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Post by bumble on Nov 2, 2017 12:02:03 GMT
I would suggest we name and shame them, but given recent posts it might just be the thing that finally sends them over the edge. "name and shame"? Could you give details of the terrible crimes these posters have committed to be punished in this way? People like you make me laugh when you make absurd melodramatic comments like this! Imagine i was one of the unfortunate people who was named! My friends and family would disown me and everywhere i went people would point and say "blasphemer". "make absurd melodramatic comments" Are you kidding me? Have you heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black? It was a light-hearted comment, in the spirit of this is the highs and lows of a football club, and not life or death. Maybe I should take your lead and position all of my statements as fact based on assumption.
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 12:10:33 GMT
I know I'm new here but I have been a long time reader. I just wish those who claim bad things regarding our owners would offer some evidence because 'my mate down the pub' or 'my next door partners best mates dog heard something on the bus' don't really cut it with me. Crap about our owners only breeds negativity and why would anyone want to do that after the last 3 years is beyond me. Believe it or not, Wael knows what he is doing. Those who are against Wael, can you please explain, with brief bullet points, exactly why you are against him and then add what evidence you have to back it up OR just state its your opinion based on a gut feeling for example. Thanks. What part of "top 6 budget" "landing lights are on" training ground open 2018-19" isnt evidence to at least seriously doubt the owners? All of this failed without explanation from the owners. When asked about the loan taken out against the mem wael offered no decent explanation. Zero communication for quite a while now hardly breeds confidence does it? Do the owners or even the manager really know what other clubs budgets are? I don't think so. Maybe the budget quote was just an opinion because they kept being asked about the budget. Or maybe they believe they have a budget to compete for the top 6? Its all about how you interpret things. The landing lights quote is pretty obviously really. He thought things were very close at the time to get the deal completed. Obviously it didn't work out in the end. Thing is, when people keep demanding updates every 2 minutes, when updates are then given up to that point of time, things can change afterwards obviously. Its not rocket science. When updates are given, you pick faults with it because its not decent enough for you so its hardly surprising you then get zero communication. Some moan constantly at the updates but the same people moan when there is no updates!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 12:36:07 GMT
"name and shame"? Could you give details of the terrible crimes these posters have committed to be punished in this way? People like you make me laugh when you make absurd melodramatic comments like this! Imagine i was one of the unfortunate people who was named! My friends and family would disown me and everywhere i went people would point and say "blasphemer". "make absurd melodramatic comments" Are you kidding me? Have you heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black? It was a light-hearted comment, in the spirit of this is the highs and lows of a football club, and not life or death. Maybe I should take your lead and position all of my statements as fact based on assumption. Pots and kettles cant talk? You should have put a smiley face on your post
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2017 13:15:37 GMT
"make absurd melodramatic comments" Are you kidding me? Have you heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black? It was a light-hearted comment, in the spirit of this is the highs and lows of a football club, and not life or death. Maybe I should take your lead and position all of my statements as fact based on assumption. Pots and kettles cant talk? You should have put a smiley face on your post Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast?
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Post by Marshy on Nov 2, 2017 13:20:10 GMT
Pots and kettles cant talk? You should have put a smiley face on your post Have you not seen Beauty and the Beast? That’s me and the wife. (I’m the beauty)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 21:25:48 GMT
With lots of rumours going around and little being done on the surface to dismiss them I think we have to listen to DC. He is an ambitious manager and wouldn't stay with us if Wael has gone cold on the club. TBH all I have heard him say a couple of weeks was 'the owners are working very hard for this football club'this would seem at odds with some of the rumours posted on here. I think the time to worry is if he makes negative comments as I'm sure he will if the situation as changed. Dc played luke James. He's dead to me.
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Post by althepirate on Nov 2, 2017 23:56:55 GMT
How did you arrive at your first sentence? As i actually said in the sentence its my interpretation of his words and body language in interviews. He must have been looking forward to all the things we were dont forget,budget,new ground,training ground. With respect anyone's interpretation of words and body language is not a fact. TBH the inconsistency of his team is more likely to be the reason he's not happy if he's not. Interpretation of his body language for me doesn't mean that Wael wants out, the Mem and the training ground won't be developed and the club is up for sale. A guessing game is a dangerous thing. Would you put money on your assumptions?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 1:09:42 GMT
As i actually said in the sentence its my interpretation of his words and body language in interviews. He must have been looking forward to all the things we were dont forget,budget,new ground,training ground. With respect anyone's interpretation of words and body language is not a fact. TBH the inconsistency of his team is more likely to be the reason he's not happy if he's not. Interpretation of his body language for me doesn't mean that Wael wants out, the Mem and the training ground won't be developed and the club is up for sale. A guessing game is a dangerous thing. Would you put money on your assumptions? He did actually say he didnt want to be the next paul trollope,he did say he fears being a "dead duck" at rovers. But its not a fact that hes fed up with events at rovers,just my opinion so if you think hes happy with whats happened at rovers regarding budget,uwe and the training complex thats your right to have that opinion.
