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Post by adrian301 on Nov 18, 2017 21:23:08 GMT
Sometimes our team cries out for a Dave Pritchard or Ian Alexander tackle!!
I don't buy into all this defensive coaching. Out of all the disciplines it has to be the easiest. It's all about shape and distances, which you adapt to depending on the opposition.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 21:30:12 GMT
Slocombe
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Partington Lockyer Sweeney
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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 18, 2017 21:45:14 GMT
True , He just looked lost today, as did the rest of them both brown and Lockyer were terrible today, the first two goals conceded were things I see on a Sunday morning at under 14 level. Brown for the second just kept backing off and backing off, don't get me wrong the finish was superb but the lead up to it was dreadful So if you were Brown would you dive in on the goalscorer and then let Taylor a clean run at goal once the ball was slipped through to him? I've no idea what was going on with our central defenders today but how did they manage to let Taylor get our wide totally unmarked? To be fair to Brown little came down his side it all came down our right/though our soft the middle. Assuming BB can last 90 mins, or even just the first 45 mins, then here's my starting 11 for Blackburn, after the shocking start at Roachdale I'd never start with wing backs. If BB's not up to start then I'd give Broom a chance. One things for sure I'd bench OC! Smith Leads Locks Sweeney Brown BB Lines Sincs Sercs Ellis Gaffers No I wouldn't of gone diving in , he more or less invited the goal scorer to shoot as he wouldn't make a challenge , he backed off three times all he had to do was make a challenge.
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Post by ineedgas on Nov 18, 2017 21:48:22 GMT
Count lockyer out because he's to good for this level of football after all he's a international player now (so he seemed to think today)
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Post by socrates on Nov 18, 2017 21:53:56 GMT
SLOCOMBE IN GOAL - smith may make better one-off saves but slocombe is calmer, a better communicator, organiser, steady and a better choice overall so should have the shirt. Ok so we are conceding goals like the are going out of fashion so - PLAY 3 CENTRE BACKS We have no width in midfield in the squad of any quality so PLAY WING BACKS They can shuffle the other midfield and striker positions about but this needs to be our base to give defensive stability and coverage out wide which we desperately lack! IMO with a bit of defensive discipline we can grind out some results and then turn this around with some additions in January! UTG! 💙 You make some very good points. We’re lacking in width and playing 4-3-3 or 44-2 without a natural wide player on the pitch until Bodin came on today ( and he likes to cut inside )and it’s killing us. I also think that although Sercombe is a good player I dont think he can play alongside lines and that has massively disrupted our midfield balance, perhaps it needs to be one or the other ? I like Sercombe I think hes got fantastic quality and Lines has created more goals for us than anyone over the last three years but we are so soft without the ball with those two there when we’ve got no width the opposition can attack as out wide or through the center at will with no real resistance with our current set up and formation. We’ve got no leaders on the pitch , our captain is 22 I think ? and watching young Tom after each of the three Goals today he was quiet and head down a bit of hand clapping and a few words to his team mates but not enough to suggest he’s captain material. We need some experience in ASAP and D.C. needs to drop the players that aren’t performing and stick with the ones that do. We haven’t turned in to a bad side over night we’ve got enough quality to finish mid table again but only if it’s used properly and we bring some leaders in. I’d like to see Lee Mansell take a role at the club that has him and on the pitch before the game and on the side lines during it. Get mildenhal working with the keeper and defence at gelling as a unit. Those experienced players that we’re missing are still at the club but I feel they’re not involved enough I could be wrong ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2017 22:01:40 GMT
SLOCOMBE IN GOAL - smith may make better one-off saves but slocombe is calmer, a better communicator, organiser, steady and a better choice overall so should have the shirt. Ok so we are conceding goals like the are going out of fashion so - PLAY 3 CENTRE BACKS We have no width in midfield in the squad of any quality so PLAY WING BACKS They can shuffle the other midfield and striker positions about but this needs to be our base to give defensive stability and coverage out wide which we desperately lack! IMO with a bit of defensive discipline we can grind out some results and then turn this around with some additions in January! UTG! 💙 You make some very good points. We’re lacking in width and playing 4-3-3 or 44-2 without a natural wide player on the pitch until Bodin came on today ( and he likes to cut inside )and it’s killing us. I also think that although Sercombe is a good player I dont think he can play alongside lines and that has massively disrupted our midfield balance, perhaps it needs to be one or the other ? I like Sercombe I think hes got fantastic quality and Lines has created more goals for us than anyone over the last three years but we are so soft without the ball with those two there when we’ve got no width the opposition can attack as out wide or through the center at will with no real resistance with our current set up and formation. We’ve got no leaders on the pitch , our captain is 22 I think ? and watching young Tom after each of the three Goals today he was quiet and head down a bit of hand clapping and a few words to his team mates but not enough to suggest he’s captain material. We need some experience in ASAP and D.C. needs to drop the players that aren’t performing and stick with the ones that do. We haven’t turned in to a bad side over night we’ve got enough quality to finish mid table again but only if it’s used properly and we bring some leaders in.I’d like to see Lee Mansell take a role at the club that has him and on the pitch before the game and on the side lines during it. Get mildenhal working with the keeper and defence at gelling as a unit. Those experienced players that we’re missing are still at the club but I feel they’re not involved enough I could be wrong ?It's been a gradual turn though since around the P'boro game last season, not sure how DC will turn this around, LJ somehow did it at the 82ers but usually managers struggle to get teams out of a losing rut like we're now on.. As far as Captain given DC doesn't rate Lines there aren't any obvious candidates but using your argument Locks hasn't turned into a bad Captain overnight. Perhaps Mildy they are training the Academy players miles away from the 1st team squad, they can't be in two places at once?
