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Post by womble on Aug 23, 2017 13:24:54 GMT
Complete assumption on my part. I do believe there is a difference between a rich man jizzing his cash away and a family of investment bankers who are doing feasibility studies and evolving rather than revolutionising. Pantsdown is bankrolling them and building what ever he likes because he feels like it. Do you see no difference in the 2 Bristol club owners? Fortune favours the brave and SL didn't make his billions being daft. All it will take is one season in the prem and he's quids in. He maybe many things but he's an astute businessman and is doing all he can to further the club AND he own outlay There's no way SL is in it expecting to make money. Just like the rest of us if we had that amount of money, he owns a football club because it's his passion and his hobby. City's yearly losses are not going to reduce his bank balance, as his income comfortably exceeds them. A look at the Premier League finances shows that you'd be far better off just leaving your money in a bank. In most cases you'd make more money in interest than you would from investing in a football club. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-club
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2017 13:27:37 GMT
Fortune favours the brave and SL didn't make his billions being daft. All it will take is one season in the prem and he's quids in. He maybe many things but he's an astute businessman and is doing all he can to further the club AND he own outlay There's no way SL is in it expecting to make money. Just like the rest of us if we had that amount of money, he owns a football club because it's his passion and his hobby. City's yearly losses are not going to reduce his bank balance, as his income comfortably exceeds them. A look at the Premier League finances shows that you'd be far better off just leaving your money in a bank. In most cases you'd make more money in interest than you would from investing in a football club. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-clubI agree but was just stating that all it woukd take it one season of prem and he'd get his outlay back if he wants it or not
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Post by Marshy on Aug 23, 2017 13:40:41 GMT
I'll donate £10 to the FFS Club if this thread reaches 27 pages. In b4 anyone shouts - And there it is 27 pages! Already paid.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 23, 2017 14:14:57 GMT
I'll donate £10 to the FFS Club if this thread reaches 27 pages. In b4 anyone shouts - And there it is 27 pages! Already paid. They way the bull is flying around on here we could be going for a record page count
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Post by knowall on Aug 23, 2017 14:35:10 GMT
I really would like you to tell me whose money the owners have spent? It has come from their pocket, not yours or mine or anybody else's. If you are saying because they have a charge against the asset which is the Mem it is not their money you are wrong. It is still their money. You then say Lansdown has spent his money - exactly right and just like the Al-Qadi's SL has a charge against the asset which is AG. SL may have more money than our owners but they are all spending their own money. Please tell me what the difference is? The difference is that the money spent on trashton does not even equate to one-year's interest on the rosy cheeked feckers 1.5 billion capital. That same amount of money would probably make a bit of a dent in the fortune's of the AQ family. You just cannot compare the AQ family v SL. Typical - answer the wrong question - the accusation was that the Al-Qadi's are not spending their own money - my question 'whose money is it then?' and as THEY ARE spending their own money as is SL what is the difference? I did not ask whose prick (fortune) is bigger - but as usual, someone makes that comparison and wouldn't you know it would be someone who calls himself Nobby!
