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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2017 20:00:19 GMT
Following on from SH's Mem update he's now given a similar one for The Colony which, if taken at face value, sounds promising: Bristol Rovers chairman Steve Hamer has explained exactly what stage the club are at in developing their new Colony training ground. Rovers acquired the land in February this year but have not yet submitted a planning application to South Gloucestershire Council. “The pre-planning consultation has been returned,” confirmed Hamer to the Post. “Which I’ve got to say is encouraging, I think it’s pretty favourable. The next stage now is for us to complete our planning and make that submission. Once that’s hopefully been agreed, and there is probably a bit of back forth to go with that, we can get on with it.” Many Rovers fans have been desperate for news as to when work could start at the new 30-acre site and when the club could begin training there. “I can understand people’s frustrations,” admitted Hamer. “But you always have to respect the local residents and you don’t want to be up there doing things when maybe you’ve jumped the gun or they’re not permissible. Steve Hamer, Darrell Clarke and Marcus Stewart at the Colony “It’s not that we’re dragging our heels or hiding behind bushes pretending we’ve done this or done that. You want to make sure everybody has a very clear understanding of what our intention is, and sometimes if you’re a fan of a football club you want it to happen and sometimes those within a football club, who have a responsibility of making sure all bases are covered properly, can’t be as presumptuous as you would wish.” While the new ground will obviously host both Rovers’ first team and development squads, Hamer is also keen to see the club expand when at its new home. “Tom Gorringe [commercial director] who has just joined us tells me that Brighton’s ground is only 10 acres and we’ve got 30 acres, which is absolutely outstanding,” enthused Hamer. “So if we can really develop that to the extent we want to, we can introduce everything there. “In fairness, a lot of those great ideas need decent facilities to support it. We’ve had many overtures and approaches from various people who want to start ladies’ teams and play in the Rovers blue and white quarters. It’s absolutely fantastic. “But right now, where are we going to put them? I think we have to give them the best. “Getting the training ground opens up all kinds of different horizons. It’s important that we as a club are all under one roof. Some interesting comments at the foot of the story about us also seeking pp for housing at Hortham Lane but that's not mentioned anywhere before, perhaps that's why seeking full pp is taking so long! www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-hamer-delivers-update-new-458698 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 20:13:01 GMT
Following on from SH's Mem update he's now given a similar one for The Colony which, if taken at face value, sounds promising: Bristol Rovers chairman Steve Hamer has explained exactly what stage the club are at in developing their new Colony training ground. Rovers acquired the land in February this year but have not yet submitted a planning application to South Gloucestershire Council. “The pre-planning consultation has been returned,” confirmed Hamer to the Post. “Which I’ve got to say is encouraging, I think it’s pretty favourable. The next stage now is for us to complete our planning and make that submission. Once that’s hopefully been agreed, and there is probably a bit of back forth to go with that, we can get on with it.” Many Rovers fans have been desperate for news as to when work could start at the new 30-acre site and when the club could begin training there. “I can understand people’s frustrations,” admitted Hamer. “But you always have to respect the local residents and you don’t want to be up there doing things when maybe you’ve jumped the gun or they’re not permissible. Steve Hamer, Darrell Clarke and Marcus Stewart at the Colony “It’s not that we’re dragging our heels or hiding behind bushes pretending we’ve done this or done that. You want to make sure everybody has a very clear understanding of what our intention is, and sometimes if you’re a fan of a football club you want it to happen and sometimes those within a football club, who have a responsibility of making sure all bases are covered properly, can’t be as presumptuous as you would wish.” While the new ground will obviously host both Rovers’ first team and development squads, Hamer is also keen to see the club expand when at its new home. “Tom Gorringe [commercial director] who has just joined us tells me that Brighton’s ground is only 10 acres and we’ve got 30 acres, which is absolutely outstanding,” enthused Hamer. “So if we can really develop that to the extent we want to, we can introduce everything there. “In fairness, a lot of those great ideas need decent facilities to support it. We’ve had many overtures and approaches from various people who want to start ladies’ teams and play in the Rovers blue and white quarters. It’s absolutely fantastic. “But right now, where are we going to put them? I think we have to give them the best. “Getting the training ground opens up all kinds of different horizons. It’s important that we as a club are all under one roof. Some interesting comments at the foot of the story about us also seeking pp for housing at Hortham Lane but that's not mentioned anywhere before, perhaps that's why seeking full pp is taking so long! www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-hamer-delivers-update-new-458698I for one can not see at the foot of the story anything about us seeking planning for housing? |
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Post by garystash on Sept 13, 2017 20:18:35 GMT
I for one can not see at the foot of the story anything about us seeking planning for housing? It's on the comments section. It's a city fan spouting a rumour. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 20:21:39 GMT
I for one can not see at the foot of the story anything about us seeking planning for housing? It's on the comments section. It's a city fan spouting a rumour. Thanks for that, just shows how rumours can spread like wildfire. |
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Post by aghast on Sept 13, 2017 20:22:41 GMT
A bit risky comparing our large patch of weeds with Brighton's £32m state of the art facility, but, as Topper says, if you take his words at face value, it sounds positive.
I'm trying very hard not to be sceptical so I will just wait and see.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 7:13:56 GMT
Seems to me that the landing lights are on !
