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Post by gasincider on Sept 20, 2014 21:36:41 GMT
Maximum Score = 11
NH. = 5
CJ. = 3
EW. = 3
BB. = 7
RK. = 5
Twat. = 4
BSS. = 9
KM. = 8
Our fans directors are keeping the faith and BB very good in light of his recent illness. The rest, well, what about the rest? Answers on a postcard.
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Post by dmacca65 on Sept 20, 2014 21:40:50 GMT
Maximum Score = 11 NH. = 5 CJ. = 3 EW. = 3 BB. = 7 RK. = 5 Twat. = 4 BSS. = 9 KM. = 8 Our fans directors are keeping the faith and BB very good in light of his recent illness. The rest, well, what about the rest? Answers on a postcard. Wish you were here  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 6:50:00 GMT
The director of performence had been to 3 games ? Wow. Out of interest any ides if EW (director of youth) has been attending youth games ? They have had a tough start.
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Post by blackthorngas on Sept 21, 2014 7:48:02 GMT
Attendance isn't everything. What about the money they put into the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 7:48:46 GMT
Would be interested to know if CJ and EW attended the same 3 games?
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Post by mjhgas on Sept 21, 2014 8:40:39 GMT
A bit of success on the pitch, and the blokes who didn't plan for relegation, and have run the club into the ground will be off the hook!
Crowds will be up and they will continue to make £££'s.
Let's hope they have a plan for harnessing the support this time around.
Never forget that Watola didn't think it necessary to plan for relegation because we were only in the bottom 2 for 70 minutes.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 21, 2014 8:54:31 GMT
EW and CJ did indeed attend the same matches.
Blackthorn gas. What monies have been invested in the club by CJ and EW? I'll tell you. It's in the accounts. CJ has a one year bond o/s of £152k, EW has a one year bond o/s of £142k. The sums are 'guaranteed' by NH. (They also have o/s non guaranteed loans of £1289 and ££8290 respectively.)Hence why NH is desperate for UWE to come off. Else he has to repay them himself.
i have watched most youth and development games in recent years and never seen EW there. Mind you, CJ is in charge of DC and his performances. The games these two have been too are FGR away, Wrexham home, and Nuneaton home. So, based on results DC will be about to be offered a 7 year contract a la Pardew.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 9:59:16 GMT
EW and CJ did indeed attend the same matches. Blackthorn gas. What monies have been invested in the club by CJ and EW? I'll tell you. It's in the accounts. CJ has a one year bond o/s of £152k, EW has a one year bond o/s of £142k. The sums are 'guaranteed' by NH. (They also have o/s non guaranteed loans of £1289 and ££8290 respectively.)Hence why NH is desperate for UWE to come off. Else he has to repay them himself. i have watched most youth and development games in recent years and never seen EW there. Mind you, CJ is in charge of DC and his performances. The games these two have been too are FGR away, Wrexham home, and Nuneaton home. So, based on results DC will be about to be offered a 7 year contract a la Pardew. Wow NH said the directors had loaned the club £10m at the q and a. Assuming RK has a similar deal to CJ and EW you can see why the likes of GD and later NH had such a dictatorial style. Thats a mad amount of money to be owed by a club without a pot to Widdle in. |
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Post by EssoBlue on Sept 21, 2014 11:34:34 GMT
A bit of success on the pitch, and the blokes who didn't plan for relegation, and have run the club into the ground will be off the hook! Crowds will be up and they will continue to make £££'s. Let's hope they have a plan for harnessing the support this time around. Never forget that Watola didn't think it necessary to plan for relegation because we were only in the bottom 2 for 70 minutes. Am I the only one who doesn't understand the constant moan about Watola not having a Relegation Plan? The plan took about 30 seconds to write post relegation: 1. Release all high earning players who are at the end of their contract. 2. Sell or give away all high earning players with long contracts - if possible. 3. Recruit new players on low salaries and short contracts. 4. Insert a relegation clause into all new contracts. 5. Plan for lower smaller crowds/gate receipts. 6. Plan for lower season ticket sales. Other than having a relegation clause inserted into every players contract whilst in L2, I don’t see what difference a relegation plan would have made. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:31:55 GMT
The issue was not knowing the financial impact of relegation which delayed our budget and ultimately the catalyst for the very difficult pre season and slow start to the season. Even without any of that telling an angry fan base
Following our second relegation in a few years you had no plan was not very wise.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 21, 2014 15:36:39 GMT
A bit of success on the pitch, and the blokes who didn't plan for relegation, and have run the club into the ground will be off the hook! Crowds will be up and they will continue to make £££'s. Let's hope they have a plan for harnessing the support this time around. Never forget that Watola didn't think it necessary to plan for relegation because we were only in the bottom 2 for 70 minutes. Am I the only one who doesn't understand the constant moan about Watola not having a Relegation Plan? The plan took about 30 seconds to write post relegation: 1. Release all high earning players who are at the end of their contract. 2. Sell or give away all high earning players with long contracts - if possible. 3. Recruit new players on low salaries and short contracts. 4. Insert a relegation clause into all new contracts. 5. Plan for lower smaller crowds/gate receipts. 6. Plan for lower season ticket sales. Other than having a relegation clause inserted into every players contract whilst in L2, I don’t see what difference a relegation plan would have made. It seemed that DC had his budget changed several times in pre season and we were still well short even when the season began. It's hardly much to ask. 1 plan if we stay up and 1 if we go down. |
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Post by blackthorngas on Sept 21, 2014 16:01:04 GMT
How would we have reacted if they told us they'd been planning for relegation. Surely we'd have all been on their case for that. I probably would have seen it as defeatist.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 21, 2014 19:56:35 GMT
I think some of you are misinterpreting a plan for relegation.
