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Post by nailseagashead on Jan 20, 2018 11:06:45 GMT
Listen, for me, Darrell has come under a lot of criticism recently some fair and some very unfair.
Firstly his team selections, now let's be honest he's the one that sees the players day in day out and we all know he likes to pick different players based on the opposition we are playing. This is just something we all need to realise and accept really.
Secondly, he's come out this week and given all of us fans some information. Now, look, for me, this is where the criticism is unfair he's come out and said he's trying to sign players, but they don't want to come here, whether that's down to wages, or bigger clubs after the same players. (yes believe it or not there are bigger clubs than the mighty gas out there). The point I'm trying to make is people on here saying we want communication and when Darrell does this the same people are still moaning! He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, he's come out and given everyone an update and let everyone know what's happening in the transfer market, but it's still not good enough for some of us! It's clear he's trying to attract the right type of players for Bristol Rovers, not just any old Tom, Dick or Harry! So let's get behind the boys we have got and the manager knowing that they're doing their best for the club we all love!
UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2018 11:13:47 GMT
Who is actually criticising DC it is the apparent lack of support for me by the owners which is the concern, with a top 5 average home attendance but are in get danger if finishing a bottom 4 club if DC's not allowed to bring 2 or 3 more quality players in January, as the Bola's & Telford's of this world simply aren't good enough.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2018 11:15:23 GMT
Who is actually criticising DC it is the apparent lack of support for me by the owners which is the concern, with a top 5 average home attendance but are in get danger if finishing a bottom 4 club if DC's not allowed to bring 2 or 3 more quality players in January, as the Bola's & Telford's of this world simply aren't good enough. Stevek |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 20, 2018 11:20:02 GMT
The criticism is warranted due to his inability in the summer transfer dealings which has seen us with the most unbalanced team we have had during his tenure. Perhaps he is setting out with unrealistic targets? His interviews for me are one excuse after another and are now becoming boring and almost edge on displaying a falling out with the owners. Now this may be way off the truth but certainly the sign language has not been that of a set up where all is well and certainly way off the optimism that was there last season.
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Post by nailseagashead on Jan 20, 2018 11:20:16 GMT
Who is actually criticising DC it is the apparent lack of support for me by the owners which is the concern, with a top 5 average home attendance but are in get danger if finishing a bottom 4 club if DC's not allowed to bring 2 or 3 more quality players in January, as the Bola's & Telford's of this world simply aren't good enough. There have been fans saying Darrell hasn't signed enough players, it's extremely poor, not good enough etc. Yes we're all frustrated at the lack of activity but what do people want? In seasons gone by we would be throwing money at players looking for one last pay packet, or injury prone players on big wages. DC has finally stopped this and rightly so. For years people have been saying stop spending money on so called higher division players, and that they want players who wear the shirt with pride. Listen, I'm not saying I'm not frustrated because that would be a lie, and the board really aren't helping matters ATM. We've finally got a team who want to play for the shirt, yes they may not be the most technically gifted, but they're working for each other. The team spirit is as high as I've seen it for many Years. |
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Post by nailseagashead on Jan 20, 2018 11:25:24 GMT
The criticism is warranted due to his inability in the summer transfer dealings which has seen us with the most unbalanced team we have had during his tenure. Perhaps he is setting out with unrealistic targets? His interviews for me are one excuse after another and are now becoming boring and almost edge on displaying a falling out with the owners. Now this may be way off the truth but certainly the sign language has not been that of a set up where all is well and certainly way off the optimism that was there last season. I totally respect your opinion Steve, but I have to disagree with the criticism of DC, for me he's doing a fine job with the poor finances he's clearly been given in the transfer market. Yes we all expected this season to be better, but it's not turned out that way. I also believe everything is not as it should be, but I believe this is down to the board/ Hamer saying one thing one interview then totally contradicting it in the next. How can anybody know where they stand especially DC I really feel he's pulled the short straw on this one. |
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Post by mjhgas on Jan 20, 2018 11:30:22 GMT
DC gets a free reign from me. Carry on.
The shocking managers who were in charge before him, and his record since taking over suggest that he is doing a decent job with not a lot of money.
As you were!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 20, 2018 11:44:55 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history.
DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back.
Nobody else seems to be having problems?
We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players!
