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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 2, 2018 23:21:17 GMT
Exactly, I can't believe some of our fans want us to sell a young leader who's already made a senior appearance for his country. Would you really class Tom Lockyer as a leader? I would say he's anything but. He's been made captain, but with him as captain we've had one of the worst defences in the division at this level over the last 18 months. Also him being capped by Wales say's more about the lack of players available to them than anything else, not about Lockyers form. Yes he's only 23 and he's racked up over 200 games which is superb, and he's got time on his side to improve, but I just dont think he is as good as people are making out. I haven't said I wanted us to sell him per se, but if we were to get a good offer for him, 500k+ then I reckon that would be too good for us to turn down. I'd be hugely disappointed if we let him go for only 500k
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 23:42:21 GMT
Would you really class Tom Lockyer as a leader? I would say he's anything but. He's been made captain, but with him as captain we've had one of the worst defences in the division at this level over the last 18 months. Also him being capped by Wales say's more about the lack of players available to them than anything else, not about Lockyers form. Yes he's only 23 and he's racked up over 200 games which is superb, and he's got time on his side to improve, but I just dont think he is as good as people are making out. I haven't said I wanted us to sell him per se, but if we were to get a good offer for him, 500k+ then I reckon that would be too good for us to turn down. I'd be hugely disappointed if we let him go for only 500k With Lockyer at the heart of our defence we've shipped 113 goals in League One over the last season and a half. When you consider Aiden Flint only cost the sh*t 300k, and he's one of the best defenders outside The Premier League currently, I think 500k for Lockyer would be great business. I cant see why anybody would be disapointed if we got 500k+ for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:50:51 GMT
Lots of twiiter rumours including Eoin Doyle as part-exchange for Bodin...would free up Gaffney for rumoured move to Wigan and give DC a good wedge of cash to play with.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 2, 2018 23:52:37 GMT
You better have a word with DC then and explain what he is doing wrong!! I could say that would be a waste of time ask dc but at the moment after all the bashing a I have had trying to show some sense on here I am prepared to wait until the end of Jan when the majority of people on here are convinced that pud fortunes on the pitch will change for the better, saying that cracking win against Pompey and 2 useful away points i wait to be proved wrong but don't think so somehow What would you consider proof of your wrongness?
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Post by pirate on Jan 3, 2018 0:04:51 GMT
Lots of twiiter rumours including Eoin Doyle as part-exchange for Bodin...would free up Gaffney for rumoured move to Wigan and give DC a good wedge of cash to play with. Doyle could be out for anything up to 4 months if the talk about his blood clot is true.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 3, 2018 0:05:50 GMT
Lots of twiiter rumours including Eoin Doyle as part-exchange for Bodin...would free up Gaffney for rumoured move to Wigan and give DC a good wedge of cash to play with. Gaffney to Wigan?! What's next? Harrison to Shrewsbury?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 0:19:43 GMT
Lots of twiiter rumours including Eoin Doyle as part-exchange for Bodin...would free up Gaffney for rumoured move to Wigan and give DC a good wedge of cash to play with. Doyle could be out for anything up to 4 months if the talk about his blood clot is true. Yes, I read the same but could have been a good deal if only out for a few weeks as first thought ...still only rumours.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 0:20:56 GMT
Lots of twiiter rumours including Eoin Doyle as part-exchange for Bodin...would free up Gaffney for rumoured move to Wigan and give DC a good wedge of cash to play with. Gaffney to Wigan?! What's next? Harrison to Shrewsbury? Now that's a rumour I've not read yet are you should you don't mean Brown to Exeter?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 3, 2018 1:04:34 GMT
Lockyer has been and continues to be a quality player for us and a model pro. As a club we have invested so much into his development and he has given us a great deal back. I would be gutted if we lost him, more so than any other player we have. He was a good Conference Defender. He was a decent League 2 Defender. But for me he has been a bang average League 1 Defender so far in the 18 months or so he's played at this level. He is only 23, and already played over 200 games for the club which is brilliant, but if we were to get a bid of 500k+ for him which is what I mean by good money, then I think we should bite whichever club it was hands off No. I disagree with your comments there. Tom really came into his own and was far more influential at centre back in league 2 than he was at right back in the conference. He has learned on the job at this level and been a bit error prone at times, but has also shown some real quality in his play. He reads the game very well and is brave. I see him as a future Championship player. He will only get better, mainly because he is such a good pro and always keen to add to his game. An example is how much more comfortable he looks on the ball now to a couple of years ago. That didn't come by accident.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 3, 2018 1:28:23 GMT
