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Post by singupgas on Dec 28, 2017 14:20:59 GMT
We are predictable I know that much, every attack seems to end up going out wide to leadbitter who cannot take the ball inside, push the ball to a his right before crossing it in.
Occassionlly we will get sercombe or bodin try to do something different and go through the middle..
Generally, our defenders thus season have been all over the place and run out of ideas fast, so many long diagonal balls.
It's all just very disjointed, I think too many of the players just aren't good enough at league 1 now and struggle..
Until better players come in and are comfortable on the ball the style of play will continue to be predictable, rushed, long balls.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 28, 2017 15:38:17 GMT
How would you describe our style of play. For me we play the diagonal ball too often and don't try and play pretty football enough. Hopefully after January we will have more options especially out wide and we can try and play football more in general. That diagonal ball in the Conference, usually to Monkhouse, was very effective. Got us lots of goals. Was always a good way out! UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 28, 2017 15:43:45 GMT
Don’t think we play hoof ball. Depends upon the team. When we play confidently and BB on form we play short, quick style and try to keep possession. But sometimes, probably too often this season, without confidence too many long balls are played. Mind you I understand why, to keep the ball as far away from our defence as possible! UTG!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 28, 2017 16:36:42 GMT
I call his current style of play 'As good as it can be given the circumstances'. Gambled on releasing a winger for a better one that didn't come in, so we have had to play a more direct style of football than what even DC probably isn't happy with. But this IMO is the most important transfer window under his tenure because we have a lot of deadwood (Who I can't thank enough for getting us back to where we are today) which DC has already identified and will be out, but has pleaded to be backed by the board to get the quality players we need to progress. We finally see if the Family and Hamer will back DC or whether it really is just a show. I prey it's the first. Can't help but feel we will bet let down yet again. Probably a couple of players on loan. If Bodin goes then I would be very concerned. Didn't go to Walsall but against Doncaster we may have well played with 10 as he was clearly more concerned with getting injured than helping the team.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 28, 2017 18:20:32 GMT
We are predictable I know that much, every attack seems to end up going out wide to leadbitter who cannot take the ball inside, push the ball to a his right before crossing it in. Occassionlly we will get sercombe or bodin try to do something different and go through the middle.. Generally, our defenders thus season have been all over the place and run out of ideas fast, so many long diagonal balls.
It's all just very disjointed, I think too many of the players just aren't good enough at league 1 now and struggle..
Until better players come in and are comfortable on the ball the style of play will continue to be predictable, rushed, long balls.Agree with this. I think at the start of the season DC wanted us to play through the thirds - and so he picked Sercs and Lines together. But when players lost their form (and passing accuracy) - the back four and midfielders, DC reverted more to long balls - quite often diagonal ones. Now. with no lines until very recently we have bi-passed the midfield a lot. Harrison has had to deal with a lot of high balls. Ive also noticed that for around a month or so we no longer leave anyone up front when we are defending a corner - so no outlet now. I would like us to play from the back - but as Singup says we haven't got the players at the back (keeper too) who have the ability/confidence to do it !?
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Post by yategasman on Dec 28, 2017 18:22:56 GMT
Crap
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Post by markczgas on Dec 28, 2017 18:27:25 GMT
what my post or Rovers style of play ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 18:51:30 GMT
We are predictable I know that much, every attack seems to end up going out wide to leadbitter who cannot take the ball inside, push the ball to a his right before crossing it in. Occassionlly we will get sercombe or bodin try to do something different and go through the middle.. Generally, our defenders thus season have been all over the place and run out of ideas fast, so many long diagonal balls.
It's all just very disjointed, I think too many of the players just aren't good enough at league 1 now and struggle..
