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Post by paulpirate on Aug 13, 2017 12:49:12 GMT
I honestly believe this tweak could provide results with Telford on the bench to provide impact when needed. why not give him a start? What's the point of bringing him in otherwise? Can't be worse than Ellis
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 13, 2017 12:51:36 GMT
Brown pretty much sums up our oroblem atm though. He is just so slow on the ball and we are predictable as a team. Attacking it maybe but I would love to see Leads and Bola either side as fullbacks for a game or two. I can definitely see them both as wingbacks at some point. Leads was awful yesterday. Along with many others. At least he offers us an outlet. Something which is inportant in a team which I think is lacking in pace.
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Post by baggins on Aug 13, 2017 12:54:50 GMT
Leads was awful yesterday. Along with many others. At least he offers us an outlet. Something which is inportant in a team which I think is lacking in pace. But Leads has done just that, lost his pace. Got a feeling he's carrying an injury but he got caught big time for their opener. As for the rest, nothing to say to be honest.
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Post by ansell1 on Aug 13, 2017 13:39:36 GMT
Smith/ Slocombe - Smith didn't do much wrong. tried to punch a ball he could have caught but apart from that looked good. Slocombe is good on reputation. DC wok have a job to keep both happy. If personally let Slocombe play in all the cup games if Smith is the first choice for league at the moment. Defenders RB) Leabitter - good player there, off day yesterday perhaps feeling his injury still. CB) Sweeney - Wash brilliant yesterday but he can't carry the rest at such a young age. CB) Lockyer - think the captain role isn't for him really, good defender needs to focus on that. LB) Bola/Partington - Both unknown but just to mix it up a bit Midfield RM) Bodin - Best player in the side. Most dangerous from out wide as he can run with the ball and cut in. CM) Ollie Clarke - Impressed last season CM) Sercombe - Played some clever football, making intelligent passes. LM) Don't know really - We need a winger. Forwards Nichols - Not a strong player, but looked good on the ball and got in the right places to take a shot. Gaffeney or Telford - Gaffeney is better player than Harrison. Telford reminds me of the snake from what over seem on internet, and Stoke seem rate him quite highly. Must have been a a different game yesterday I would hate to see some of them on a bad day !
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2017 13:47:19 GMT
Smith/ Slocombe - Smith didn't do much wrong. tried to punch a ball he could have caught but apart from that looked good. Slocombe is good on reputation. DC wok have a job to keep both happy. If personally let Slocombe play in all the cup games if Smith is the first choice for league at the moment. Defenders RB) Leabitter - good player there, off day yesterday perhaps feeling his injury still. CB) Sweeney - Wash brilliant yesterday but he can't carry the rest at such a young age. CB) Lockyer - think the captain role isn't for him really, good defender needs to focus on that. LB) Bola/Partington - Both unknown but just to mix it up a bit Midfield RM) Bodin - Best player in the side. Most dangerous from out wide as he can run with the ball and cut in. CM) Ollie Clarke - Impressed last season CM) Sercombe - Played some clever football, making intelligent passes. LM) Don't know really - We need a winger. Forwards Nichols - Not a strong player, but looked good on the ball and got in the right places to take a shot. Gaffeney or Telford - Gaffeney is better player than Harrison. Telford reminds me of the snake from what over seem on internet, and Stoke seem rate him quite highly. Must have been a a different game yesterday I would hate to see some of them on a bad day ! who are you talking about?
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Post by pirate on Aug 13, 2017 13:59:13 GMT
Smith/ Slocombe - Smith didn't do much wrong. tried to punch a ball he could have caught but apart from that looked good. Slocombe is good on reputation. DC wok have a job to keep both happy. If personally let Slocombe play in all the cup games if Smith is the first choice for league at the moment. Defenders RB) Leabitter - good player there, off day yesterday perhaps feeling his injury still. CB) Sweeney - Wash brilliant yesterday but he can't carry the rest at such a young age. CB) Lockyer - think the captain role isn't for him really, good defender needs to focus on that. LB) Bola/Partington - Both unknown but just to mix it up a bit Midfield RM) Bodin - Best player in the side. Most dangerous from out wide as he can run with the ball and cut in. CM) Ollie Clarke - Impressed last season CM) Sercombe - Played some clever football, making intelligent passes. LM) Don't know really - We need a winger. Forwards Nichols - Not a strong player, but looked good on the ball and got in the right places to take a shot. Gaffeney or Telford - Gaffeney is better player than Harrison. Telford reminds me of the snake from what over seem on internet, and Stoke seem rate him quite highly. Sweeney was brilliant, apart from being partly at fault for at least two of the goals and hoofing numerous aimless long balls/giving possession away too easily. Looked very sluggish to me, hopefully just a one off. Nichols definitely needs to strengthen up a bit, his shooting lacked any power and he got bullied by their defence numerous times. Maybe he is one of the powder puff and mentally weak players DC spoke about after the game, after all he did leave Peterborough because he got a bit of stick from the fans, bless him.
