a very uncommunicative BoD IMO - updates on anything to do with UWE or The Colony are very rare and as a result generate speculation - positive and negative. The 10M comment was obviously to try and sway clubs from signing Taylor and it obviously worked until something behind the scenes happened and City realised he had a 300K release clause. Taylor wanted the release clause or he wouldn't sign. We were told this, but of course the club don't communicate with us - or you just chose to ignore this one. It was either start the season with Taylor or let him sign for someone else in League 1. People expect constant updates on something that has taken years to just get to the stage we are at now with the stadium. When there are updates its very similar to the last and people complain.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:29:44 GMT
I would expect him to say "yeah he's worth a lot of money" - rather than set himself up to be effectively 'shot down' a few weeks later. Presumably the Chairman negotiates players contracts - how he allowed a £300k release clause to be inserted in Taylor's contract and at the same time giving him a large pay rise is disappointing. That's another story done to death!! "daily updates on the UWE"? I don't think anyone has asked or expected a daily update. This is a very uncommunicative BoD IMO - updates on anything to do with UWE or The Colony are very rare and as a result generate speculation - positive and negative. The 10M comment was obviously to try and sway clubs from signing Taylor and it obviously worked until something behind the scenes happened and City realised he had a 300K release clause. Taylor wanted the release clause or he wouldn't sign. We were told this, but of course the club don't communicate with us - or you just chose to ignore this one. It was either start the season with Taylor or let him sign for someone else in League 1. People expect constant updates on something that has taken years to just get to the stage we are at now with the stadium. When there are updates its very similar to the last and people complain. I didn't choose to ignore anything. The facts are we were told about the release clause AFTER he'd gone to justify why he was sold so cheaply. I didn't realise he wouldn't sign unless the £300k was inserted - but there again I wasn't party to the negotiations. I didn't realise you knew where we are at with regard to the negotiations with UWE.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jul 4, 2017 9:40:26 GMT
The 10M comment was obviously to try and sway clubs from signing Taylor and it obviously worked until something behind the scenes happened and City realised he had a 300K release clause. Taylor wanted the release clause or he wouldn't sign. We were told this, but of course the club don't communicate with us - or you just chose to ignore this one. It was either start the season with Taylor or let him sign for someone else in League 1. People expect constant updates on something that has taken years to just get to the stage we are at now with the stadium. When there are updates its very similar to the last and people complain. I didn't choose to ignore anything. The facts are we were told about the release clause AFTER he'd gone to justify why he was sold so cheaply. I didn't realise he wouldn't sign unless the £300k was inserted - but there again I wasn't party to the negotiations. I didn't realise you knew where we are at with regard to the negotiations with UWE. Did you want SH to come round to every Rovers fans house and tell them personally that there is a release clause but to keep it quiet so no one else finds out? We were told by the club he wouldn't sign if the 300K wasn't inserted, you didn't have to be at the negotiation. I don't know where we are with UWE, but even I realise it's not something that happens overnight and the process can be very slow, and so to expect updates all the time is a bit too much.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 4, 2017 9:42:54 GMT
What would you prefer DC to say? 'Yeah, Taylor's worth a lot of money, but unfortunately he's got a release clause of 350K, so if we get a bid for that amount, even from our local rivals, we'd be obliged to let him go.' This is why we don't get daily updates on the UWE. It seems that people want to be kept up to date, but then they don't want to be told anything compromising, but they want to be told all the news. But information in negotiations is compromising. Then when they are (necessarily) given misinformation, or not told the whole story, they get mad. I would expect him to say "yeah he's worth a lot of money" - rather than set himself up to be effectively 'shot down' a few weeks later. Presumably the Chairman negotiates players contracts - how he allowed a £300k release clause to be inserted in Taylor's contract and at the same time giving him a large pay rise is disappointing. That's another story done to death!! "daily updates on the UWE"? I don't think anyone has asked or expected a daily update. This is a very uncommunicative BoD IMO - updates on anything to do with UWE or The Colony are very rare and as a result generate speculation - positive and negative. an uncommunicative BOD eh?