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Post by Thatslife on Nov 18, 2017 22:09:00 GMT
Play Lockyer in front of the back the back 4 to close down that area just outside our box. This would also free up Lines to play more in the middle of the midfield instead of being at the back of it, with Sercome alongside him and BB out wide. Harrison and Gaffers up top.
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Post by socrates on Nov 18, 2017 23:16:09 GMT
You make some very good points. We’re lacking in width and playing 4-3-3 or 44-2 without a natural wide player on the pitch until Bodin came on today ( and he likes to cut inside )and it’s killing us. I also think that although Sercombe is a good player I dont think he can play alongside lines and that has massively disrupted our midfield balance, perhaps it needs to be one or the other ? I like Sercombe I think hes got fantastic quality and Lines has created more goals for us than anyone over the last three years but we are so soft without the ball with those two there when we’ve got no width the opposition can attack as out wide or through the center at will with no real resistance with our current set up and formation. We’ve got no leaders on the pitch , our captain is 22 I think ? and watching young Tom after each of the three Goals today he was quiet and head down a bit of hand clapping and a few words to his team mates but not enough to suggest he’s captain material. We need some experience in ASAP and D.C. needs to drop the players that aren’t performing and stick with the ones that do. We haven’t turned in to a bad side over night we’ve got enough quality to finish mid table again but only if it’s used properly and we bring some leaders in.I’d like to see Lee Mansell take a role at the club that has him and on the pitch before the game and on the side lines during it. Get mildenhal working with the keeper and defence at gelling as a unit. Those experienced players that we’re missing are still at the club but I feel they’re not involved enough I could be wrong ?It's been a gradual turn though since around the P'boro game last season, not sure how DC will turn this around, LJ somehow did it at the 82ers but usually managers struggle to get teams out of a losing rut like we're now on.. As far as Captain given DC doesn't rate Lines there aren't any obvious candidates but using your argument Locks hasn't turned into a bad Captain overnight. Perhaps Mildy they are training the Academy players miles away from the 1st team squad, they can't be in two places at once? Then perhaps things need to be shaken up a bit. Get mildenhall and Mansel over to the first team training ground three times a week working on the shape ? It’s all well and good having these experienced retired pros working with the kids but the first team have been defending like kids they need direction that much is obvious and Lockyer looks like an inexperienced center half with a mistake in him every game not a captain.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 18, 2017 23:59:34 GMT
Sometimes our team cries out for a Dave Pritchard or Ian Alexander tackle!! I don't buy into all this defensive coaching. Out of all the disciplines it has to be the easiest. It's all about shape and distances, which you adapt to depending on the opposition. modern coaching encourages players not to tackle but I do agree with you - watch the ball and time your tackle ! Thought Gomez did that well v Neymar.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 0:17:45 GMT
For me. Smith did well today. He made a drop, but without him it could have been 6 or more. I’d go back to Sweeney and Locks. We know at a point in time, this has worked. And I’d give them a proper run. Browner, and leads. Sincs, Lines, Sercs, Bodin Gaffney and Nicholls up top. Totally agree with Sweeney and Locks, as well as Gaffney and Nicholls. I'd personally go with Slocombe in goal and Partington at right back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 1:16:43 GMT
Count lockyer out because he's to good for this level of football after all he's a international player now (so he seemed to think today) you can read his mind?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 7:53:08 GMT
SLOCOMBE IN GOAL - smith may make better one-off saves but slocombe is calmer, a better communicator, organiser, steady and a better choice overall so should have the shirt. Ok so we are conceding goals like the are going out of fashion so - PLAY 3 CENTRE BACKS We have no width in midfield in the squad of any quality so PLAY WING BACKS They can shuffle the other midfield and striker positions about but this needs to be our base to give defensive stability and coverage out wide which we desperately lack! IMO with a bit of defensive discipline we can grind out some results and then turn this around with some additions in January! UTG! 💙 You make some very good points. We’re lacking in width and playing 4-3-3 or 44-2 without a natural wide player on the pitch until Bodin came on today ( and he likes to cut inside )and it’s killing us. I also think that although Sercombe is a good player I dont think he can play alongside lines and that has massively disrupted our midfield balance, perhaps it needs to be one or the other ? I like Sercombe I think hes got fantastic quality and Lines has created more goals for us than anyone over the last three years but we are so soft without the ball with those two there when we’ve got no width the opposition can attack as out wide or through the center at will with no real resistance with our current set up and formation. We’ve got no leaders on the pitch , our captain is 22 I think ? and watching young Tom after each of the three Goals today he was quiet and head down a bit of hand clapping and a few words to his team mates but not enough