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Post by gertrude1883 on Oct 12, 2017 10:04:55 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons. How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. Why didn't you say that to start with?
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Post by yatetown85 on Oct 12, 2017 10:16:47 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons. How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. Give your doom and gloom a rest FFS!
What we don't need is a white knight! We have owners, we have owners that want to push Rovers forward, just because you missed out on some commission from I take it your mates failed attempt, doesn't mean you have to bring us all down.
There is no consortium, there is no white knight, there is however the Al Qadi family who are improving Rovers slowly both on and off the pitch!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Oct 12, 2017 11:34:40 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. Totally on the money, unfortunately most people think the investment needed is forthcoming just because wael sits in the away end with the fans! The contradictions about the feasibility of uwe by this board are staggering and actually put Higgs to shame. There are far too many people who think the men in its current state is acceptable. It isn't and if something doesn't happen soon we will be left behind in this city forever.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 12, 2017 11:43:10 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. Totally on the money, unfortunately most people think the investment needed is forthcoming just because wael sits in the away end with the fans! The contradictions about the feasibility of uwe by this board are staggering and actually put Higgs to shame. There are far too many people who think the men in its current state is acceptable. It isn't and if something doesn't happen soon we will be left behind in this city forever. Are you gasincider's twin brother by chance ?
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Post by RD on Oct 12, 2017 11:51:00 GMT
Don't understand the negativity emanating from you Gasincider - I've heard the latest plans include not one, but two corridors of power. What a time to be alive!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 12, 2017 11:52:53 GMT
Totally on the money, unfortunately most people think the investment needed is forthcoming just because wael sits in the away end with the fans! The contradictions about the feasibility of uwe by this board are staggering and actually put Higgs to shame. There's no contradiction. When you're in the middle of negotiations, you back a positive outcome. You don't say 'these negotiations are a bit rubbish and we have to grind away just to get the other side to move even an inch' you say 'we're looking forward to a positive outcome and both sides are doing their best to achieve a deal that benefits both parties.' That's so obvious it shouldn't really need stating. You must know this. You're not 6.
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Post by baggins on Oct 12, 2017 12:10:10 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. Totally on the money, unfortunately most people think the investment needed is forthcoming just because wael sits in the away end with the fans! The contradictions about the feasibility of uwe by this board are staggering and actually put Higgs to shame. There are far too many people who think the men in its current state is acceptable. It isn't and if something doesn't happen soon we will be left behind in this city forever. Hands up if you've had the door to Box 1 slammed shut in your face?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 12, 2017 12:16:16 GMT
Mods: Can we change the tread title to A New Beginning Part 3 please, this one could run for a while
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 12:16:53 GMT
Am I the only deluded one who thinks this is all a ploy and we're still waiting for a booty call from UWE?
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Post by baggins on Oct 12, 2017 12:22:52 GMT
Am I the only deluded one who thinks this is all a ploy and we're still waiting for a booty call from UWE? Afraid so. Those days are gone, time to move on.
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Post by axegas on Oct 12, 2017 12:31:11 GMT
Am I the only deluded one who thinks this is all a ploy and we're still waiting for a booty call from UWE? I'd be surprised if too many agree with you. It's a fanciful supposition of a ship that has already sailed. It's time to move on and get behind the owners as it's their plans they are trying now to put in action, UWE was always the ambition of Higgs and not in the best interests of the club.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 12, 2017 12:37:53 GMT
Am I the only deluded one who thinks this is all a ploy and we're still waiting for a booty call from UWE? Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm still waiting for my real 'O' level results to arrive.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 12, 2017 12:47:47 GMT