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Post by ansell1 on Aug 13, 2017 14:14:41 GMT
Smith/ Slocombe - Smith didn't do much wrong. tried to punch a ball he could have caught but apart from that looked good. Slocombe is good on reputation. DC wok have a job to keep both happy. If personally let Slocombe play in all the cup games if Smith is the first choice for league at the moment. Defenders RB) Leabitter - good player there, off day yesterday perhaps feeling his injury still. CB) Sweeney - Wash brilliant yesterday but he can't carry the rest at such a young age. CB) Lockyer - think the captain role isn't for him really, good defender needs to focus on that. LB) Bola/Partington - Both unknown but just to mix it up a bit Midfield RM) Bodin - Best player in the side. Most dangerous from out wide as he can run with the ball and cut in. CM) Ollie Clarke - Impressed last season CM) Sercombe - Played some clever football, making intelligent passes. LM) Don't know really - We need a winger. Forwards Nichols - Not a strong player, but looked good on the ball and got in the right places to take a shot. Gaffeney or Telford - Gaffeney is better player than Harrison. Telford reminds me of the snake from what over seem on internet, and Stoke seem rate him quite highly. Sweeney was brilliant, apart from being partly at fault for at least two of the goals and hoofing numerous aimless long balls/giving possession away too easily. Looked very sluggish to me, hopefully just a one off. Nichols definitely needs to strengthen up a bit, his shooting lacked any power and he got bullied by their defence numerous times. Maybe he is one of the powder puff and mentally weak players DC spoke about after the game, after all he did leave Peterborough because he got a bit of stick from the fans, bless him. No need to say any more ! you have your answer right there !
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2017 14:27:11 GMT
Sweeney was brilliant, apart from being partly at fault for at least two of the goals and hoofing numerous aimless long balls/giving possession away too easily. Looked very sluggish to me, hopefully just a one off. Nichols definitely needs to strengthen up a bit, his shooting lacked any power and he got bullied by their defence numerous times. Maybe he is one of the powder puff and mentally weak players DC spoke about after the game, after all he did leave Peterborough because he got a bit of stick from the fans, bless him. No need to say any more ! you have your answer right there ! As did the rest of our back 4. No leaders, Sweeney definitely wasn't the worst of 4. Nicholls up front with someone like Harrison, no wonder, Harriosn offers so little he might as well ok have been up front by himself and we played with 10.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 13, 2017 14:56:07 GMT
No need to say any more ! you have your answer right there ! As did the rest of our back 4. No leaders, Sweeney definitely wasn't the worst of 4. Nicholls up front with someone like Harrison, no wonder, Harriosn offers so little he might as well ok have been up front by himself and we played with 10. Disagree, Sweeney was the weakest link at the back yesterday. Awful block / clearance which gifted Posh the lead, an even worse pass gifted them the second and I've no idea why he ran towards the front post on the 4th when Lockyer was already there leaving their guy a simple finish for his hat-trick. His distribution was also woeful. I'd be surprised if he's played many worse games than that but the signs were there against Cambridge because he even looked shakey and unsure in that game. He's always lacked pace, that's nothing new but he doesn't look the same player we had last season. Leadbitter wasn't far behind. Badly caught out in the build up to the first and all the goals came down his side. His crossing was also very poor. Lockyer too had a poor game but was not as bad as Sweeney or Leadbitter on the day. It makes me laugh that some people seem to think Brown is the only one who needs dropping when not one of the goals came from attacks down his side and he's already directly set up 3 of our 5 goals this season. He's the only one of the back 4 who is doing okay.
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Post by pirate on Aug 13, 2017 15:00:04 GMT
As did the rest of our back 4. No leaders, Sweeney definitely wasn't the worst of 4. Nicholls up front with someone like Harrison, no wonder, Harriosn offers so little he might as well ok have been up front by himself and we played with 10. Disagree, Sweeney was the weakest link at the back yesterday. Awful block / clearance which gifted Posh the lead, an even worse pass gifted them the second and I've no idea why he ran towards the front post on the 4th when Lockyer was already there leaving their guy a simple finish for his hat-trick. His distribution was also woeful. I'd be surprised if he's played many worse games than that but the signs were there against Cambridge because he even looked shakey and unsure in that game. He's always lacked pace, that's nothing new but he doesn't look the same player we had last season. Leadbitter wasn't far behind. Badly caught out in the build up to the first and all the goals came down his side. His crossing was also very poor. Lockyer too had a poor game but was not as bad as Sweeney or Leadbitter on the day. It makes me laugh that some people seem to think Brown is the only one who needs dropping when not one of the goals came from attacks down his side and he's already directly set up 3 of our 5 goals. He's the only one of the back 4 who is doing okay. Agree with all of that. Brown has looked ok to me, as you say he has 3 assists from our 5 goals and put in a couple of other decent crosses that someone should have been on the end of.