Until better players come in and are comfortable on the ball the style of play will continue to be predictable, rushed, long balls.Agree with this. I think at the start of the season DC wanted us to play through the thirds - and so he picked Sercs and Lines together. But when players lost their form (and passing accuracy) - the back four and midfielders, DC reverted more to long balls - quite often diagonal ones. Now. with no lines until very recently we have bi-passed the midfield a lot. Harrison has had to deal with a lot of high balls. Ive also noticed that for around a month or so we no longer leave anyone up front when we are defending a corner - so no outlet now. I would like us to play from the back - but as Singup says we haven't got the players at the back (keeper too) who have the ability/confidence to do it !? I agree with much of that although having defenders with better technical ability and confidence is just part of the issue. All too often the back four and keeper are looking for the pass to feet but the midfield is often hiding or lack clever movement to get in a decent position to receive the ball. I feel sorry for the likes of Locks who is looking for options, none available and when he then lumps it or passes sideways/backwards gets moaned at by the fans
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Post by yategasman on Dec 28, 2017 19:05:16 GMT
what my post or Rovers style of play ;-) The post is brilliant the style of play not so good but for me to call it crap is a bit harsh to be honest😜
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 28, 2017 20:27:31 GMT
Not Swansea’s cup of tea then?
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Post by aghast on Dec 28, 2017 20:49:22 GMT
Not Swansea’s cup of tea then?
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Dec 28, 2017 21:33:25 GMT
When Rovers are on song it is excellent. Just haven't been on song too much recently. Injuries and lack of confidence doesn't help.
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Post by socrates on Dec 28, 2017 22:21:55 GMT
When Rovers are on song it is excellent. Just haven't been on song too much recently. Injuries and lack of confidence doesn't help. Lack of wide players has hurt us most. We’re at our best these last three years when we’ve played 4-4-2 with Lines always beside first Mansel and then in form Olly Clarke. We really mixed it up with a combination of one twos between our full backs and midfielders and wingers , some good quality crosses and there were plenty of Goals going in that way. Lines would receive the ball from the right then spread it out to the left , Browner would over lap and sides couldn’t handle it , doubling up and over lapping even in league 1 last season it was very good. We also played a lot of long diagonal balls to Taylor and his movement meant that this worked really well. This season we’re seeing pretty much just the diagonal long ball to Ellis but the problem is when you do that club constantly it becomes easy to play against. Attacking wise lee Brown has been very important for us in previous seasons but that’s always been with either a winger or preferably a right footed left midfielder in front of him, he hasn’t had that this season has in the 4-3-3 we’re too narrow. Ellis is winning a lot of his headers from those diagonal balls but we’re not getting our other attacking players close enough to him to pick up the lay offs and knock downs, think Deven White , he alwYs had mehew , Holloway etc within ten yards of him as he brought that ball down from Jones. We’re a very different side to watch this season that’s for sure. I don’t like the formation . Dcs success has been mostly 4-4-2 , both our promotions were built on it. 2 quick wingers in January will see us play much better I feel. Montano wasn’t great last season but he was direct and wide and it gave us balance and someone for brown to work off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 0:12:01 GMT
Can't help but feel we will bet let down yet again. Probably a couple of players on loan. If Bodin goes then I would be very concerned. Didn't go to Walsall but against Doncaster we may have well played with 10 as he was clearly more concerned with getting injured than helping the team. Thats just rubbish youve imagined though isnt it? Bodins a ball player,a skillful touch player who can score goals. During his whole time at the club hes had games that have just passed him bye,hes that type of player.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 0:32:24 GMT
When Rovers are on song it is excellent. Just haven't been on song too much recently. Injuries and lack of confidence doesn't help. Lack of wide players has hurt us most. We’re at our best these last three years when we’ve played 4-4-2 with Lines always beside first Mansel and then in form Olly Clarke. We really mixed it up with a combination of one twos between our full backs and midfielders and wingers , some good quality crosses and there were plenty of Goals going in that way. Lines would receive the ball from the right then spread it out to the left , Browner would over lap and sides couldn’t handle it , doubling up and over lapping even in league 1 last season it was very good. We also played a lot of long diagonal balls to Taylor and his movement meant that this worked really well. This season we’re seeing pretty much just the diagonal long ball to Ellis but the problem is when you do that club constantly it becomes easy to play against. Attacking wise lee Brown has been very important for us in previous seasons but that’s always been with either a winger or preferably a right footed left midfielder in front of him, he hasn’t had that this season has in the 4-3-3 we’re too narrow. Ellis is winning a lot of his headers from those diagonal balls but we’re not getting our other attacking players close enough to him to pick up the lay offs and knock downs, think Deven White , he alwYs had mehew , Holloway etc within ten yards of him as he brought that ball down from Jones. We’re a very different side to watch this season that’s for sure. I don’t like the formation . Dcs success has been mostly 4-4-2 , both our promotions were built on it. 2 quick wingers in January will see us play much better I feel. Montano wasn’t great last season but he was direct and wide and it gave us balance and someone for brown to work off. Its true that most of our success with dc has been with the 4-4-2 formation even though i believe we sometimes had less possession than our opponents[my opinion]. It seems as if dc lost faith with wingers and went for a narrow approach maybe to try and dominate possession more? I think hes asked to much of the full backs as a consequence of having no wingers which in turn has made us more fragile defensively[over committing full backs]. I reckon one flying winger and Keep it simple intelligent footballer type winger[like monkhouse] would be good.
