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Post by You can call me Al. on Nov 10, 2017 11:25:18 GMT
If EW has a plan to build the UWE that BRFC would own, why didn't he just take over BRFC last year? Seems a bit pointless to let Dwane take over and then want to wrestle the club from Dwane. Why didn't they just do it 6 years ago, instead of arsing about with Sainsbury's? According to another ex director I spoke to, it was believed very much at the time the ALQs were going to build the stadium without the need for them to do it themselves. That was the clincher for them to takeover. All things were in place. The ALQs, for all their reasons have not decided to build UWE and go a different path. Whatever Wael or Hamer says only depends on whether Hani and the old man want to open the cheque book so to speak. And quite clearly for whatever reason they aren't now prepared to do it. UWE still want to do the project and maybe EW feels that it was the wrong decision to sell the club to the ALQs and if he can take over he can get the job done. NH was also the majority shareholder of the club with BB. EW had a minority stake so unless he had the people alongside him 3 years ago he could have never have taken over himself. I believe this was the plan b the club also talked about. These aren't new plans. I saw the blueprints for redevelopment for housing around 4-5 years ago when Sainsbury's fell through and the JR appeal was in process. Interesting, So effectively are we now saying perhaps Nick Higgs/fellow directors did not do due diligence before selling the club? That is not an attack on Nick by the way, i have a lot of respect for him. I think we need to hear from Edward to be honest, i'm sure there are confidentiality issues in talking, but if he is releasing it into the general public by stealth i see no reason he cannot communicate with the club he loves supporters. Either way, i am inclined to think this is having a negative impact on our club at present. People are obviously looking for clarification from the President and Chairman, however i think the situation should be explained by the person/s who are releasing titbits to people knowing it will be made public via social media etc. In my experience successful businessmen either keep very quiet while progressing a plan until near fruition or make a professional announcement of intentions. Whispering behind closed doors is neither helpful or impressive in my humble opinion.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 10, 2017 11:28:08 GMT
You're literally the last person to find out, congratulations, everybody else is up to speed with this far fetched ego boosting bull5h1t!!Diggers being hired as we speak I would imagine...what a waste of time. What is it with ex directors? Ha, just about sums it up for me. When something is officially put out I will read it and comment. Until then, for me, it’s all ifs, buts, maybes, and dodgy numbers drawn from thin air by some who may, or may not, know everything or nothing. They may have good intentions, they may not. Who knows? I am not in a position to comment, so I prefer to watch from afar and keep my powder dry. But it’s a free(ish) society so it’s up to each and every one to comment or not as they see fit. PS...where did you hear about the diggers.....😀
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 10, 2017 11:31:21 GMT
Who hasn't been briefed on the Ed Ware plans?! Me. I thought that the UWE was dead in the water? At first I thought it might be a bluff, but when nothing further happened that was that as far as I was coming. UTG Now that’s what I call a party trick...
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 10, 2017 11:46:41 GMT
Me. I thought that the UWE was dead in the water? At first I thought it might be a bluff, but when nothing further happened that was that as far as I was coming. UTG Ooh err ... Damn predictive text. Should have said.....concerned
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 10, 2017 11:50:58 GMT
In order to build a stadium, capital is required.(£40m?) Certainly more than E Ware has. So who will provide the capital for say two years whilst stadium is built and what return would the lender require? Nothing? do not believe that. So that is the first profit take out. And who will actually own it? and what rights of income would they require? second profit take-out opportunity. And in order to move into the turn-key stadium, DSports would GIVE away The Mem? (£20m) third profit take-out opportunity. And are we saying in return for fronting £40m stadium build EW builders would have £20m Mem which would have to be knocked down in order to build houses and make a profit - rather expensive houses for Horfield area? There's 2 or 3 threads running on the forum on this topic, on one of them it's suggesting Chinese money will build it.
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Post by abbeygas on Nov 10, 2017 11:51:19 GMT
I was beginning to think I was the only one who hasn't. Welcome to the mushroom club Brighton Gas! Well think if it this way. I doubt EW has the finiancial clout himself to run rovers and build the stadium. There will be partners and other parties and I don't believe all this information has come from one source, namely EW, I know for a fact it hasn't.
Are you able to elaborate on other source(s)?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 10, 2017 11:57:18 GMT
Well think if it this way. I doubt EW has the finiancial clout himself to run rovers and build the stadium. There will be partners and other parties and I don't believe all this information has come from one source, namely EW, I know for a fact it hasn't.
Are you able to elaborate on other source(s)?
