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Post by LJG on Aug 23, 2017 13:01:47 GMT
But ... we haven't. Unless dragonfly is Wael or Hanni's username. Expectations. Is your expectation really that we're going to have to "Buy a Brick"? If it is I have to ask why? The owners say the finance is in place - other than rumours from the usual "sources", who have a track record of nothing but repeating (in my opinion just plain making up) stories which are exclusively destabilising for the club (notice how none of these rumours have any positive output for the club or its incumbent owners) with no supporting evidence.
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Post by LJG on Aug 23, 2017 13:03:22 GMT
What could happen is for the club to appeal to gasheads in the trade to perform the install..I'm in the commercial roofing game and I would be happy to install any of it for a standard daywork rate and go the extra mile etc and I'm sure there's brickies and chippies etc that would do the same along with gas network!!! I like it. Can you explain how that will make any difference whatsoever to our current situation please?
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Post by dragonfly on Aug 23, 2017 13:32:02 GMT
Can you explain how that will make any difference whatsoever to our current situation please? I like the idea that someone is prepared to offer their services to the Club. Solutions to our plight could be found in part from Supporters via donations. The problem is that we can only offer support, ideas and money as the control over events is in the hands of the owners. If the owners only wanted a short term fix at the Mem then perhaps our roofer and others may have a role.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 23, 2017 13:34:31 GMT
The other consortium is coming to save us and build UWE without thinking about and never expecting a penny back or something
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 13:58:10 GMT
Can you explain how that will make any difference whatsoever to our current situation please? I like the idea that someone is prepared to offer their services to the Club. Solutions to our plight could be found in part from Supporters via donations. The problem is that we can only offer support, ideas and money as the control over events is in the hands of the owners. If the owners only wanted a short term fix at the Mem then perhaps our roofer and others may have a role. I don't think you are grabbing the enormity of what's required here!!!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 23, 2017 14:12:00 GMT
Is your expectation really that we're going to have to "Buy a Brick"? If it is I have to ask why? The owners say the finance is in place - other than rumours from the usual "sources", who have a track record of nothing but repeating (in my opinion just plain making up) stories which are exclusively destabilising for the club (notice how none of these rumours have any positive output for the club or its incumbent owners) with no supporting evidence. No, that's not my expectations. Clearly it is that of some of our fans. My original post was simply pointing out the bipolar nature of posters here and almost all of it based off rumors and complete bollocks. I tend to prefer facts, but we don't seem to get many of those and when we do no one believes them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 14:25:58 GMT
This thread is embarassing and open to ridicule!!!
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Post by LJG on Aug 23, 2017 14:44:03 GMT
Can you explain how that will make any difference whatsoever to our current situation please? I like the idea that someone is prepared to offer their services to the Club. Solutions to our plight could be found in part from Supporters via donations. The problem is that we can only offer support, ideas and money as the control over events is in the hands of the owners. If the owners only wanted a short term fix at the Mem then perhaps our roofer and others may have a role. I don't understand how a solution to our plight can be found via supporter donations? Isn't our problem that we don't have a site to build on rather than a lack of funding to start the building?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 14:51:10 GMT
We have Arabian Investment Bankers as owners of our club and the suggestion is we effectively have a whip round to raise a few quid and employ a part time (presumably for the pasty hut) roofer. This has got to be a crank up surely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 14:51:13 GMT
Whilst I understand where the op is coming from this simply cannot happen. Even with a small domestic extension CDM regulations apply. A principal designer and contractor need to be appointed and procedures followed. Tradesmen cannot simply rock up with a tool bag and say "where do you want me guv?" This could work with regards to small maintenance issues but to think we could even build one stand in such a way is pie in the sky I'm afraid.
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Post by dragonfly on Aug 23, 2017 15:08:35 GMT
I like the idea that someone is prepared to offer their services to the Club. Solutions to our plight could be found in part from Supporters via donations. The problem is that we can only offer support, ideas and money as the control over events is in the hands of the owners. If the owners only wanted a short term fix at the Mem then perhaps our roofer and others may have a role. I don't understand how a solution to our plight can be found via supporter donations? Isn't our problem that we don't have a site to build on rather than a lack of funding to start the building? Well I did not say the solution was wholly down to donations. We have a site to build on and I await the plans with interest. Supporters may wish to donate to help further those plans. Try approaching the owners if you think an alternative site is more desirable, but it could set us back many more years.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 23, 2017 15:10:34 GMT
Anyone heard from the supporters club lately?