It's all smoke and mirrors. If all the items indicated in the article were outside our remit,why were the landing lights ever on? This is spurious crap put out either by the author or requested by some other interested party for their own reasons. How has the Mem gone from being a non starter to a possible profitable stadium in no time at all? The answer is it hasn't. We all know it and most of all, our owners know it. If there were to be redevelopment, you can bet your life it would be cheap skate and a patchwork quilt of a job. It would be the lowest capacity possible, with a few bits of gym equipment etc. Sadly I believe this all to be a sop, to placate the fans who in truth have been let down badly. As Topper has said, the feasibility study would have shown what was required, and if it couldn't be enacted, that was the end of the project. So what then took so long to bring it to a head? Remember our two former partners in the project (Cunnar and the other guy- sorry about any spelling errors). Why did they disappear like they did? The truth is that by the time we all realise that the Mem regeneration won't happen, or at the least it will be tacky, the UWE opportunity will have disappeared. Then we will have no choice but to accept whatever we get fed. It's long since time that UWE who have been painted as the bad guys in all this, gave their full version of what happened in the talks , not to mention that Rovers should as well. Remember, they were discussing heads of terms over the issue. If the article was anywhere near true, the talks would have been called off much earlier. After 40+ years of economy with the truth, it's all happening again. How people keep falling for it defies belief. I hope I'm wrong, but after years of bull, and a well established trail of it, I am staggered about how easily the fans have accepted yet another kick in the goolies without a murmur. Perhaps this is all we deserve if we are so easily conned. If ever we needed a white knight, it's now. If ever we needed a white knight, it was when we were in the conference, when you were still backing your mates who had brought us disaster. You're the one who feeds us spurious crap, and you should give it a rest, coz you just look bitter and twisted coz you're not an insider any more. I can't recall Gasincider ever backing the previous owners!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 12, 2017 12:50:00 GMT
If ever we needed a white knight, it was when we were in the conference, when you were still backing your mates who had brought us disaster. You're the one who feeds us spurious crap, and you should give it a rest, coz you just look bitter and twisted coz you're not an insider any more. I can't recall Gasincider ever backing the previous owners! Fair enough. I apologise if he didn't.
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Post by baggins on Oct 12, 2017 12:52:17 GMT
If ever we needed a white knight, it was when we were in the conference, when you were still backing your mates who had brought us disaster. You're the one who feeds us spurious crap, and you should give it a rest, coz you just look bitter and twisted coz you're not an insider any more. I can't recall Gasincider ever backing the previous owners! Can't recall Gasincider backing anything.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 12, 2017 13:01:47 GMT
Totally on the money, unfortunately most people think the investment needed is forthcoming just because wael sits in the away end with the fans! The contradictions about the feasibility of uwe by this board are staggering and actually put Higgs to shame. There's no contradiction. When you're in the middle of negotiations, you back a positive outcome. You don't say 'these negotiations are a bit rubbish and we have to grind away just to get the other side to move even an inch' you say 'we're looking forward to a positive outcome and both sides are doing their best to achieve a deal that benefits both parties.' That's so obvious it shouldn't really need stating. You must know this. You're not 6. A bit like David Davis then.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 12, 2017 13:04:05 GMT
There's no contradiction. When you're in the middle of negotiations, you back a positive outcome. You don't say 'these negotiations are a bit rubbish and we have to grind away just to get the other side to move even an inch' you say 'we're looking forward to a positive outcome and both sides are doing their best to achieve a deal that benefits both parties.' That's so obvious it shouldn't really need stating. You must know this. You're not 6. A bit like David Davis then. If Rovers fans had voted in a binding poll to see whether we should to go to UWE, then UWE would have had us over a barrel, too.
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 12, 2017 14:49:12 GMT
Back to the OP what would people prefer at the mem? Gym, Bakery, Bar, Community centre, Micro-brewery?
I don't live anywhere near the Mem so I'm only really interested in the things I could use on a match day like a big bar, but maybe some of us closer to the Mem might like a local gym?
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Post by mjhgas on Oct 12, 2017 14:57:21 GMT
I'm amazed that there are Rovers fans who seriously think we can compete with the teams in the Championship & beyond both on and off the pitch. Historically we never have! Our owners clearly aren't wealthy enough to do spend the ridiculous sums that are needed either! Where are the people queuing up to invest the £100m's that are needed? Come on Gasincider - let's have some names Unfortunately, "that lot down the road" are in prime position to do just what all L1 & L2 football fans would like to do! Ground in place and an owner with a serious amount of money! I'm glad we had our day in 1989/90 but it won't be repeated. We were left behind in the 1990's when Sky TV kicked off & we were stuck at Twerton Park. Keep dreaming... UTG.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 15:11:47 GMT
A bit like David Davis then. If Rovers fans had voted in a binding poll to see whether we should to go to UWE, then UWE would have had us over a barrel, too. Can you back that statement up? Neither Party has given any formal reason why the talks failed.
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