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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 18:45:52 GMT
Any manager that feels the need to criticse their clubs own fans in the press is clearly feeling the heat. The guys sounding more and more miserable in the press and very defensive. Cries of lower your expectations were one thing but using a conversation he had with Paul Trollope at Geoffs funeral to give us another kick just made me laugh. So the two chaps believe Trolls was sacked because we got bored of being mid table in league 1. I must be mistaken as how i remember it is us being deep in the sh** with a small squad of average players on crazy wages. DC is clearly worried.
I think DC needs to chill out !! Mid table is great, next to nobody wants him out, just say it how it is and move on.
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Post by syg on Nov 12, 2017 18:56:22 GMT
Oh give it a rest. If he gives a positive interview he will get criticised. If he gives a negative interview he will get criticised. If he gives a politically correct interview he will get criticised. If he gives an honest interview he will get criticised. No wonder he doesn't appear to want to be interviewed a lot of a time. Give him some slack.
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Post by gassygas on Nov 12, 2017 18:57:21 GMT
Any manager that feels the need to criticse their clubs own fans in the press is clearly feeling the heat. The guys sounding more and more miserable in the press and very defensive. He's certainly feeling the pressure. Difficult to see how or when it will be relieved at the moment. Players confidence will be dropping too, need a couple of wins to get some upward momentum, and it's needed soon before DC gets too down. From previous comments he's made, it doesn't should like WAQ is going to help him out in January.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 18:59:51 GMT
Any manager that feels the need to criticse their clubs own fans in the press is clearly feeling the heat. The guys sounding more and more miserable in the press and very defensive. He's certainly feeling the pressure. Difficult to see how or when it will be relieved at the moment. Players confidence will be dropping too, need a couple of wins to get some upward momentum, and it's needed soon before DC gets too down. From previous comments he's made, it doesn't should like WAQ is going to help him out in January. Lose 6 on the trott it could be his lot but I hope not.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 19:03:35 GMT
DC will not and should not be sacked. I dont think quoting Paul Trollope to slag off the fans is very wise and if he did his history he would see that anyone paying that squad of dross that got us relegated from league 1 what Trolls paid should have no complaints about being sacked.
Hes better then that imo
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 19:14:41 GMT
DC will not and should not be sacked. I dont think quoting Paul Trollope to slag off the fans is very wise and if he did his history he would see that anyone paying that squad of dross that got us relegated from league 1 what Trolls paid should have no complaints about being sacked. Hes better then that imo A few gardens needs weeding
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 12, 2017 19:15:15 GMT
As much as he and players bask in the plaudits during recent successes, they would be naive to think the same media would not be the opposite after quite a few defeats.
At the moment DC's stock is still very high here but keep blaming fans for his own teams shortcomings could quickly see that deteriorate.
As for Trollope, I remember one of his final games at home to Leyton Orient where I believe Carl Regan got sent off and I remember thinking this team is Dam awful. He for sure would have taken us down.
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Post by axegas on Nov 12, 2017 19:20:58 GMT
He doesn't even criticise the clubs fans. He praised the traveling support and says 95% of supporters are fantastic while admitting that the other 5% are entitled to their opinions. Hardly criticising them? DC always comes across as negative in interviews where we have lost because he's bitterly disappointed that we have lost and likes to say things as they are. Nothing has changed in that regard.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 19:24:24 GMT
He doesn't even criticise the clubs fans. He praised the traveling support and says 95% of supporters are fantastic while admitting that the other 5% are entitled to their opinions. Hardly criticising them? DC always comes across as negative in interviews where we have lost because he's bitterly disappointed that we have lost and likes to say things as they are. Nothing has changed in that regard. If you literally take him word for word rather then reading what he is really trying to put across then he goes to a massive amount of effort to address those 5%. In my view he is a great manager and should not be feeling the pressure he clearly is.
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Post by Nortongashead on Nov 12, 2017 19:25:35 GMT
The only people who are under pressure at our club are the owners and chairmen. The silence is deafening unlike DC who is fronting up and telling the truth.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 19:29:41 GMT
Except for what he said about Paul Trollope which was nonsense. I think his abrasive and slightly arrogant style is better suited to the times we were smashing it. I think he is likely to better survive a tough period on the pitch by changing it.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 12, 2017 19:33:39 GMT
DC puts himself under pressure as he is holding himself to high standards
He also said 95% of the fan base are brilliant. Thats just the truth isnt it at every football club
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 12, 2017 19:34:50 GMT
Is he not right? We're mid table as it is and just as close to the playoffs as we are the relegation zone despite a bad run of results. We've always known DC to be upfront and honest, in fact, when we're doing well we love it but now we're in a bit of a bad run of form we suddenly don't like it? Arguably we were 21st when PT was sacked but do we expect DC to know where we were in the table when PT was sacked, has he not just gone off what PT has said to him about expectations here?
You say "just say it how it is and move on." but that's exactly what he has done?
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 19:38:13 GMT
No he said our fans get bored in mid table league 1 and like to force the managers out (quoting Paul Trollope)
To keep the 95% on board He can put the houdini point in a better way then the Paul Buckle approach imo.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 12, 2017 19:38:48 GMT
Is he not right? We're mid table as it is and just as close to the playoffs as we are the relegation zone despite a bad run of results. We've always known DC to be upfront and honest, in fact, when we're doing well we love it but now we're in a bit of a bad run of form we suddenly don't like it? Arguably we were 21st when PT was sacked but do we expect DC to know where we were in the table when PT was sacked, has he not just gone off what PT has said to him about expectations here? You say "just say it how it is and move on." but that's exactly what he has done? The fans are not getting restless because we are mid table
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Post by peterparker on Nov 12, 2017 19:44:38 GMT
No he said our fans get bored in mid table league 1 and like to force the managers out (quoting Paul Trollope) To keep the 95% on board He can put the houdini point in a better way then the Paul Buckle approach imo. We’ll let the people who want to be negative, be negative – 95 per cent of our support base are fantastic. They’re really pleased with where we are at the minute and they’re realistic with where we are infrastructure wise as a football club. We want to push on.” Of course there are plenty of issues (or not) odff the field about how we improve that side of things, but right now from a football point of view i realise where we are and where we have come back from
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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 12, 2017 19:45:09 GMT
Where has dc quoted trolls ? Is it in one of his recent interviews ? I genuinely don't know where this quote is, can someone tell me where to find it please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 19:48:07 GMT
If us fans criticise DC surely he's allowed to give some back
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Post by gassygas on Nov 12, 2017 19:49:41 GMT
If us fans criticise DC surely he's allowed to give some back I don't think that's how it works!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 12, 2017 19:51:37 GMT
If us fans criticise DC surely he's allowed to give some back Managers who criticise fans don't usually last very long. Paying customers can say what they want, DC should be more professional.
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