He was a good Conference Defender. He was a decent League 2 Defender. But for me he has been a bang average League 1 Defender so far in the 18 months or so he's played at this level. He is only 23, and already played over 200 games for the club which is brilliant, but if we were to get a bid of 500k+ for him which is what I mean by good money, then I think we should bite whichever club it was hands off No. I disagree with your comments there. Tom really came into his own and was far more influential at centre back in league 2 than he was at right back in the conference. He has learned on the job at this level and been a bit error prone at times, but has also shown some real quality in his play. He reads the game very well and is brave. I see him as a future Championship player. He will only get better, mainly because he is such a good pro and always keen to add to his game. An example is how much more comfortable he looks on the ball now to a couple of years ago. That didn't come by accident. 113 goals conceded in a season and a half at this level with Lockyer in the heart of the defence suggests otherwise. You cant fault his commitment, desire and endevour, 200 games under his belt at the age of 23 is brilliant, maybe making him captain has put more pressure on him and his performances have suffered, or maybe its just the step up in quality, but I honestly dont see what a lot of other people see in him. He's come up through the ranks, and it's good to see players do that. I just think that if he is one of the players DC eluded too in regards to having bids from clubs, then if we receive a bid of 500k+ for him, I would take it.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 3, 2018 7:30:13 GMT
Exeter want Brown for £100k (Facebook rumour)
Good business i think and would be happy to drive him there as well
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 3, 2018 7:35:26 GMT
Exeter want Brown for £100k (Facebook rumour) Good business i think and would be happy to drive him there as well Have they really got £100k to splash out on a fullback, that is championship manager/FIFA virtual reality in my opinion
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Post by madgas on Jan 3, 2018 7:51:58 GMT
Exeter want Brown for £100k (Facebook rumour) Good business i think and would be happy to drive him there as well Awful business. How much would it cost to replace? More than a 100k. And it’s another Job to do- in a short January window. Brown is a competent left back. January is for the glaringly obvious transfers, not getting “value” Let’s not ship everyone out and replace the whole squad this January.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 3, 2018 7:58:47 GMT
A nice thought though is that we have players who are actually worth something nowadays.
Even when we were falling from L1 last time, none of our players were actually worth much on the transfer market
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2018 8:18:43 GMT
Exeter want Brown for £100k (Facebook rumour) Good business i think and would be happy to drive him there as well I can't get my head around your dislike for LB, he does a decent job at this level and if somebody like Tisdale thinks he's worth £100K then that seems to support that view.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 8:19:37 GMT
Some people really are out of touch with today’s inflated market aren’t they. £500k for Lockyer is not good money. Remember, we payed £350k for Tilson years ago now and the market has inflated massively since then. He is 23 and will only improve with the massive amount of time he has. I’d be disappointed if we lost him for less than £1million.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 3, 2018 8:41:31 GMT
Exeter want Brown for £100k (Facebook rumour) Good business i think and would be happy to drive him there as well I can't get my head around your dislike for LB, he does a decent job at this level and if somebody like Tisdale thinks he's worth £100K then that seems to support that view. He is now slow, won't tackle and has lost the ability to put a good cross in When a young player like Bola can do those things and do them better, you have to wonder what has gone wrong with Browner this season ?
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 3, 2018 8:43:54 GMT
Some people really are out of touch with today’s inflated market aren’t they. £500k for Lockyer is not good money. Remember, we payed £350k for Tilson years ago now and the market has inflated massively since then. He is 23 and will only improve with the massive amount of time he has. I’d be disappointed if we lost him for less than £1million. And I`ll be disappointed if I don`t wake up next to Halle Berry tomorrow morning. I rate Lockyer, but nobody`s going to pay a million for him.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 3, 2018 8:57:08 GMT
Some people really are out of touch with today’s inflated market aren’t they. £500k for Lockyer is not good money. Remember, we payed £350k for Tilson years ago now and the market has inflated massively since then. He is 23 and will only improve with the massive amount of time he has. I’d be disappointed if we lost him for less than £1million. I've probably bored you all before, Tilson's £370,000 would be c.£750,000 today in pure inflationary terms or £8-10m based on the Premiership prices (it was around 10% of the then record fee). I don't think £500,000 would go far in replacing him (not least the unknown quantity in terms of fitting in with the team of anyone coming in). Like with Bodin, I would rather he saw out his contract.
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Post by pirate on Jan 3, 2018 8:58:30 GMT
Some people really are out of touch with today’s inflated market aren’t they. £500k for Lockyer is not good money. Remember, we payed £350k for Tilson years ago now and the market has inflated massively since then. He is 23 and will only improve with the massive amount of time he has. I’d be disappointed if we lost him for less than £1million. Everton paid about £1 million for a 17-year-old Bury centre back, Matty Foulds, that had only made 2 first team appearances.
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