to suggest he’s captain material. We need some experience in ASAP and D.C. needs to drop the players that aren’t performing and stick with the ones that do. We haven’t turned in to a bad side over night we’ve got enough quality to finish mid table again but only if it’s used properly and we bring some leaders in. I’d like to see Lee Mansell take a role at the club that has him and on the pitch before the game and on the side lines during it. Get mildenhal working with the keeper and defence at gelling as a unit. Those experienced players that we’re missing are still at the club but I feel they’re not involved enough I could be wrong ? thanks for the reply- lines and sercombe can play together if they have someone dedicated to sitting behind them - on form atm Sinclair as Clarke has been missing - we should allow lines and sercombe to get at teams and be our creative threat as that is their strength rather than expect them to get back in shape all the time - no point trying to play squares in round holes!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 7:54:59 GMT
You make some very good points. We’re lacking in width and playing 4-3-3 or 44-2 without a natural wide player on the pitch until Bodin came on today ( and he likes to cut inside )and it’s killing us. I also think that although Sercombe is a good player I dont think he can play alongside lines and that has massively disrupted our midfield balance, perhaps it needs to be one or the other ? I like Sercombe I think hes got fantastic quality and Lines has created more goals for us than anyone over the last three years but we are so soft without the ball with those two there when we’ve got no width the opposition can attack as out wide or through the center at will with no real resistance with our current set up and formation. We’ve got no leaders on the pitch , our captain is 22 I think ? and watching young Tom after each of the three Goals today he was quiet and head down a bit of hand clapping and a few words to his team mates but not enough to suggest he’s captain material. We need some experience in ASAP and D.C. needs to drop the players that aren’t performing and stick with the ones that do. We haven’t turned in to a bad side over night we’ve got enough quality to finish mid table again but only if it’s used properly and we bring some leaders in. I’d like to see Lee Mansell take a role at the club that has him and on the pitch before the game and on the side lines during it. Get mildenhal working with the keeper and defence at gelling as a unit. Those experienced players that we’re missing are still at the club but I feel they’re not involved enough I could be wrong ? thanks for the reply- lines and sercombe can play together if they have someone dedicated to sitting behind them - on form atm Sinclair as Clarke has been missing - we should allow lines and sercombe to get at teams and be our creative threat as that is their strength rather than expect them to get back in shape all the time - no point trying to play squares in round holes! it’s like the old gerrard, scholes and lampard debate - they could do it if someone picked carrick behind them!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 7:56:26 GMT
thanks for the reply- lines and sercombe can play together if they have someone dedicated to sitting behind them - on form atm Sinclair as Clarke has been missing - we should allow lines and sercombe to get at teams and be our creative threat as that is their strength rather than expect them to get back in shape all the time - no point trying to play squares in round holes! it’s like the old gerrard, scholes and lampard debate - they could do it if someone picked carrick behind them! we do need a solid new experienced physical DM who can play a pass as Sinclair is just a blocker!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 19, 2017 8:13:03 GMT
it’s like the old gerrard, scholes and lampard debate - they could do it if someone picked carrick behind them! we do need a solid new experienced physical DM who can play a pass as Sinclair is just a blocker! Sinclair is a great fella. Was very good in the conference, but certainly out of his depth in division 1
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2017 8:25:41 GMT
we do need a solid new experienced physical DM who can play a pass as Sinclair is just a blocker! Sinclair is a great fella. Was very good in the conference, but certainly out of his depth in division 1 Thought he looked a damn sight better than OC in midfield for the last 30 mins yesterday. David Batty even played for England being a similar type of player. If we took out a battler like Sincs just how bad would we look!
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Nov 19, 2017 8:30:15 GMT
Anyone know if we got any players from reserves u21 etc would be able to step up to first team?? Mix it up a bit ?any worth at least a chance?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 8:34:20 GMT
Anyone know if we got any players from reserves u21 etc would be able to step up to first team?? Mix it up a bit ?any worth at least a chance? especially wingers!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 8:35:30 GMT
Anyone know if we got any players from reserves u21 etc would be able to step up to first team?? Mix it up a bit ?any worth at least a chance? especially wingers!!! the nature of the position is inconsistent so worth giving one a game as you never know what pace and directness can bring!
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Nov 19, 2017 8:40:53 GMT
the nature of the position is inconsistent so worth giving one a game as you never know what pace and directness can bring! surely must be one young lad no fear would at least give opposition something to think about?
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