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Aug 23, 2017 14:54:31 GMT
You don't have to believe in a mystery consortium in order to be sceptical about what our owners are actually going to deliver. The two don't have to be connected in any way, but several on here seem to think that anyone expressing concern about the future, also fervently believes in The Consortium v 2.0 Probably because they've been fed information by certain people who may have their own interest in how things shape up. Someone at Rovers appears happy to destabilise the current owners. Whether they are really looking out for Rovers or themselves is yet to be determined. This is 100% spot on and I would say some people have their own interests at heart not ours
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 23, 2017 14:56:00 GMT
Fortune favours the brave and SL didn't make his billions being daft. All it will take is one season in the prem and he's quids in. He maybe many things but he's an astute businessman and is doing all he can to further the club AND he own outlay There's no way SL is in it expecting to make money. Just like the rest of us if we had that amount of money, he owns a football club because it's his passion and his hobby. City's yearly losses are not going to reduce his bank balance, as his income comfortably exceeds them. A look at the Premier League finances shows that you'd be far better off just leaving your money in a bank. In most cases you'd make more money in interest than you would from investing in a football club. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-clubPantsdown has probably invested about £300 milllion so far in BCFC and he is closer to L1 where he first started than the premier league. A rich owner tossing money at a club via directors of football, managers and playing staff doesn't guarantee you success. A well run, thought out club with a good infrastructure does reap rewards. Look at Stoke, Brighton and Bournemouth. We have never had a rich enough owner that could put the right infrastructure in place. Now we have and they are in the process of doing it but it all takes time. i think in 18 months we have come miles and the real money has been invested in Darrel and who he wants and needs in his backroom team. If DC had no confidence in the owners he would be long gone. I am sure he has been given his reassurances by the owners regarding the stadium plans.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 23, 2017 18:00:49 GMT
There's no way SL is in it expecting to make money. Just like the rest of us if we had that amount of money, he owns a football club because it's his passion and his hobby. City's yearly losses are not going to reduce his bank balance, as his income comfortably exceeds them. A look at the Premier League finances shows that you'd be far better off just leaving your money in a bank. In most cases you'd make more money in interest than you would from investing in a football club. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-clubPantsdown has probably invested about £300 milllion so far in BCFC and he is closer to L1 where he first started than the premier league. A rich owner tossing money at a club via directors of football, managers and playing staff doesn't guarantee you success. A well run, thought out club with a good infrastructure does reap rewards. Look at Stoke, Brighton and Bournemouth. We have never had a rich enough owner that could put the right infrastructure in place. Now we have and they are in the process of doing it but it all takes time. i think in 18 months we have come miles and the real money has been invested in Darrel and who he wants and needs in his backroom team. If DC had no confidence in the owners he would be long gone. I am sure he has been given his reassurances by the owners regarding the stadium plans. Brighton & Bournemouth both had/have extremely wealthy owners
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 23, 2017 18:08:10 GMT
Pantsdown has probably invested about £300 milllion so far in BCFC and he is closer to L1 where he first started than the premier league. A rich owner tossing money at a club via directors of football, managers and playing staff doesn't guarantee you success. A well run, thought out club with a good infrastructure does reap rewards. Look at Stoke, Brighton and Bournemouth. We have never had a rich enough owner that could put the right infrastructure in place. Now we have and they are in the process of doing it but it all takes time. i think in 18 months we have come miles and the real money has been invested in Darrel and who he wants and needs in his backroom team. If DC had no confidence in the owners he would be long gone. I am sure he has been given his reassurances by the owners regarding the stadium plans. Brighton & Bournemouth both had/have extremely wealthy owners i thought we did
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Post by Marshy on Aug 23, 2017 18:26:12 GMT
Brighton & Bournemouth both had/have extremely wealthy owners i thought we did We do! Their moto is - What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 23, 2017 18:28:42 GMT
There's no way SL is in it expecting to make money. Just like the rest of us if we had that amount of money, he owns a football club because it's his passion and his hobby. City's yearly losses are not going to reduce his bank balance, as his income comfortably exceeds them. A look at the Premier League finances shows that you'd be far better off just leaving your money in a bank. In most cases you'd make more money in interest than you would from investing in a football club. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-clubPantsdown has probably invested about £300 milllion so far in BCFC and he is closer to L1 where he first started than the premier league. A rich owner tossing money at a club via directors of football, managers and playing staff doesn't guarantee you success. A well run, thought out club with a good infrastructure does reap rewards. Look at Stoke, Brighton and Bournemouth. We have never had a rich enough owner that could put the right infrastructure in place. Now we have and they are in the process of doing it but it all takes time. i think in 18 months we have come miles and the real money has been invested in Darrel and who he wants and needs in his backroom team. If DC had no confidence in the owners he would be long gone. I am sure he has been given his reassurances by the owners regarding the stadium plans. Or perhaps the fact he's got the security of a decent 5 years contract means he's content to stay at Rovers regardless as to what's going on with the stadium plans.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 23, 2017 18:33:46 GMT
The difference is that the money spent on trashton does not even equate to one-year's interest on the rosy cheeked feckers 1.5 billion capital. That same amount of money would probably make a bit of a dent in the fortune's of the AQ family. You just cannot compare the AQ family v SL. Typical - answer the wrong question - the accusation was that the Al-Qadi's are not spending their own money - my question 'whose money is it then?' and as THEY ARE spending their own money as is SL what is the difference? I did not ask whose prick (fortune) is bigger - but as usual, someone makes that comparison and wouldn't you know it would be someone who calls himself Nobby! Am i missing something or are they just spending their money against the Mem value/offsetting it against the club debts, NH apparently spent millions of his won money during his tenure but seems to be getting it all back from the ALQ's. The only danger is Rovers going into Admin but that seems unlikely.
