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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 19:53:28 GMT
Very frustrating game today and for me a continuation of the stuff I/We witnessed at places like Coventry and Gillingham at the end of last season.
I don't like rounding on players and before anyone says it's the first game of these for gods sake, it isn't when it comes to our captain. Last season wasn't great for Tom Lockyer but he was helped when Sweeney came in and for me it's evident he needs to play alongside a ball winner. I was at Charlton away last season when he lost his marker for two goals and DC commented after the game in his interview.
It was again evident today that the Charlton centre halves had been told to target Tom at set pieces and again they scored from Lockyer losing his marker. I watched Tom struggle all game physically with the opposition strong men at set pieces and their is a reason why he also never scores from our own set pieces?
I still believe we need a captain on the pitch that leads us in situations like the second half today when we looked like a team lost at sea.
How does the captain lead when he struggles himself on the pitch? I would really love to see Burn given a go or Broadbent and Sweeney together. You can play two centre halves both of the same strong foot, Twentyman/Yates, Terry/Ferdinand, Bruce/Palliater, Adams/Keown, Ferdinand/Vidic.
The two favourites of Lockyer and Brown seem undroppable, I wouldn't be upset if either were taken out to give others ago. Brown today had 14 or 15 crossings oppurtunities and also of them were terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 19:56:13 GMT
Undroppable Tom.
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Post by yategas78 on Aug 5, 2017 20:01:21 GMT
Very frustrating game today and for me a continuation of the stuff I/We witnessed at places like Coventry and Gillingham at the end of last season. I don't like rounding on players and before anyone says it's the first game of these for gods sake, it isn't when it comes to our captain. Last season wasn't great for Tom Lockyer but he was helped when Sweeney came in and for me it's evident he needs to play alongside a ball winner. I was at Charlton away last season when he lost his marker for two goals and DC commented after the game in his interview. It was again evident today that the Charlton centre halves had been told to target Tom at set pieces and again they scored from Lockyer losing his marker. I watched Tom struggle all game physically with the opposition strong men at set pieces and their is a reason why he also never scores from our own set pieces? I still believe we need a captain on the pitch that leads us in situations like the second half today when we looked like a team lost at sea. How does the captain lead when he struggles himself on the pitch? I would really love to see Burn given a go or Broadbent and Sweeney together. You can play two centre halves both of the same strong foot, Twentyman/Yates, Terry/Ferdinand, Bruce/Palliater, Adams/Keown, Ferdinand/Vidic. The two favourites of Lockyer and Brown seem undroppable, I wouldn't be upset if either were taken out to give others ago. Brown today had 14 or 15 crossings oppurtunities and also of them were terrible. Sounded like Browner couldn't cross a road today let alone a football!! |
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Post by axegas on Aug 5, 2017 20:03:34 GMT
Good post OP and I would have to agree with you, Lockyer and Brown just don't seem as undroppable as they have been in previous seasons. For me I would like to see a centerback partnership of Sweeney and Burn next match. Burn hasn't been given enough of a chance to show what's he's all about so far, he was rated at Kilmarnock before he got injured and is of a good age.
Bola is another who I think could break into the starting eleven and do well, looked good in pre season and has the attacking abilities that brown does not have aswell as being a good defender. DC has some tough decisions to make before the two games next week and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of experimentation and rotation as DC tries new things against Cambridge in the Cup.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:12:02 GMT
Early days but would hope our manager will be more ruthless this season with players who continually perform poorly.
In the case of young Tom, we now have plenty of options at centrebacks and he will definately have to improve on what he offered last season. Lost his man on many occasions last season and starts off today with more of the same.
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Post by mjhgas on Aug 5, 2017 20:17:48 GMT
I'd rather hope that Brown was instructed to pull the ball back rather than smash it across the box! Wasted too many crosses today.
As for Lockyer, I'd rather our Wales U21 player played for us.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 5, 2017 20:22:14 GMT
Very frustrating game today and for me a continuation of the stuff I/We witnessed at places like Coventry and Gillingham at the end of last season. I don't like rounding on players and before anyone says it's the first game of these for gods sake, it isn't when it comes to our captain. Last season wasn't great for Tom Lockyer but he was helped when Sweeney came in and for me it's evident he needs to play alongside a ball winner. I was at Charlton away last season when he lost his marker for two goals and DC commented after the game in his interview. It was again evident today that the Charlton centre halves had been told to target Tom at set pieces and again they scored from Lockyer losing his marker. I watched Tom struggle all game physically with the opposition strong men at set pieces and their is a reason why he also never scores from our own set pieces? I still believe we need a captain on the pitch that leads us in situations like the second half today when we looked like a team lost at sea. How does the captain lead when he struggles himself on the pitch? I would really love to see Burn given a go or Broadbent and Sweeney together. You can play two centre halves both of the same strong foot, Twentyman/Yates, Terry/Ferdinand, Bruce/Palliater, Adams/Keown, Ferdinand/Vidic. The two favourites of Lockyer and Brown seem undroppable, I wouldn't be upset if either were taken out to give others ago. Brown today had 14 or 15 crossings oppurtunities and also of them were terrible. Sounded like Browner couldn't cross a road today let alone a football!! he couldn't cross a shoe lace,every time he crosses its backwards not between gk and defenders and he never take on a fullback and slows everything down Give bola a start,someone said start burn and sweeney? What was wrong with broadbent today? Looks a good player and would do well with sweeney |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:26:04 GMT
Very frustrating game today and for me a continuation of the stuff I/We witnessed at places like Coventry and Gillingham at the end of last season. I don't like rounding on players and before anyone says it's the first game of these for gods sake, it isn't when it comes to our captain. Last season wasn't great for Tom Lockyer but he was helped when Sweeney came in and for me it's evident he needs to play alongside a ball winner. I was at Charlton away last season when he lost his marker for two goals and DC commented after the game in his interview. It was again evident today that the Charlton centre halves had been told to target Tom at set pieces and again they scored from Lockyer losing his marker. I watched Tom struggle all game physically with the opposition strong men at set pieces and their is a reason why he also never scores from our own set pieces? I still believe we need a captain on the pitch that leads us in situations like the second half today when we looked like a team lost at sea. How does the captain lead when he struggles himself on the pitch? I would really love to see Burn given a go or Broadbent and Sweeney together. You can play two centre halves both of the same strong foot, Twentyman/Yates, Terry/Ferdinand, Bruce/Palliater, Adams/Keown, Ferdinand/Vidic. The two favourites of Lockyer and Brown seem undroppable, I wouldn't be upset if either were taken out to give others ago. Brown today had 14 or 15 crossings oppurtunities and also of them were terrible. But that not how DC likes to set up and he seems pretty stubborn about matching a right-footer with a left-footer despite the evidence this is not always necessary. DC works in mysterious ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:28:42 GMT
Sounded like Browner couldn't cross a road today let alone a football!! he couldn't cross a shoe lace,every time he crosses its backwards not between gk and defenders and he never take on a fullback and slows everything down Give bola a start,someone said start burn and sweeney? What was wrong with broadbent today? Looks a good player and would do well with sweeney Makes sense to me but I doubt DC would try this in a league game somehow. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Aug 5, 2017 20:30:38 GMT
100% agree with op.