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Post by nailseagashead on Jan 20, 2018 11:51:46 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history. DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back. Nobody else seems to be having problems? We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players! We failed so sign a permanent keeper for years after Steve Phillips left and then the one we did finally get was Bevan, and he wasn't great let's be honest. I remember people say Bury were going to be a force with the signing they made in the summer, and now they're struggling big time. Agreed we're weaker than we started the window, but if players don't want to play for us, then tbf DC's hands are tied. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 20, 2018 11:52:30 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history. DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back. Nobody else seems to be having problems? We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players! I am a massive , massive fan of dc , but i think you are spot on in your assessment here. However, I will remain patient and supportive until the window closes. If in the unlikely event we do not add any further players to our squad in this transfer window , I personally believe we will go down. Not being a 'doom and gloom monger ' just being realistic. Anyway , the window has not closed yet, let's get down the mem and cheer on the boys ! Utg !!!!!!! |
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Post by socrates on Jan 20, 2018 11:58:40 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history. DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back. Nobody else seems to be having problems? We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players! I am a massive , massive fan of dc , but i think you are spot on in your assessment here. However, I will remain patient and supportive until the window closes. If in the unlikely event we do not add any further players to our squad in this transfer window , I personally believe we will go down. Not being a 'doom and gloom monger ' just being realistic. Anyway , the window has not closed yet, let's get down the mem and cheer on the boys ! Utg !!!!!!! I don’t think we’ll go down with no further additions but I think we will end up in a relegation scrap. I think we’ll have enough to stay up though . |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 20, 2018 12:02:11 GMT
I didn’t realise you’d moved to Nailsea Darrell.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 20, 2018 12:03:08 GMT
I am a massive , massive fan of dc , but i think you are spot on in your assessment here. However, I will remain patient and supportive until the window closes. If in the unlikely event we do not add any further players to our squad in this transfer window , I personally believe we will go down. Not being a 'doom and gloom monger ' just being realistic. Anyway , the window has not closed yet, let's get down the mem and cheer on the boys ! Utg !!!!!!! I don’t think we’ll go down with no further additions but I think we will end up in a relegation scrap. I think we’ll have enough to stay up though . I hope so mate , supporting the gas has never been good for anyone's health 😂 |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 20, 2018 12:11:33 GMT
We talk about DC being slow to act in the transfer market, but fail to remember that the blueprint of his success has been getting really good characters in to the squad (obviously who can also play a bit), and creating a great dressing room where everyone has each other's backs. Look at the years before he took over, when we had constant rumours of disruption in the playing squad, and of players leading unsatisfactory lifestyles. That helped to create the downward spiral that we couldn't seem to get free from, but that's all gone now, down to DC. In truth, when was our last disciplinary issue? All I can remember is one bloke telling the press about his injury! When was the last squeak of player unrest? He runs a very tight, happy and committed ship, and a lot of due diligence is rightly done into new permanent signings. Just look at Mensah. We haven't seen him play yet but no-one has had a bad word said against him. Partington and Sercombe come across like excellent pros. It is a very fine balance and I don't think a scatter-gun approach where we risk upsetting the great spirit in the dressing room is the way forward. We are obviously trying to do things on a tight budget and that makes things harder, but from where I'm standing DC is continuing to do an excellent job.
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Post by nailseagashead on Jan 20, 2018 12:14:22 GMT
I didn’t realise you’d moved to Nailsea Darrell. Well I had to move outside of Bristol due to all the criticism I was getting, for me, Bristol is a wonderful city having said that it just got too much so had to move away but within driving distance. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 20, 2018 12:22:28 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history. DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back. Nobody else seems to be having problems? We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players! We failed so sign a permanent keeper for years after Steve Phillips left and then the one we did finally get was Bevan, and he wasn't great let's be honest. I remember people say Bury were going to be a force with the signing they made in the summer, and now they're struggling big time. Agreed we're weaker than we started the window, but if players don't want to play for us, then tbf DC's hands are tied.
I find it very hard to believe there aren't any players in the world who would be willing to sign for us that would improve the first XI, we are struggling this season after all.
I suspect DC has limited contacts, no help from a scouting network and relies too much on agents and inside word of mouth to 'find' players.
