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Post by dinsdale on Sept 17, 2017 11:53:12 GMT
I may have missed it but what improvenents have been made in this department since our takeover?. For me since our return to the league Bodin aside recruitment has been slow and really inconsistent in quality.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 17, 2017 12:16:38 GMT
Parts, Sercs, Smith, Slocs, Sweendog, (and I still have faith in Nicholls). That's not a bad bunch, in my view. Can't think of a better bout of recruitment since Olly. It's not perfect coz we failed with a few positions, but istm it's pretty good.
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Post by gregsy on Sept 17, 2017 12:16:39 GMT
I would honestly say that our owners can't see much point in injecting cash into the playing side without the off field infrastructure to at least pay for it in part....
I'm no doom and gloom merchant, but with mem in its current state we can only sustain ourselves as a L1/L2 club, so there really is no point throwing money at it....
We have some of the poorest facilities in the professional game, it makes sense that investment Has to be done in the correct order....
Here's hoping that this is what eventually happens....
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 17, 2017 12:19:54 GMT
Parts, Sercs, Smith, Slocs, Sweendog, (and I still have faith in Nicholls). That's not a bad bunch, in my view. Can't think of a better bout of recruitment since Olly. It's not perfect coz we failed with a few positions, but istm it's pretty good. Are either of those keepers an improvement on lumley? Is this squad an improvement on the squad that started last season?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 17, 2017 12:21:07 GMT
Parts, Sercs, Smith, Slocs, Sweendog, (and I still have faith in Nicholls). That's not a bad bunch, in my view. Can't think of a better bout of recruitment since Olly. It's not perfect coz we failed with a few positions, but istm it's pretty good. Are either of those keepers an improvement on lumley? Is this squad an improvement on the squad that started last season? We recruited Lumley since our takeover. I suppose you could argue that DC's recruitment when we were in the Conference could have been the best, considering how many of those are still around, and how much success we had. But istm prevailing opinion was that they had gone as far as they could and we needed a round of changes. Also, Leads, Locks (maybe), Brown, Sincs (injured) and OC are all having a bit of a dip at the moment, which is (presumably) a temporary thing and not a reflection on recruitment.
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Post by axegas on Sept 17, 2017 12:34:45 GMT
Parts, Sercs, Smith, Slocs, Sweendog, (and I still have faith in Nicholls). That's not a bad bunch, in my view. Can't think of a better bout of recruitment since Olly. It's not perfect coz we failed with a few positions, but istm it's pretty good. Are either of those keepers an improvement on lumley? Is this squad an improvement on the squad that started last season? I would say slocombe is probably about similar ability wise. I think the GK position is one we did quite well out of in the summer. Two decent keepers and for once adequate cover. Positions we haven't improved tend to be in attacking areas although we've been scoring a fair few goals. The defensive side to our game is one that really needs addressing but once that's sorted I'm confident we have enough ability to do well in this division.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2017 12:56:22 GMT
Parts, Sercs, Smith, Slocs, Sweendog, (and I still have faith in Nicholls). That's not a bad bunch, in my view. Can't think of a better bout of recruitment since Olly. It's not perfect coz we failed with a few positions, but istm it's pretty good. Are either of those keepers an improvement on lumley? Is this squad an improvement on the squad that started last season? Lumley was never our own goalie, given he's now No 2 at QPR he's probably way out of our price range, Slocombe seems to have been our MotM yesterday so hardly his fault we lost 3-0. Missing Sincs/not signing a defensive CM seems an issue, likewise letting Monty go and not signing a replacement is plain odd, other than those two Leads and Clarke, and possibly Sweeney, seem half the players they were last season. So to answer your question, Slocombe, Partington (when he plays!), Broadbent, Bola, Sercombe all look decent signings, Nichols needs to get off the mark, but Ricky Miller's in the same boat at P'boro. If Sincs is going to be out for an extend period we really need to look to sign a non contracted player asap in my view.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 17, 2017 13:02:26 GMT
I like DC but for every good player he signs a bad one.
Whether that's a budget issue or scouting I'm not sure.
We seem to have had some really poor strikers/forwards.
Blisset, White, Cunnington, James, Moore and Nichols all poor just off the top of my head. With only Gaffers, Twatty and Bodin being decent.