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Post by althepirate on Nov 3, 2017 6:31:42 GMT
With respect anyone's interpretation of words and body language is not a fact. TBH the inconsistency of his team is more likely to be the reason he's not happy if he's not. Interpretation of his body language for me doesn't mean that Wael wants out, the Mem and the training ground won't be developed and the club is up for sale. A guessing game is a dangerous thing. Would you put money on your assumptions? He did actually say he didnt want to be the next paul trollope,he did say he fears being a "dead duck" at rovers. But its not a fact that hes fed up with events at rovers,just my opinion so if you think hes happy with whats happened at rovers regarding budget,uwe and the training complex thats your right to have that opinion. I don't know BB. I dont have any inside connections to Rovers but the reason I started this thread is that if things have changed then I think he would be open about it. The real test of course is if another club comes in for him.
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Post by beaver132 on Nov 3, 2017 14:12:35 GMT
I think it’s becayse when alQ bought us those people saw that they were very rich and thought that they would spend millions on players. Even though WAQ never once said they would. Where as we all knew Higgs and co didn’t have much so there wasn’t as much pressure on them. Part of the issue for me is in the first 6 months the Al Q's and hamer were often quoted as saying that staying at the mem isn't sustainable for the clubs future, since the UWE debacle ended, staying at the mem is now the preferred choice- something doesn't add up here for me and I believe that it is a funding issue. I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 3, 2017 15:49:32 GMT
Part of the issue for me is in the first 6 months the Al Q's and hamer were often quoted as saying that staying at the mem isn't sustainable for the clubs future, since the UWE debacle ended, staying at the mem is now the preferred choice- something doesn't add up here for me and I believe that it is a funding issue. I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. Unfortunately, I read WAQ has not got any money to spend; because we sure have not seen any so far. Whether WAQ will develop the MEM only time will tell, its all quite on the training ground, to me he is playing a crazy game, my worry is DC will get **** off and leave through the total lack of ambition.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 3, 2017 15:54:00 GMT
I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. Unfortunately, I read WAQ has not got any money to spend; because we sure have not seen any so far. Whether WAQ will develop the MEM only time will tell, its all quite on the training ground, to me he is playing a crazy game, my worry is DC will get **** off and leave through the total lack of ambition. but whoever said The Al-Qadi's had money to spend?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 3, 2017 16:13:41 GMT
of course he won't tell us, when there are bills mounting up unpaid he isn't going to put his own income under threat by telling the truth is he? I imagine when he leaves the truth will out. "Bills" now is it? I thought it was just one?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 3, 2017 16:15:10 GMT
of course he won't tell us, when there are bills mounting up unpaid he isn't going to put his own income under threat by telling the truth is he? I imagine when he leaves the truth will out. Bills mounting up unpaid? As far as I'm aware its the fence for the training ground that hasn't been paid because its in dispute. Unless there are other bills we don't know about? Should have read on before posting my response..
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Post by Slide away on Nov 3, 2017 17:10:39 GMT
Part of the issue for me is in the first 6 months the Al Q's and hamer were often quoted as saying that staying at the mem isn't sustainable for the clubs future, since the UWE debacle ended, staying at the mem is now the preferred choice- something doesn't add up here for me and I believe that it is a funding issue. I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. It's the "sustainable" bit which concerns me. How can you tell the supporters that there is no future staying at the mem and then 18 months later, say we're staying and expect everyone to be happy and belive in the project?
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Post by yategas78 on Nov 3, 2017 17:48:15 GMT
I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. It's the "sustainable" bit which concerns me. How can you tell the supporters that there is no future staying at the mem and then 18 months later, say we're staying and expect everyone to be happy and belive in the project? Very good point doesn't fill you with confidence does it!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 3, 2017 18:07:38 GMT
I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. It's the "sustainable" bit which concerns me. How can you tell the supporters that there is no future staying at the mem and then 18 months later, say we're staying and expect everyone to be happy and belive in the project? City said exactly the same about needing to go the Vale. You just back whatever project you're doing.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 3, 2017 18:32:53 GMT
It's the "sustainable" bit which concerns me. How can you tell the supporters that there is no future staying at the mem and then 18 months later, say we're staying and expect everyone to be happy and belive in the project? City said exactly the same about needing to go the Vale. You just back whatever project you're doing. Oh and wernt we redeveloping The Mem under NH to begin with
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Post by beaver132 on Nov 5, 2017 18:46:10 GMT
I believe it's called 'Hobson's Choice'. The Mem was not the preferred option when we had two options. Now we have one option, it is. Unfortunately, I read WAQ has not got any money to spend; because we sure have not seen any so far. Whether WAQ will develop the MEM only time will tell, its all quite on the training ground, to me he is playing a crazy game, my worry is DC will get **** off and leave through the total lack of ambition. The problem Peter is where did you read it (not having a go at you). It's been written and reposted so many times its somehow fact. Well it isn't. It's at best supposition based on very little but conjecture .its not even worth the virtual paper it's virtually written on.
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