Its not DC's fault, he needs support in order to find players. As pirate often says, you have to catch these young gems when they are off the radar, not when 10 L1/Champ clubs are chasing them and then moan they go elsewhere.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2018 12:44:14 GMT
Who is actually criticising DC it is the apparent lack of support for me by the owners which is the concern, with a top 5 average home attendance but are in get danger if finishing a bottom 4 club if DC's not allowed to bring 2 or 3 more quality players in January, as the Bola's & Telford's of this world simply aren't good enough. Stevek The criticism is warranted due to his inability in the summer transfer dealings which has seen us with the most unbalanced team we have had during his tenure. Perhaps he is setting out with unrealistic targets? His interviews for me are one excuse after another and are now becoming boring and almost edge on displaying a falling out with the owners. Now this may be way off the truth but certainly the sign language has not been that of a set up where all is well and certainly way off the optimism that was there last season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 13:19:11 GMT
We talk about DC being slow to act in the transfer market, but fail to remember that the blueprint of his success has been getting really good characters in to the squad (obviously who can also play a bit), and creating a great dressing room where everyone has each other's backs. Look at the years before he took over, when we had constant rumours of disruption in the playing squad, and of players leading unsatisfactory lifestyles. That helped to create the downward spiral that we couldn't seem to get free from, but that's all gone now, down to DC. In truth, when was our last disciplinary issue? All I can remember is one bloke telling the press about his injury! When was the last squeak of player unrest? He runs a very tight, happy and committed ship, and a lot of due diligence is rightly done into new permanent signings. Just look at Mensah. We haven't seen him play yet but no-one has had a bad word said against him. Partington and Sercombe come across like excellent pros. It is a very fine balance and I don't think a scatter-gun approach where we risk upsetting the great spirit in the dressing room is the way forward. We are obviously trying to do things on a tight budget and that makes things harder, but from where I'm standing DC is continuing to do an excellent job. Is he slow though ? Slow would imply he is thinking about things a lot or just not acting or making up his mind. The truth is he has been talking to lots of players and has progressed talks with several. If a player then chooses to stay put or go to another club doesn't make D.C. slow. It just means Rovers are not as appealing as other offers for whatever reason. The whole doing nothing or "is slow" business is to coin a phrase a smokescreen for the real criticism. Which is basically another dig at the owners because they have not matched Bristol City.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2018 13:59:17 GMT
Most of us were predicting slow action in the transfer window, purely based on past history. DC is even slow in the summer window and failed to sign a permanent keeper a couple of seasons back. Nobody else seems to be having problems? We are weaker than we were when Bodin was here, and even then we still needed 3-4 new players! We failed so sign a permanent keeper for years after Steve Phillips left and then the one we did finally get was Bevan, and he wasn't great let's be honest. I remember people say Bury were going to be a force with the signing they made in the summer, and now they're struggling big time. Agreed we're weaker than we started the window, but if players don't want to play for us, then tbf DC's hands are tied. Not long ago posters were saying why didn't we re-sign Lumley on loan rather than Smith? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2018 14:04:45 GMT
We talk about DC being slow to act in the transfer market, but fail to remember that the blueprint of his success has been getting really good characters in to the squad (obviously who can also play a bit), and creating a great dressing room where everyone has each other's backs. Look at the years before he took over, when we had constant rumours of disruption in the playing squad, and of players leading unsatisfactory lifestyles. That helped to create the downward spiral that we couldn't seem to get free from, but that's all gone now, down to DC. In truth, when was our last disciplinary issue? All I can remember is one bloke telling the press about his injury! When was the last squeak of player unrest? He runs a very tight, happy and committed ship, and a lot of due diligence is rightly done into new permanent signings. Just look at Mensah. We haven't seen him play yet but no-one has had a bad word said against him. Partington and Sercombe come across like excellent pros. It is a very fine balance and I don't think a scatter-gun approach where we risk upsetting the great spirit in the dressing room is the way forward. We are obviously trying to do things on a tight budget and that makes things harder, but from where I'm standing DC is continuing to do an excellent job. Is he slow though ? Slow would imply he is thinking about things a lot or just not acting or making up his mind. The truth is he has been talking to lots of players and has progressed talks with several. If a player then chooses to stay put or go to another club doesn't make D.C. slow. It just means Rovers are not as appealing as other offers for whatever reason. The whole doing nothing or "is slow" business is to coin a phrase a smokescreen for the real criticism. Which is basically another dig at the owners because they have not matched Bristol City.
It's irritating, but we've no real idea what's going on behind the scenes/what money DC as compared to other Div 1 clubs. Beckworth looked a great signing for Bury in the summer but that's hardly worked at well for them. Bodin looked a poor signing for 6 months or so but turned into a £1m+ player if he signed a new contract rather than jump ship. For those posters moaning about DC who do they expect SH/Wael will replace him with who is any better should he get your, apparent, wish and leave? |
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