Sincs, Sercombe, Lines and Manse says midfielders have been ok but failed to get a DC
Defender recruitment has mostly been ok and Goalies have also been hit and miss.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 17, 2017 13:16:37 GMT
Think his loan signings overall have been average to poor. Think with permanent signings you can only judge them good if you sell them for a fee or get a few good seasons out if them. So as someone who can question DCs individual actions (not his overall actions) I'll forgo judgement on this summers signings at this point
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Post by singupgas on Sept 17, 2017 13:18:45 GMT
We let a few experienced heads go or they retired nd didn't bring anyone to replace that.
Just like we brought Lines back to help us back in the conference we need 1 or 2 in same mould, league 1/ Championship experience.
DC need help with recruitment, someone with links, well connected who he can work with.
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 17, 2017 13:24:21 GMT
I like DC but for every good player he signs a bad one. Whether that's a budget issue or scouting I'm not sure. We seem to have had some really poor strikers/forwards. Blisset, White, Cunnington, James, Moore and Nichols all poor just off the top of my head. With only Gaffers, Twatty and Bodin being decent. Sincs, Sercombe, Lines and Manse says midfielders have been ok but failed to get a DC Defender recruitment has mostly been ok and Goalies have also been hit and miss. Agreed, my point really is we have seen investment in various aspects of the club but perhaps recruitment needs a bit of an overhaul. Still feels like its just DC and a load of agents. The last 3 seasons have started slow in part because recruitment was really slow. We need another Everson / Penrice / Holloway era of really good recruitment which not only achieves performance but financial security
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 17, 2017 18:21:00 GMT
I like DC but for every good player he signs a bad one. Whether that's a budget issue or scouting I'm not sure. We seem to have had some really poor strikers/forwards. Blisset, White, Cunnington, James, Moore and Nichols all poor just off the top of my head. With only Gaffers, Twatty and Bodin being decent. Sincs, Sercombe, Lines and Manse says midfielders have been ok but failed to get a DC Defender recruitment has mostly been ok and Goalies have also been hit and miss. Agreed, my point really is we have seen investment in various aspects of the club but perhaps recruitment needs a bit of an overhaul. Still feels like its just DC and a load of agents. The last 3 seasons have started slow in part because recruitment was really slow. We need another Everson / Penrice / Holloway era of really good recruitment which not only achieves performance but financial security I just wonder if DC has many contacts with higher level teams, that would do us a favour. It looks like we have developed a good link with Stoke but I agree that it seems DC needs some help and can't be expected to do it all himself , even if that's how he likes it
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2017 19:03:49 GMT
I like DC but for every good player he signs a bad one. Whether that's a budget issue or scouting I'm not sure. We seem to have had some really poor strikers/forwards. Blisset, White, Cunnington, James, Moore and Nichols all poor just off the top of my head. With only Gaffers, Twatty and Bodin being decent. Sincs, Sercombe, Lines and Manse says midfielders have been ok but failed to get a DC Defender recruitment has mostly been ok and Goalies have also been hit and miss. Agreed, my point really is we have seen investment in various aspects of the club but perhaps recruitment needs a bit of an overhaul. Still feels like its just DC and a load of agents. The last 3 seasons have started slow in part because recruitment was really slow. We need another Everson / Penrice / Holloway era of really good recruitment which not only achieves performance but financial security We've signed a full squad of development players so someone as contacts somewhere. As far as strikers, I still feel NH panicked and signed Bliss after he tore us apart at the Mem, White was a disappointment but always looked good for Salisbury I'm not sure you can really call Nichols a poor signing after half a dozen games but he does have a reasonable CV, I can't recall Bodin or Taylor getting their careers off to flyers at Rovers, so you have to hope Nichols will come good. Plus we're playing so poor generally I doubt it's helping his own game.
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Post by pirate49 on Sept 17, 2017 19:21:26 GMT
I would honestly say that our owners can't see much point in injecting cash into the playing side without the off field infrastructure to at least pay for it in part.... I'm no doom and gloom merchant, but with mem in its current state we can only sustain ourselves as a L1/L2 club, so there really is no point throwing money at it.... We have some of the poorest facilities in the professional game, it makes sense that investment Has to be done in the correct order.... Here's hoping that this is what eventually happens.... Chicken and Egg scenario. Personally I'd rather develop a good team in a crappy fortress ground which generates the interest and support that makes a new ground desirable and necessary than stall and drift towards relegation, making a new ground irrelevant.
