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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 4, 2018 12:03:55 GMT
How are we looking for next year? Presume we'll be in league 1. Can we keep hold of our prize assets? What do we do with Byron Moore? Who would you look to move on? What about Telford and Bola? Where do we need to strengthen? Writing this out, it surprised me just how strong our squad, on the whole is looking. That's kudos to DC and the work done by Hargreaves and the development squad. Are there any others in the development squad who are ready to get a chance?
Keepers: Slocombe Smith (Andre)
Defenders: Lee Brown Tony Craig Tom Broadbent Rollin Menayese Tom Lockyer (can we keep hold of him?) James Clarke Joe Partington (can also play DCM) Daniel Leadbitter
Central Midfielders: Ollie Clarke Chris Lines Liam Sercombe (can we keep hold of him?) Stuart Sinclair (Luke Russe)
Wingers: Kyle Bennett Bernard Mensah Ryan Broom Byron Moore (known to be out of contract)
Strikers: Ellis Harrison (can we keep hold of him?) Rory Gaffney Tom Nichols
For my money, we clearly need another striker. Possibly a left back. I'd be tempted to sign Bola, though Craig can fill in there. I'd also keep Byron on a 1 year deal as he's clearly much better on the right. But if we can keep hold of our best players it may be that we don't need to do much business. Discuss!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 4, 2018 12:07:05 GMT
Also, did you know that an anagram of Ryan Broom is Byron Moar? That's surely beyond coincidence
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Post by tommym9 on Mar 4, 2018 12:12:28 GMT
Looking a bit light in central midfield for me.
Defence seems sorted for next season.
I wouldn't mind another winger and stricker.
Main thing is keeping hold of what we have for me this summer.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 4, 2018 12:20:06 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either.
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Post by socrates on Mar 4, 2018 12:24:56 GMT
I expect 3-4 changes in the summer and 2-3 in the winter to keep gradually improving and taking us forward, small changes here and there without disrupting the balance and spirit of the squad. that’s what DC has always done and that’s what has always worked. Haven’t got a clue who will be staying or leaving though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:18:29 GMT
The key to next season is keeping our best players and if we do then just 3 additions for me...left back/wing back, a midfielder and striker. Similarly I can see perhaps 3 being released but not sure who DC will go for but if Moore is one of them then an addition winger/wide midfielder is added to shopping list. Would not be surprised to see Nichols loaned out which would necessitate a loan signing coming in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:20:59 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either. I think Lines is well worth another year's contract but even then I think we might see another mid-fielder added to the squad.
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Post by gas2 on Mar 4, 2018 14:26:36 GMT
Would rather Lockyer be sold not Ellis or sercombe tho
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:30:58 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either. Is your view on Lines based on what you think of his performances or the number on his birth certificate? Personally I've not seen any downturn in his performance, speed or mobility but the staff will know a lot more about that with the GPS vests the players wear in matches and training. Agree with you on Moore. He's an experienced player and has had the best part of two years to show what he can do. There's no point just making an impression in the final months of a contract. Would anyone have the confidence to rely on him next year? I imagine his wages are quite high and could be put to far better use on new signings.
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Post by wilkimania on Mar 4, 2018 14:31:32 GMT
Who do we know is out of contract this summer from our current squad?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:33:25 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either. I think Lines is well worth another year's contract but even then I think we might see another mid-fielder added to the squad. If we do get another midfielder I'd like it to be a big athletic unit that would give DC the confidence to play a conventional 4-4-2 with wingers.
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Post by thegasareback on Mar 4, 2018 15:20:47 GMT
Keepers we are ok. No issues.
Fullbacks - ok. Not exceptional. But ok.
Centre halves. Sweeney won't stay on. Locks. Craig. TB. Happy enough there.
DC has said that 442 with conventional wingers is outdated and I'm inclined to agree.
Lines is 100% worth another year or two. What do we have that's better?
Moore is frustrating as he has the raw attributes to be a very important player for us. But he just hasn't done it consistently.
We 10000% need a forward. They don't grow on trees though. This is controversial but we need players to take us to the championship and I'm afraid Gaffney isn't that man, seems a good bloke to have around the camp though, and a good back up to ellis. Ellis has proved a lot of us wrong and deserves to be our line leader. I know DC has used them as "battering rams" but that's not the future. And ellis has 13 but I still wouldn't class him as a snake type "goalscorer" if you understand the context.
I posted at the start of the year that we desperately needed a ball playing midfield dominator like otzumer and this stands. Again, they don't grow on trees but sincs, Clarke and russe are cut from the same cloth. Would love some real quality in there to make us tick. Sercs, for me, needs to be further up the pitch.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 4, 2018 15:39:53 GMT
I suspect that after the last few matches when we will have just missed out on the play offs after another good year DC will talk about bringing a lot of new players in. But in reality I will expect to see 3/4 to gradually improve the squad which is DCs tried and trusted way of doing things. They will be players who can fit into the team but who will be good characters with good attitudes so the squad remains a good unit. I wouldn’t expect any players with egos or any attitudes that will rock the boat or spoil the spirit that this group has. It’s the way DC always does it and it’s worked fine so far. I hope our best players stay and I think they probably will. But only time will tell. From that list we look fairly good in most areas although another permanent forward would look to be needed imo. UTG!