got to be the groundsman they know everything about whats going on
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 10, 2017 12:25:07 GMT
According to another ex director I spoke to, it was believed very much at the time the ALQs were going to build the stadium without the need for them to do it themselves. That was the clincher for them to takeover. All things were in place. The ALQs, for all their reasons have not decided to build UWE and go a different path. Whatever Wael or Hamer says only depends on whether Hani and the old man want to open the cheque book so to speak. And quite clearly for whatever reason they aren't now prepared to do it. UWE still want to do the project and maybe EW feels that it was the wrong decision to sell the club to the ALQs and if he can take over he can get the job done. NH was also the majority shareholder of the club with BB. EW had a minority stake so unless he had the people alongside him 3 years ago he could have never have taken over himself. I believe this was the plan b the club also talked about. These aren't new plans. I saw the blueprints for redevelopment for housing around 4-5 years ago when Sainsbury's fell through and the JR appeal was in process. Interesting, So effectively are we now saying perhaps Nick Higgs/fellow directors did not do due diligence before selling the club? That is not an attack on Nick by the way, i have a lot of respect for him. I think we need to hear from Edward to be honest, i'm sure there are confidentiality issues in talking, but if he is releasing it into the general public by stealth i see no reason he cannot communicate with the club he loves supporters. Either way, i am inclined to think this is having a negative impact on our club at present. People are obviously looking for clarification from the President and Chairman, however i think the situation should be explained by the person/s who are releasing titbits to people knowing it will be made public via social media etc. In my experience successful businessmen either keep very quiet while progressing a plan until near fruition or make a professional announcement of intentions. Whispering behind closed doors is neither helpful or impressive in my humble opinion. I think due diligence was done to the best they could have done it. It wasn't as if the ALQs came in and shut it all down once they got ownership of the club. I don't think there is much more they could have done. Its the ALQs that have changed the terms of the stadium build. No matter how you try and keep things close, someone always has loose lips. I know Ed is on holiday at the moment and returns just before the Wimbledon game so don't expect to hear anything just yet.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 10, 2017 12:25:34 GMT
Well think if it this way. I doubt EW has the finiancial clout himself to run rovers and build the stadium. There will be partners and other parties and I don't believe all this information has come from one source, namely EW, I know for a fact it hasn't.
Are you able to elaborate on other source(s)?
Not right now.
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Post by sipirate on Nov 10, 2017 12:30:02 GMT
I am still loving it that he said no to the stadium It is great to finally be in a position where we can say no. Thank the lord Wael came in and employed the right people to look at the minor details and seen the catastrophic flaws in the proposal. Give him freedom of Bristol right away in my opinion Pretty much with that decision alone saved us from becoming a darlington
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 10, 2017 12:43:37 GMT
I am still loving it that he said no to the stadium It is great to finally be in a position where we can say no. Thank the lord Wael came in and employed the right people to look at the minor details and seen the catastrophic flaws in the proposal. Give him freedom of Bristol right away in my opinion Pretty much with that decision alone saved us from becoming a darlington Hard to be so confident of that when no real reasons as to why the deal fell through have been given. That itself is speculation.
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Post by piratesquarters on Nov 10, 2017 12:47:23 GMT
Can't see this going wrong.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 10, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
I am still loving it that he said no to the stadium It is great to finally be in a position where we can say no. Thank the lord Wael came in and employed the right people to look at the minor details and seen the catastrophic flaws in the proposal. Give him freedom of Bristol right away in my opinion Pretty much with that decision alone saved us from becoming a darlington Hard to be so confident of that when no real reasons as to why the deal fell through have been given. That itself is speculation. UWE moved the goalposts didn't they? Maybe because somebody whispered in their ear. And now we are maybe finding out who those whisperers were as they are whispering in even more peoples ears (not mine I hasten to add). All speculation you understand
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 10, 2017 13:16:59 GMT
Are you able to elaborate on other source(s)?
got to be the groundsman they know everything about whats going on its the bloke in the c.o.p with the goatee that takes all the guests out for a fag,he had his tongue right up the Peterborough owners arse
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Post by aghast on Nov 10, 2017 13:23:27 GMT
Can we now say that the consortium rumours have moved on a stage from "Complete and utter mischief making bollocks" to "Actually there might well be something about to happen here"?
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Post by LJG on Nov 10, 2017 13:25:04 GMT
Can we now say that the consortium rumours have moved on a stage from "Complete and utter mischief making bollocks" to "Actually there might well be something about to happen here"? On what basis?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 13:27:17 GMT
Interesting, So effectively are we now saying perhaps Nick Higgs/fellow directors did not do due diligence before selling the club? That is not an attack on Nick by the way, i have a lot of respect for him. I think we need to hear from Edward to be honest, i'm sure there are confidentiality issues in talking, but if he is releasing it into the general public by stealth i see no reason he cannot communicate with the club he loves supporters. Either way, i am inclined to think this is having a negative impact on our club at present. People are obviously looking for clarification from the President and Chairman, however i think the situation should be explained by the person/s who are releasing titbits to people knowing it will be made public via social media etc. In my experience successful businessmen either keep very quiet while progressing a plan until near fruition or make a professional announcement of intentions. Whispering behind closed doors is neither helpful or impressive in my humble opinion. I think due diligence was done to the best they could have done it. It wasn't as if the ALQs came in and shut it all down once they got ownership of the club. I don't think there is much more they could have done. Its the ALQs that have changed the terms of the stadium build. No matter how you try and keep things close, someone always has loose lips. I know Ed is on holiday at the moment and returns just before the Wimbledon game so don't expect to hear anything just yet. Ed was at GD's funeral on Wednesday.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 10, 2017 13:37:02 GMT
Can we now say that the consortium rumours have moved on a stage from "Complete and utter mischief making bollocks" to "Actually there might well be something about to happen here"? On what basis? An anonymous person, who writes well, said so.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 10, 2017 13:38:33 GMT
I am still loving it that he said no to the stadium It is great to finally be in a position where we can say no. Thank the lord Wael came in and employed the right people to look at the minor details and seen the catastrophic flaws in the proposal. Give him freedom of Bristol right away in my opinion Pretty much with that decision alone saved us from becoming a darlington I love your positivity. It must be brilliant, at least int he short term, to believe everything people tell you.
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Post by aghast on Nov 10, 2017 13:40:14 GMT
Can we now say that the consortium rumours have moved on a stage from "Complete and utter mischief making bollocks" to "Actually there might well be something about to happen here"? On what basis? That's one vote for "bollocks" then.
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