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Post by socrates on Dec 29, 2017 0:43:22 GMT
Lack of wide players has hurt us most. We’re at our best these last three years when we’ve played 4-4-2 with Lines always beside first Mansel and then in form Olly Clarke. We really mixed it up with a combination of one twos between our full backs and midfielders and wingers , some good quality crosses and there were plenty of Goals going in that way. Lines would receive the ball from the right then spread it out to the left , Browner would over lap and sides couldn’t handle it , doubling up and over lapping even in league 1 last season it was very good. We also played a lot of long diagonal balls to Taylor and his movement meant that this worked really well. This season we’re seeing pretty much just the diagonal long ball to Ellis but the problem is when you do that club constantly it becomes easy to play against. Attacking wise lee Brown has been very important for us in previous seasons but that’s always been with either a winger or preferably a right footed left midfielder in front of him, he hasn’t had that this season has in the 4-3-3 we’re too narrow. Ellis is winning a lot of his headers from those diagonal balls but we’re not getting our other attacking players close enough to him to pick up the lay offs and knock downs, think Deven White , he alwYs had mehew , Holloway etc within ten yards of him as he brought that ball down from Jones. We’re a very different side to watch this season that’s for sure. I don’t like the formation . Dcs success has been mostly 4-4-2 , both our promotions were built on it. 2 quick wingers in January will see us play much better I feel. Montano wasn’t great last season but he was direct and wide and it gave us balance and someone for brown to work off. Its true that most of our success with dc has been with the 4-4-2 formation even though i believe we sometimes had less possession than our opponents[my opinion]. It seems as if dc lost faith with wingers and went for a narrow approach maybe to try and dominate possession more? I think hes asked to much of the full backs as a consequence of having no wingers which in turn has made us more fragile defensively[over committing full backs]. I reckon one flying winger and Keep it simple intelligent footballer type winger[like monkhouse] would be good. Yeah totally agree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 2:35:13 GMT
Dont be too hard on yourself tbone in the future you might get to grips with the game and that will be nice. Until then you are right,you are clueless.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 29, 2017 7:21:30 GMT
Until this season we had a very fluid but direct style of play keeping it more on the floor but we also had Taylor who could drift into positions unnoticed or unlock a defence with a run that allowed others space or make the assist himself.
Our team more or less focused around him.
Since Jan last year we lost that style and the lack of wingers has meant we have been one dimensional and predictable since. I believe if we get 2 wingers and a right fb this window it would unlock formations and styles that DC is used to playing.
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Post by gaseous on Dec 29, 2017 7:43:48 GMT
Until this season we had a very fluid but direct style of play keeping it more on the floor but we also had Taylor who could drift into positions unnoticed or unlock a defence with a run that allowed others space or make the assist himself. Our team more or less focused around him. Since Jan last year we lost that style and the lack of wingers has meant we have been one dimensional and predictable since. I believe if we get 2 wingers and a right fb this window it would unlock formations and styles that DC is used to playing. I agree and add to that a good ball winning CM to break up the opposition's play and give it to Lines or Sercombe. Then I think we'll be back to our best. As someone else said earlier, the pitch is not helping to get the ball down and play good passing football. In DC we trust. UTG
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Post by Fat Albert on Dec 29, 2017 7:48:40 GMT
The only fIaw I see in most of this is although people have diagnosed the problem we all know we are notoriously bad in the January window. I should think Bodin will be off and the best we’ll get is a couple of loans in return. It’s hard to gain any real momentum with other clubs players. Don’t get me wrong we’ve had s few good ones but wouldn’t it be nice if just once we went out and actually bought 3 players at say Sercombes level. What a difference that would make!
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