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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 21:30:04 GMT
Firstly...who said Hani Al Qadi held the purse strings ? Is this one of those things that is taken as fact because it has been repeated over and over but is based on no evidence at all ? I suggest the family are equal partners in the venture ,but Wael is president as he is the one with the football desire within him. It would appear that on major issues the family discuss the pros and cons then decide between themselves on what gets the go ahead. Some members may be more cavalier with spending than others. I believe that they set out a basic plan before taking over and will try to stick to that plan as best as possible. As much as BCFC fans would enjoy it...this is not a pantomime where there are heroes and villians. Its a family business. As said above, it was pretty much confirmed in Hamer's interview. That in itself I found a point of interest as previously it seemed like forum speculation and rumour that Hani was the money man and I was hoping Hamer would rubbish it and explain that Wael was much a part of the club finances as anyone else....then he explained that he was meeting with Hani the following morning after the radio show to discuss the budget going forward. No mention at all of Wael being involved, just Hamer and Hani having a cosy chat. I am increasingly of the opinion that Wael is little more than a spare part in the DS machinery.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 12, 2017 21:34:24 GMT
Firstly...who said Hani Al Qadi held the purse strings ? Is this one of those things that is taken as fact because it has been repeated over and over but is based on no evidence at all ? I suggest the family are equal partners in the venture ,but Wael is president as he is the one with the football desire within him. It would appear that on major issues the family discuss the pros and cons then decide between themselves on what gets the go ahead. Some members may be more cavalier with spending than others. I believe that they set out a basic plan before taking over and will try to stick to that plan as best as possible. As much as BCFC fans would enjoy it...this is not a pantomime where there are heroes and villians. Its a family business. SH did suggest Hani is the main man but whether he makes all the decisions without any debate with his other family members seems unlikely. If he did why did he give the OK for Wael to buy Rovers in the first place.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 12, 2017 22:02:45 GMT
Hani has always been in charge of the money, just the same as when the ALQs bought the club. Wael has no say in how the bank is run and has no say on how much money there is to spend at Bristol Rovers. How can you be so certain about Rovers, have either SH or Wael actually told you this themselves, as I assume they are the only ones who really know at Rovers? SH said in his interview with 20man. Meeting with Hani for a financial review. Hani is the money man but not the football man. Previous directors have also told me when it came to negotiations that it was Hani they dealt with when it came to the financials. Some people are finding it hard to accept that Wael has no influence whatsoever in the input of money. We only get it if Hani says so. We have nothing to prove otherwise but plenty of evidence from our chairman himself that Hani is the one with the wallet.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 12, 2017 22:10:58 GMT
Firstly...who said Hani Al Qadi held the purse strings ? Is this one of those things that is taken as fact because it has been repeated over and over but is based on no evidence at all ? I suggest the family are equal partners in the venture ,but Wael is president as he is the one with the football desire within him. It would appear that on major issues the family discuss the pros and cons then decide between themselves on what gets the go ahead. Some members may be more cavalier with spending than others. I believe that they set out a basic plan before taking over and will try to stick to that plan as best as possible. As much as BCFC fans would enjoy it...this is not a pantomime where there are heroes and villians. Its a family business. SH did suggest Hani is the main man but whether he makes all the decisions without any debate with his other family members seems unlikely. If he did why did he give the OK for Wael to buy Rovers in the first place. That’s the point you are missing topper. Wael did not buy BRFC. The ALQ family did The family financially is run by Hani. If Wael did buy us and had DS listed with him as sole director, with a share certificate saying he owned 92% and with his signature of guarantee on the accounts to say he was underpinning the loss, then I might change my position. But he didn’t, he isn’t, he doesn’t and can’t to all of the above.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:39:24 GMT
Firstly...who said Hani Al Qadi held the purse strings ? Is this one of those things that is taken as fact because it has been repeated over and over but is based on no evidence at all ? I suggest the family are equal partners in the venture ,but Wael is president as he is the one with the football desire within him. It would appear that on major issues the family discuss the pros and cons then decide between themselves on what gets the go ahead. Some members may be more cavalier with spending than others. I believe that they set out a basic plan before taking over and will try to stick to that plan as best as possible. As much as BCFC fans would enjoy it...this is not a pantomime where there are heroes and villians. Its a family business. As said above, it was pretty much confirmed in Hamer's interview. That in itself I found a point of interest as previously it seemed like forum speculation and rumour that Hani was the money man and I was hoping Hamer would rubbish it and explain that Wael was much a part of the club finances as anyone else....then he explained that he was meeting with Hani the following morning after the radio show to discuss the budget going forward. No mention at all of Wael being involved, just Hamer and Hani having a cosy chat. I am increasingly of the opinion that Wael is little more than a spare part in the DS machinery. It does depend on how you read into anything I guess. SH could have been meeting the "accountant " of the company (Hani) As SH needs more funds ,so how do they do this to remain within FFP rules. (for example). The assumption is that SH goes to Hani on his knees with a begging bowl...this may be far from the truth. The budget may have already have been agreed by the family Hani may just be the one who ensures it is done the best way for maximum affect (?)