well certainly no worse than the last lot
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 10:20:56 GMT
Isnt it just a forum? Let anyone start a thread about anything at all i say,nobody has to post on it or reply to the op do they? What happened to free speech? Some on here want people banned for non conformist posts/threads etc. Its not rupert murdochs sky news ffs just say what you think,post what you want and create any thread you feel like creating. Thats supposed to be the fun of it surely? anybody giving their own opininion on anything,thats what its all about for me. Then if you disagree get typing and explain why. Dont scream like a baby and say "mods ban this rubbish" Instead fight your corner,difficult concept for some i know. I guess like most posters know how to use a cap lock button most of us know how a forum normally works and it's not just starting random threads for anything which comes into a forum user's heads. Do we really need new threads every time a poster thinks about a player we could sign/Weal tweets etc, etc. "most of us know how a forum normally works" people are individuals not robotic conformists! Whats a cap lock?
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Post by aghast on Jul 4, 2017 12:41:21 GMT
The 10M comment was obviously to try and sway clubs from signing Taylor and it obviously worked until something behind the scenes happened and City realised he had a 300K release clause. Taylor wanted the release clause or he wouldn't sign. We were told this, but of course the club don't communicate with us - or you just chose to ignore this one. It was either start the season with Taylor or let him sign for someone else in League 1. People expect constant updates on something that has taken years to just get to the stage we are at now with the stadium. When there are updates its very similar to the last and people complain. I didn't choose to ignore anything. The facts are we were told about the release clause AFTER he'd gone to justify why he was sold so cheaply. I didn't realise he wouldn't sign unless the £300k was inserted - but there again I wasn't party to the negotiations. I didn't realise you knew where we are at with regard to the negotiations with UWE. The Snake's release clause and its value were widely discussed on here before he joined that lot.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jul 4, 2017 13:03:50 GMT
I didn't choose to ignore anything. The facts are we were told about the release clause AFTER he'd gone to justify why he was sold so cheaply. I didn't realise he wouldn't sign unless the £300k was inserted - but there again I wasn't party to the negotiations. I didn't realise you knew where we are at with regard to the negotiations with UWE. The Snake's release clause and its value were widely discussed on here before he joined that lot. Correct & as our current board seem to keep things more to themselves than the last lot, we can probably take it that the release clause was leaked by the snake or his agent. Yes I would love some positive news on UWE, but the last update was that we have to agree by the end of Aug to beat the planning deadline, and that will only be pushed back if we are very close to a deal, so not long now............hopefully
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Post by kruger on Jul 4, 2017 13:05:17 GMT
I've heard August and January which one is it,
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Post by yatetown85 on Jul 4, 2017 13:13:28 GMT
Winter is coming...
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 4, 2017 13:15:42 GMT
I've heard August and January which one is it, Thought January was the date it will expiry, but August was the deadline as it will take that long to get started.
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Post by kruger on Jul 4, 2017 18:22:52 GMT
I've heard August and January which one is it, Thought January was the date it will expiry, but August was the deadline as it will take that long to get started. oh ok thanks
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Post by singupgas on Jul 4, 2017 23:27:39 GMT
Lost interest in UWE personally. Been going on far too long now.
I hope if nothing is announced before first game of the season at the mem, that They don't have those artistic impressions of UWE hanging above the bar..
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 5, 2017 10:30:15 GMT
Lost interest in UWE personally. Been going on far too long now. I hope if nothing is announced before first game of the season at the mem, that They don't have those artistic impressions of UWE hanging above the bar.. I feel that we need some resolution to this situation soon and if its not to be then so be it, but i would hope that a Plan "B" was in the pipeline Even a small upgrade to the mem would help us out. I'm not sure a full blown upgrade/rebuild like our friends south of the river have done is possible in our location
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 10:41:44 GMT
Lost interest in UWE personally. Been going on far too long now. I hope if nothing is announced before first game of the season at the mem, that They don't have those artistic impressions of UWE hanging above the bar.. Would you rather us commit to a bad deal with UWE in the interest of time and jeopardise the future prospects of the club? I have every faith in Wael and recognise the protracted discussions are in the best interests of Bristol Rovers. You can rest assured that lots of work will be going on behind the scenes as a stadium rebuild/redevelopment was central to their takeover plans. Patience is needed.
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