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Post by baggins on Aug 23, 2017 18:35:26 GMT
We do! Their moto is - What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own. Like a Wife.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 18:41:18 GMT
This is correct. The difference is...unless SL leaves a big dollop of cash for BCFC1982LTD. in his will they will have no sustainable business model to take them forward in the future. It could be 1982 all over again for the robins. The Al Qadis are seemingly building the club so it can sustain itself and therefore will not need a sugar daddy to constantly pour money into it. Potentially BRFC have a better long term future under the current two regimes.
It would seem that most on here would rather (or expected) us to have an owner like Pantsdown. It's very frustrating to see what he's done for them while we get a new pasty stand. Don't knock it,there will be some who would relish a new pasty stand.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 23, 2017 18:54:47 GMT
It would seem that most on here would rather (or expected) us to have an owner like Pantsdown. It's very frustrating to see what he's done for them while we get a new pasty stand. Don't knock it,there will be some who would relish a new pasty stand. Can't wait for a pasty at Saturdays game.
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Post by baggins on Aug 23, 2017 19:01:02 GMT
Don't knock it,there will be some who would relish a new pasty stand. Can't wait for a pasty at Saturdays game. They've just started warming them up, should be nicely vile by Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:05:22 GMT
This is correct. The difference is...unless SL leaves a big dollop of cash for BCFC1982LTD. in his will they will have no sustainable business model to take them forward in the future. It could be 1982 all over again for the robins. The Al Qadis are seemingly building the club so it can sustain itself and therefore will not need a sugar daddy to constantly pour money into it. Potentially BRFC have a better long term future under the current two regimes.
If that turns out to be case - which I doubt they will have a much better platform to move forward against than what we have, or are even likely to have in the medium term future. SL's son who may well inherit some or part of his father's fortune/empire is heavily involved with the club now and is clearly a supporter. Without wishing to sound in any way envious I would much rather be in their position thinking about a sustainable future than I am with ours. Wael/Hani's father is an elderly man - who knows what's going to happen when he passes on. How you can possibly believe that potentially our club has a better long term future under the current regimes is beyond comprehension frankly. beyond comprehension...haha...nothing like a forum for exaggerations. Lansdowne junior may be a fool with money ..who knows...he might make bad investments and frizzle the family fortune away in a matter of years. I don't know what will happen when mr Al Qadi senior eventually passes on .However as the purchase of the club was a family investment agreed by all then im sure they have made future plans. All I can say is BCFC were still trying to sell their £75 executive packages for the Aston villa game in two days time. If they are struggling to sell them against a big club like villa then how many do they sell against Burton ? If BRFC is set up carefully with long term goals it can thrive without relying on gifts. City fans have always mocked Rovers as always wanting things for free,the irony is all they have now...the ground the expensive signings are being given to them for free from a benefactor and not being earned by the "club". Im sure SL didn't want it that way ,that's why he wanted a new stadium. One that could create some sustainability for them,as it is he has made the best he can out of trashton.Whether that is the best potential the site has is another thing. Dave Whelan(wigan) tried to retire and hand the business down but soon had to take over again as those he passed it onto were not so good as he was. A formula for success is better than a one off star.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 23, 2017 20:48:22 GMT
We do! Their moto is - What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own. to me to me to me
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Post by baggins on Aug 23, 2017 21:00:33 GMT
We do! Their moto is - What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own. to me to me to me To you.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 23, 2017 21:18:51 GMT
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