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Post by LJG on Sept 14, 2017 7:22:47 GMT
Here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we goooooo.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 14, 2017 7:44:46 GMT
Pre-Planning has to be carried out before full planning anyway. It took me 7 months to get a change of use on one of my industrial units and 2 months of that was waiting for pre planning applications to be sent, filed and then returned. I can't imagine how long it must all take for a complex as big as the colony.
Basically pre-planning is a lot of questions asked of, are we allowed to do this? Can we do that? Are we allowed this in this area? Then once you have an outline of your dos and donts you submit full planning.
It all takes time.
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Post by bluestone on Sept 14, 2017 7:47:37 GMT
For once a reasonable statement from SH (except for the bit about hiding in the bushes!).
I'm really looking forward to seeing the plans and feel that once they have submitted the planning application this will be a real sign of intent by our owners to invest in our club.
UTG! The futures bright, the futures blue and white!
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Post by bluestone on Sept 14, 2017 7:52:41 GMT
Pre-Planning has to be carried out before full planning anyway. It took me 7 months to get a change of use on one of my industrial units and 2 months of that was waiting for pre planning applications to be sent, filed and then returned. I can't imagine how long it must all take for a complex as big as the colony. Basically pre-planning is a lot of questions asked of, are we allowed to do this? Can we do that? Are we allowed this in this area? Then once you have an outline of your dos and donts you submit full planning. It all takes time. Spot on, the planning process takes time and you are better off investing that time at the front end through a robust pre-application process than to run at it like a bull in a China shop and find yourself getting a refusal. I'm working on a large residential project right now (£70m +) that we made 5 pre-apps on to get to a point where we we're happy we had closed off as much planning risk as possible and engaged with all the relevant stakeholders along the way. That has taken us about 1.5 years. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 14, 2017 8:05:07 GMT
Mods - can we move this tread to "Stadium Matters" as its not directly related to Rovers football matters  |
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 14, 2017 8:11:40 GMT
It's on the comments section. It's a city fan spouting a rumour. Thanks for that, just shows how rumours can spread like wildfire. If there's room (and there seems to be loads), I certainly wouldn't have a problem with tagging on some housing as an enabling development. Bound to complicate the planning process though. |
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Post by peterparker on Sept 14, 2017 8:12:52 GMT
Pre-Planning has to be carried out before full planning anyway. It took me 7 months to get a change of use on one of my industrial units and 2 months of that was waiting for pre planning applications to be sent, filed and then returned. I can't imagine how long it must all take for a complex as big as the colony. Basically pre-planning is a lot of questions asked of, are we allowed to do this? Can we do that? Are we allowed this in this area? Then once you have an outline of your dos and donts you submit full planning. It all takes time. Wooaaah there back up. Less of this reasoned response with actual evindencial comparisons. Hamer is a bullshitter remember. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 9:29:53 GMT
Thanks for that, just shows how rumours can spread like wildfire. If there's room (and there seems to be loads), I certainly wouldn't have a problem with tagging on some housing as an enabling development. Bound to complicate the planning process though. It's the housing which would pay for the overall development I would have thought as the equity is all but gone in the Mem. The owners, Dwayne Sports,are charging Rovers 6% on that so it will be interesting times ahead especially with the Mem referb and the 'investors'. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 9:30:37 GMT
Thanks for that, just shows how rumours can spread like wildfire. If there's room (and there seems to be loads), I certainly wouldn't have a problem with tagging on some housing as an enabling development. Bound to complicate the planning process though. |
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Post by knowall on Sept 14, 2017 9:56:08 GMT
If there's room (and there seems to be loads), I certainly wouldn't have a problem with tagging on some housing as an enabling development. Bound to complicate the planning process though. It's the housing which would pay for the overall development I would have thought as the equity is all but gone in the Mem. The owners, Dwayne Sports,are charging Rovers 6% on that so it will be interesting times ahead especially with the Mem referb and the 'investors'. Proof of this is .....where? |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 14, 2017 9:59:47 GMT
Jackanory?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 14, 2017 10:25:49 GMT
It's the housing which would pay for the overall development I would have thought as the equity is all but gone in the Mem. The owners, Dwayne Sports,are charging Rovers 6% on that so it will be interesting times ahead especially with the Mem referb and the 'investors'. Proof of this is .....where? There's a long post somewhere on the AF suggesting the accounts suggest we're being charged interest, although I can't recall what the suggested the rate was, but if DS are charging BRFC1883 aren't they just charging themselves anyway as they own both companies? |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 14, 2017 10:43:49 GMT
Proof of this is .....where? There's a long post somewhere on the AF suggesting the accounts suggest we're being charged interest, although I can't recall what the suggested the rate was, but if DS are charging BRFC1883 aren't they just charging themselves anyway as they own both companies? Very Tax efficient |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 10:53:44 GMT
If there's room (and there seems to be loads), I certainly wouldn't have a problem with tagging on some housing as an enabling development. Bound to complicate the planning process though. It's the housing which would pay for the overall development I would have thought as the equity is all but gone in the Mem. The owners, Dwayne Sports,are charging Rovers 6% on that so it will be interesting times ahead especially with the Mem referb and the 'investors'. Steady on - I was ridiculed on here just a few months ago by some posters for even suggesting that houses could be built on this land. BUT - IF 10 acres (or so) out of the 29 can be released AND planing permission obtained for 80 -100 houses it would be a significant revenue stream. But I'm brainless anyway so unlikely to happen!! |
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