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Post by xplosivgas on Aug 23, 2017 15:12:24 GMT
I like the idea that someone is prepared to offer their services to the Club. Solutions to our plight could be found in part from Supporters via donations. The problem is that we can only offer support, ideas and money as the control over events is in the hands of the owners. If the owners only wanted a short term fix at the Mem then perhaps our roofer and others may have a role. I don't understand how a solution to our plight can be found via supporter donations? Isn't our problem that we don't have a site to build on rather than a lack of funding to start the building? I thought our problem is that we have owners who got fed up negotiating with UWE so decided to pull out after setting a final deadline, rather than fighting it out until the bitter end. If the finance was in place, I'd have thought the investors might feel a little peeved at that. Are the owners saying the investors remain on board regardless of what the next plan is thought up? I'd be surprised if any external investment remained in place.
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Post by LJG on Aug 23, 2017 15:24:28 GMT
I don't understand how a solution to our plight can be found via supporter donations? Isn't our problem that we don't have a site to build on rather than a lack of funding to start the building? I thought our problem is that we have owners who got fed up negotiating with UWE so decided to pull out after setting a final deadline, rather than fighting it out until the bitter end. If the finance was in place, I'd have thought the investors might feel a little peeved at that. Are the owners saying the investors remain on board regardless of what the next plan is thought up? I'd be surprised if any external investment remained in place. Well, again, we aren't party to the detail on whether or not the finance was external or otherwise so this is really just more supposition. I don't really understand your point about fighting anything out to the bitter end. They were negotiating a property sale or lease not having a boxing match. If you're at the stage of fighting anything out you're almost certainly about to do a bad deal or over-spending on getting what you think is a good deal.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 23, 2017 15:37:30 GMT
So we've gone from a Cat 2 training ground and brand new purpose built stadium to "Buy a Brick"?? I'm so fed up with us being so sh**e. Got to agree with this. I still don't understand why so much time and money was wasted and, apart from a pasture in Hambrook, nothing has really changed ~ and I'm not sure of the evolution not demolition of the men.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 23, 2017 16:00:19 GMT
So we've gone from a Cat 2 training ground and brand new purpose built stadium to "Buy a Brick"?? I'm so fed up with us being so sh**e. Why you wouldn't want to support the team and club any way you can is beyond me. I get fed up with people on here spending the owner's money on the team they say they've supported all their lives. The current board have invested plenty of money already, and I'd leave it to them to decide how they're going to spend their money in the future. I for one would decide to spend my money on supporting this, meagre as it is.
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 23, 2017 16:00:50 GMT
Whilst I understand where the op is coming from this simply cannot happen. Even with a small domestic extension CDM regulations apply. A principal designer and contractor need to be appointed and procedures followed. Tradesmen cannot simply rock up with a tool bag and say "where do you want me guv?" This could work with regards to small maintenance issues but to think we could even build one stand in such a way is pie in the sky I'm afraid. I never said I would turn up with "tools in a bag, where do you want me"! I meant the club could offer any gasheads the option to tender for the projects and everyone would work to the specs given etc and would have to be passed off...im not talking about someone who says they can lay bricks with no backing...there will be gasheads who own companies that install everything to a high standard...my personal company was part of exeter chiefs installation to the extension and refurbishment...having gasheads and whoever on gas network would make it cheaper than having other such companies...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 16:17:10 GMT
OTIB boners
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Post by pirate49 on Aug 23, 2017 16:20:12 GMT
Anyone heard from the supporters club lately? They issued a fulsome apology just a week or so ago. For not issuing a statement once the embezzlement court case was over?.....NO For lack of communication with and from the SC Directors?....NO For not giving wide notice of the forthcoming AGM and details of how to stand for office?.....NO For not publicising that you can no longer reach their site through the OS?.....NO BUT... For the Two Mile Hill Shop being closed one day when it should have been open?..........YES!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 16:44:14 GMT
But ... we haven't. Unless dragonfly is Wael or Hanni's username. Expectations. I would buy a family brick ... see the name on a wall of Rovers fans would be pretty cool. Hopefully be there long after I'm gone. Maybe a good reminder to our owners that 'We' are part of our Club!! If i thought they could work it out I would suggest a 10% discount at the pasty hut if you were a Family brick owner ... ( people on here working out already how many pasties they would need to scoff to get their money back in a season )
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