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Post by ansell1 on Aug 13, 2017 15:03:55 GMT
As did the rest of our back 4. No leaders, Sweeney definitely wasn't the worst of 4. Nicholls up front with someone like Harrison, no wonder, Harriosn offers so little he might as well ok have been up front by himself and we played with 10. Disagree, Sweeney was the weakest link at the back yesterday. Awful block / clearance which gifted Posh the lead, an even worse pass gifted them the second and I've no idea why he ran towards the front post on the 4th when Lockyer was already there leaving their guy a simple finish for his hat-trick. His distribution was also woeful. I'd be surprised if he's played many worse games than that but the signs were there against Cambridge because he even looked shakey and unsure in that game. He's always lacked pace, that's nothing new but he doesn't look the same player we had last season. Leadbitter wasn't far behind. Badly caught out in the build up to the first and all the goals came down his side. His crossing was also very poor. Lockyer too had a poor game but was not as bad as Sweeney or Leadbitter on the day. It makes me laugh that some people seem to think Brown is the only one who needs dropping when not one of the goals came from attacks down his side and he's already directly set up 3 of our 5 goals this season. He's the only one of the back 4 who is doing okay. Well said !! you can't add to that spot on in every way !!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:42:58 GMT
I honestly believe this tweak could provide results with Telford on the bench to provide impact when needed. why not give him a start? What's the point of bringing him in otherwise? Can't be worse than Ellis because in my selected team if I started him I'd have to drop bodin and I'd prefer to bring Telford on if BB played like yesterday but I'd still give BB's undoubted quality the chance to shine first!
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 13, 2017 16:30:13 GMT
why not give him a start? What's the point of bringing him in otherwise? Can't be worse than Ellis because in my selected team if I started him I'd have to drop bodin and I'd prefer to bring Telford on if BB played like yesterday but I'd still give BB's undoubted quality the chance to shine first! i wasn't questioning your squad I just don't get why we would bring him in if they're not good enough to start when we struggle up top
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 14, 2017 13:13:33 GMT
Thought I'd have ago: Assuming Leads is carrying a knock and so isn't available:
Slocombe
Sweeney Lockyer Broadbent Parts Bola
Bodin Sercombe O Clarke
Gaffney Telford
Subs: Smith, J Clarke/Brown, Sinclair, Lines, Moore, Harrison/Brown, Nichols
If James Clarke isn't fit yet after the injury at Charlton, then Brown for him on the bench.
If Clarke is fit, then I can't decide if it's better to also have Brown on the bench to allow for a switch back to 442 or Harrison to give us another option up top - probably Harrison?
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Post by ansell1 on Aug 14, 2017 13:24:46 GMT
Thought I'd have ago: Assuming Leads is carrying a knock and so isn't available: Slocombe Sweeney Lockyer Broadbent Parts Bola Bodin Sercombe O Clarke Gaffney Telford Subs: Smith, J Clarke/Brown, Sinclair, Lines, Moore, Harrison/Brown, Nichols If James Clarke isn't fit yet after the injury at Charlton, then Brown for him on the bench. If Clarke is fit, then I can't decide if it's better to also have Brown on the bench to allow for a switch back to 442 or Harrison to give us another option up top - probably Harrison? Like the look of that much better balance to the team much stronger at the back but it also give the attacking option !! I would go with that if nothing else it might stop us leaking goals !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:36:33 GMT
Thought I'd have ago: Assuming Leads is carrying a knock and so isn't available: Slocombe Sweeney Lockyer Broadbent Parts Bola Bodin Sercombe O Clarke Gaffney Telford Subs: Smith, J Clarke/Brown, Sinclair, Lines, Moore, Harrison/Brown, Nichols If James Clarke isn't fit yet after the injury at Charlton, then Brown for him on the bench. If Clarke is fit, then I can't decide if it's better to also have Brown on the bench to allow for a switch back to 442 or Harrison to give us another option up top - probably Harrison? Thats the same starting line up I had in mind think Telford is gonna be the surprise package this season as was Sweeney last season I just hope Saturday was a one off for Sweeney he wasn't at his best
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Post by hardingegas on Aug 14, 2017 21:20:20 GMT
Don't really like 5-3-2 but if it's short term then ok. I don't think Sweeney should have been brought in at the expense of Broadbent - hadn't been involved in pre-season with us so should have been on the bench. The major problem is up front - was it Holloway who said you're only as good as you're strikers? So, for me it's got to be Gaffney instead of Harrison, until we can afford either a pacy front man or a big bruiser - someone to worry the defences and put them under pressure then the likes of Nicholls came come good.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 15, 2017 12:07:37 GMT
Smith Lockyer Sweeney Broadbent Moore Sercombe O Clarke Bola Bodin Nicholls Gaffney slocombe,Telford,Harrison,Lines,Partington,j Clarke ,Sinclair. This
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2017 15:08:26 GMT
So we drop our only consistent defender this season in Brown, play Moore at right back even though he had an absolute shocker in a similar role when brought on at Walsall but leave Partington on the bench even though he cost us £80K? We also move Bodin from his favoured position!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:22:37 GMT
So we drop our only consistent defender this season in Brown, play Moore at right back even though he had an absolute shocker in a similar role when brought on at Walsall but leave Partington on the bench even though he cost us £80K? We also move Bodin from his favoured position! They would be wing backs with the three centrebacks, still not sure Moore would be better than Leadbitter or Partington but would like to see what Bola could do though.
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