Me and the boy fall out about tom all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:30:49 GMT
Charlton homework done, dejavu, a captain and centre half has to be better than this
And today
Defensive errors cost you games, this boy is getting prone to this.
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Post by Nortongashead on Aug 5, 2017 20:31:35 GMT
This season DC will have to be more ruthless. I thought most of our senior players let us down today. The quality into the final third was embarrassing to say the least. Tom lost his marker agreed but no way was that a goal. Bad day tbf got give Charlton credit for grinding it out with 10.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 5, 2017 20:41:04 GMT
Good post OP and I would have to agree with you, Lockyer and Brown just don't seem as undroppable as they have been in previous seasons. For me I would like to see a centerback partnership of Sweeney and Burn next match. Burn hasn't been given enough of a chance to show what's he's all about so far, he was rated at Kilmarnock before he got injured and is of a good age. Bola is another who I think could break into the starting eleven and do well, looked good in pre season and has the attacking abilities that brown does not have aswell as being a good defender. DC has some tough decisions to make before the two games next week and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of experimentation and rotation as DC tries new things against Cambridge in the Cup. Decision for DC over the week. Although I agree with you about Burn getting a chance, after today's performance Broadbent would be very unlucky to be dropped. I thought he was very good and was almost MOM for me. He wasnt put off when Charlton were pressing him at corners and seemed comfortable on the ball. UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 20:50:15 GMT
Good post OP and I would have to agree with you, Lockyer and Brown just don't seem as undroppable as they have been in previous seasons. For me I would like to see a centerback partnership of Sweeney and Burn next match. Burn hasn't been given enough of a chance to show what's he's all about so far, he was rated at Kilmarnock before he got injured and is of a good age. Bola is another who I think could break into the starting eleven and do well, looked good in pre season and has the attacking abilities that brown does not have aswell as being a good defender. DC has some tough decisions to make before the two games next week and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of experimentation and rotation as DC tries new things against Cambridge in the Cup. Decision for DC over the week. Although I agree with you about Burn getting a chance, after today's performance Broadbent would be very unlucky to be dropped. I thought he was very good and was almost MOM for me. He wasnt put off when Charlton were pressing him at corners and seemed comfortable on the ball. UTG! Don't see why Broadbent should be dropped bar Sweeney needed game time. Captain for me on Tuesday night, Sweeney or Sercombe. |
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 5, 2017 21:28:17 GMT
Charlton homework done, dejavu, a captain and centre half has to be better than this And today Defensive errors cost you games, this boy is getting prone to this. how the f**k was that a goal 😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 21:36:35 GMT
Regardless of if being a goal, how was he totally unmarked having a free header in our 6 yard box and as many times last season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2017 21:43:50 GMT
We lose to a goal that never was and Locks has to be dropped after one game even though Charlton never really looked like scoring for most of the match. I think DC has more things to worry about than Locks TBH, as to play 85 mins against 10 men and not create one decent chance is major worry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 21:48:49 GMT
We lose to a goal that never was and Locks has to be dropped after one game even though Charlton never really looked like scoring for most of the match. I think DC has more things to worry about than Locks TBH, as to play 85 mins against 10 men and not create one decent chance is major worry. DC mentions in his post match interview we switched off at a set peice for their goal. I clearly said my opinion isn't based on one game, see the highlights above from last seasons encounter at the Valley. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 22:25:35 GMT
I thought tom and sweeney formed a very effective partnership last season so this "carrying the captain" thing is rubbish imo.
Gary cahill had a great season last year at chelsea but if i went through all the chelsea highlights i could easily post a couple videos of mistakes and claim that chelsea were carrying him.
It wouldnt be true of course but never mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 22:31:06 GMT
I thought tom and sweeney formed a very effective partnership last season so this "carrying the captain" thing is rubbish imo. Gary cahill had a great season last year at chelsea but if i went through all the chelsea highlights i could easily post a couple videos of mistakes and claim that chelsea were carrying him. It wouldnt be true of course but never mind. Why can't he form an effective partnership with others? Why does it have to be Sweeney? He should be able to play with anyone and his weakness is attacking the ball in both boxes but many players his size can jump and win the ball and read the flight of the ball as well still. Hinton comes to mind as does Steve Yates |
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