It means you cost the financial impact of relegation prior to being relegated. In our case it was £450k lost in league grants in year 1, and £760k each year from there on. Then there was lost income from attendances going down, and advertising, food sales, drinks etc, so it was the best part of a £1m in year one and so on.
Having costed this, it would then have enabled NH to realise it was far cheaper to invest perhaps £200k in wages for a decent striker and midfield creator etc to make sure we stayed up.
But of course, we were only in the relegation zone for 70 mins, so it didn't matter, did it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 20:22:04 GMT
I think some of you are misinterpreting a plan for relegation.
It means you cost the financial impact of relegation prior to being relegated. In our case it was £450k lost in league grants in year 1, and £760k each year from there on. Then there was lost income from attendances going down, and advertising, food sales, drinks etc, so it was the best part of a £1m in year one and so on.
Having costed this, it would then have enabled NH to realise it was far cheaper to invest perhaps £200k in wages for a decent striker and midfield creator etc to make sure we stayed up.
But of course, we were only in the relegation zone for 70 mins, so it didn't matter, did it?
And remember, we also lost income from the rugby. Perfect answer. A normal, sensible financial director on a decent wage should have several financial scenarios laid out and planned for. It's not difficult. There are really only 3 outcomes in any one season. Go up, go down, go nowhere. Add in cup expectations and that's it. It's nothing short of a disgrace and negligence that we went down with no plan. That the person responsible is still in charge of our finances is frankly amazing. |
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Post by 4evergas67 on Sept 21, 2014 20:35:03 GMT
Attendance isn't everything. What about the money they put into the club. They can put as much money in as they like.......But it's not good business if it's being watered up against the wall as it has been for years. Just goes to show how seriously our directors take their investment in our current team......Oh hang on their all gonna make their money out of the sell off.
Watch um jump when the cash is in the bank that's when we really will be in the sh!t unless they can kop a few bob for their shares then happy days all round.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 20:45:29 GMT
Attendance isn't everything. What about the money they put into the club. If you ran a business and I gave you 1000 quid to spend on it but I secured that money against the assets you have and told you I want it back how much have I invested? If I then didn't even bother showing up to see how you were spending my 'investment' would you think that's alright or would you just laugh at me and waste my money? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 14:18:42 GMT
Attendance isn't everything. What about the money they put into the club. If you ran a business and I gave you 1000 quid to spend on it but I secured that money against the assets you have and told you I want it back how much have I invested? If I then didn't even bother showing up to see how you were spending my 'investment' would you think that's alright or would you just laugh at me and waste my money? I think we need to remember the asset is a gamble in our scenario, if we can't sell The Mem they aint getting any money back i would have thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 14:39:35 GMT
I agree. I also have no issue with any of the directors wanting their money back at some point. That's how business works, but let's not pretend its a charitable donation. It's a loan to the club that they are increasing because it appears that its not always been invested as well as it could/should have been.
The real point I was making was that if I'd put £1000s onto Rovers I'd want to know the ins and outs of a cats ass about how my cash was being used and I would make sure I attended more than half the games.
Maybe I'm wrong and its more important that Directors are there during the week to run the place correctly ready for Saturday??
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