If SH is the man facilitating transfers and budgets etc ,there will be no need for Wael to go along . That's not Waels department is it (?) he does the "this is how to build a club from the bottom" bit. The public face bit . Im sure other members of the family also bring their unique bit to the club as well.
Or we could just be owned by Hani Al Qadi and everyone else is just a minion for him.(?)
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Post by knowall on Dec 13, 2017 18:12:23 GMT
How can you be so certain about Rovers, have either SH or Wael actually told you this themselves, as I assume they are the only ones who really know at Rovers? SH said in his interview with 20man. Meeting with Hani for a financial review. Hani is the money man but not the football man. Previous directors have also told me when it came to negotiations that it was Hani they dealt with when it came to the financials. Some people are finding it hard to accept that Wael has no influence whatsoever in the input of money. We only get it if Hani says so. We have nothing to prove otherwise but plenty of evidence from our chairman himself that Hani is the one with the wallet. And some people are finding it difficult to accept that Wael does have influence in the input of money gashead1981 and Ware and Twatola (previous Directors although Twatola never was). We have nothing to prove you say!!!!!!!! - but you are party to another agenda.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 13, 2017 22:00:05 GMT
SH did suggest Hani is the main man but whether he makes all the decisions without any debate with his other family members seems unlikely. If he did why did he give the OK for Wael to buy Rovers in the first place. That’s the point you are missing topper. Wael did not buy BRFC. The ALQ family did The family financially is run by Hani. If Wael did buy us and had DS listed with him as sole director, with a share certificate saying he owned 92% and with his signature of guarantee on the accounts to say he was underpinning the loss, then I might change my position. But he didn’t, he isn’t, he doesn’t and can’t to all of the above. What's your evidence that Hani has 100% control over the ALQ finances and that Wael has zero input? Just the apparent say so of a former director one who very nearly took the club to oblivion when he sat on the BoD and one who now seems to have a vested interest in the present owners failing?
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 13, 2017 23:30:44 GMT
I have no agenda whatsoever. I am hopeful the ALQs are going to do something for us.however there are just no plans, no vision and a lack of cohesion.
What part of the SH interview did you not hear and his comments regarding Hani?
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Post by lincsblue on Sept 24, 2018 17:22:29 GMT
Hani has always been in charge of the money, just the same as when the ALQs bought the club. Wael has no say in how the bank is run and has no say on how much money there is to spend at Bristol Rovers. How about Sami ? Just took a browse through the AJIB accounts, and see that Samer is no longer a Director, and hasn't been since April 26th 2016
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Post by hargravegas on Sept 24, 2018 17:58:27 GMT
I’ve always said the family business allowed Wael to invest a bit of money in his ‘Hobby’, they’ve been clear with all the evolution not revolution stuff that they aren’t going to throw lots of cash at us, so we need our manager to deliver a better performance than the budget he is given,(like Paul Hurst did at Shrewsbury last year) and recently we haven’t been seeing that.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 24, 2018 18:17:30 GMT
For f**ks sake how many more threads on this ? honestly, this forum is obsessed with finances. Mods, for the love of God, please merge with all the other identical threads and create a special section away from Gas Works
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