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Post by markczgas on Sept 17, 2017 19:22:10 GMT
I like DC but for every good player he signs a bad one. Whether that's a budget issue or scouting I'm not sure. We seem to have had some really poor strikers/forwards. Blisset, White, Cunnington, James, Moore and Nichols all poor just off the top of my head. With only Gaffers, Twatty and Bodin being decent. Sincs, Sercombe, Lines and Manse says midfielders have been ok but failed to get a DC Defender recruitment has mostly been ok and Goalies have also been hit and miss. too early to judge Nichols - signs are of a really good player - good movement, energy levels and passing but needs a goal - has been close to breaking his duck recently - maybe he should've taken pen yesterday . Would have had more faith in him than Harrison.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 17, 2017 19:32:44 GMT
I would honestly say that our owners can't see much point in injecting cash into the playing side without the off field infrastructure to at least pay for it in part.... I'm no doom and gloom merchant, but with mem in its current state we can only sustain ourselves as a L1/L2 club, so there really is no point throwing money at it.... We have some of the poorest facilities in the professional game, it makes sense that investment Has to be done in the correct order.... Here's hoping that this is what eventually happens.... "We have some of the poorest facilities in the professional game, it makes sense that investment Has to be done in the correct order...." Tents for stands and everyone else it seems improving their facilities.Resigned to not seeing a proper ground in my lifetime but enjoying going to places meanwhile like Wigan,Bradford and Molineux
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Post by gregsy on Sept 17, 2017 19:44:10 GMT
I would honestly say that our owners can't see much point in injecting cash into the playing side without the off field infrastructure to at least pay for it in part.... I'm no doom and gloom merchant, but with mem in its current state we can only sustain ourselves as a L1/L2 club, so there really is no point throwing money at it.... We have some of the poorest facilities in the professional game, it makes sense that investment Has to be done in the correct order.... Here's hoping that this is what eventually happens.... Chicken and Egg scenario. Personally I'd rather develop a good team in a crappy fortress ground which generates the interest and support that makes a new ground desirable and necessary than stall and drift towards relegation, making a new ground irrelevant. It's not chicken and egg though, it's sound planning for the future.... I'll put my balls on the line here, but personally I'd prefer to see us in 5 years time in a rebuilt mem in league 2 with prospects , than seeing us in exactly the same predicament we find ourselves in today....
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 17, 2017 20:33:04 GMT
Agreed, my point really is we have seen investment in various aspects of the club but perhaps recruitment needs a bit of an overhaul. Still feels like its just DC and a load of agents. The last 3 seasons have started slow in part because recruitment was really slow. We need another Everson / Penrice / Holloway era of really good recruitment which not only achieves performance but financial security We've signed a full squad of development players so someone as contacts somewhere. As far as strikers, I still feel NH panicked and signed Bliss after he tore us apart at the Mem, White was a disappointment but always looked good for Salisbury I'm not sure you can really call Nichols a poor signing after half a dozen games but he does have a reasonable CV, I can't recall Bodin or Taylor getting their careers off to flyers at Rovers, so you have to hope Nichols will come good. Plus we're playing so poor generally I doubt it's helping his own game. I don't think the development players are a good example of having contacts, topper. These are players that are just happy to be getting paid for playing football and is a great opportunity for them or else they'd be on the scrapheap!
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Post by daz on Sept 17, 2017 21:44:29 GMT
Are either of those keepers an improvement on lumley? Is this squad an improvement on the squad that started last season? We recruited Lumley since our takeover. I suppose you could argue that DC's recruitment when we were in the Conference could have been the best, considering how many of those are still around, and how much success we had. But istm prevailing opinion was that they had gone as far as they could and we needed a round of changes. Also, Leads, Locks (maybe), Brown, Sincs (injured) and OC are all having a bit of a dip at the moment, which is (presumably) a temporary thing and not a reflection on recruitment. I agree, to me the main problem is we have a few players who have not performed to the levels they did last season - Sweeney, Leads, Ollie and Billy. I'm sure this is a temporary dip and they will come good. With regards to recruitment, I like the look of Sercs, jury is out on Nichols because although he looks like an intelligent player, he really needs to be scoring. Neither keeper has impressed me yet but I was happy when they signed. Disappointed DC didn't buy at least 1 winger, but having said that, he doesn't like playing them!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:50:56 GMT
How i look at it is that when dc was first able to recruit we were in the conference and now we are in league one. So its a no brainer,recruitment fantastic. This season? too early to know obviously.
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