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Post by socrates on Mar 4, 2018 15:54:34 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either. I think Lines is well worth another year's contract but even then I think we might see another mid-fielder added to the squad. Lines is our best playmaker. Releasing him would be a massive mistake. He’s the brains in midfield.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Mar 4, 2018 16:14:57 GMT
Agree Linesy has class.Silly to talk of letting him go.Byron Moore and Nichols to go for me as neither puts enough in.Gosling was very skilful too but always on the periphery on things and didn't contribute enough rather like the aforementioned.Like James Clarke.Never lets us down and would keep him.Broaders,Leaders,Sincs and Ollie still to come back into the reckoning.More real quality needed up front and creative wise but with Rollin,Broom and now Russe staking a claim ,think we are not doing too badly but Sercombe has added a lot and only players of his standard should be considered in my humble opinion.4 genuinely quality players will take us to the next level.Still not convinced the Beard or Ollie can take us further but would keep them in the squad. Early days for the new recent signings but the summer will be interesting player wise.Given up on the Mem re- build and training ground as nothing ever happens other than hot air so good to see the Developement Squad supplying a few and being well run but the lack of any meaningful competition for them and lack of games has been overcome with all the outward loans.Rollin doing well for Swindon can only be good for us. NB.For anyone under 70 you won't remember my Profile pic of Alex Munro but he was a left back for us for ten years as hard as they come!!!!
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Post by tbonegas on Mar 4, 2018 16:40:45 GMT
I think Lines is well worth another year's contract but even then I think we might see another mid-fielder added to the squad. Lines is our best playmaker. Releasing him would be a massive mistake. He’s the brains in midfield. Spot on.
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Post by justin blue on Mar 4, 2018 16:49:42 GMT
Agree Linesy has class.Silly to talk of letting him go.Byron Moore and Nichols to go for me as neither puts enough in.Gosling was very skilful too but always on the periphery on things and didn't contribute enough rather like the aforementioned.Like James Clarke.Never lets us down and would keep him.Broaders,Leaders,Sincs and Ollie still to come back into the reckoning.More real quality needed up front and creative wise but with Rollin,Broom and now Russe staking a claim ,think we are not doing too badly but Sercombe has added a lot and only players of his standard should be considered in my humble opinion.4 genuinely quality players will take us to the next level.Still not convinced the Beard or Ollie can take us further but would keep them in the squad. Early days for the new recent signings but the summer will be interesting player wise.Given up on the Mem re- build and training ground as nothing ever happens other than hot air so good to see the Developement Squad supplying a few and being well run but the lack of any meaningful competition for them and lack of games has been overcome with all the outward loans.Rollin doing well for Swindon can only be good for us. NB.For anyone under 70 you won't remember my Profile pic of Alex Munro but he was a left back for us for ten years as hard as they come!!!! Hey I'm a good few years short of 70 and I remember Alex Munro he was a nasty piece of work on and off the field. Broke his leg in a tackle at AG.
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Post by wilkimania on Mar 4, 2018 16:53:59 GMT
Keepers we are ok. No issues. Fullbacks - ok. Not exceptional. But ok. Centre halves. Sweeney won't stay on. Locks. Craig. TB. Happy enough there. DC has said that 442 with conventional wingers is outdated and I'm inclined to agree. Lines is 100% worth another year or two. What do we have that's better? Moore is frustrating as he has the raw attributes to be a very important player for us. But he just hasn't done it consistently. We 10000% need a forward. They don't grow on trees though. This is controversial but we need players to take us to the championship and I'm afraid Gaffney isn't that man, seems a good bloke to have around the camp though, and a good back up to ellis. Ellis has proved a lot of us wrong and deserves to be our line leader. I know DC has used them as "battering rams" but that's not the future. And ellis has 13 but I still wouldn't class him as a snake type "goalscorer" if you understand the context. I posted at the start of the year that we desperately needed a ball playing midfield dominator like otzumer and this stands. Again, they don't grow on trees but sincs, Clarke and russe are cut from the same cloth. Would love some real quality in there to make us tick. Sercs, for me, needs to be further up the pitch. Not sure what you mean by a midfield dominator? I always thought that meant a big strong midfield who dominates the midfield by being the physical strength of the midfield which would be the opposite of 5ft 2 Otzumer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 16:58:51 GMT
Agree Linesy has class.Silly to talk of letting him go.Byron Moore and Nichols to go for me as neither puts enough in.Gosling was very skilful too but always on the periphery on things and didn't contribute enough rather like the aforementioned.Like James Clarke.Never lets us down and would keep him.Broaders,Leaders,Sincs and Ollie still to come back into the reckoning.More real quality needed up front and creative wise but with Rollin,Broom and now Russe staking a claim ,think we are not doing too badly but Sercombe has added a lot and only players of his standard should be considered in my humble opinion.4 genuinely quality players will take us to the next level.Still not convinced the Beard or Ollie can take us further but would keep them in the squad. Early days for the new recent signings but the summer will be interesting player wise.Given up on the Mem re- build and training ground as nothing ever happens other than hot air so good to see the Developement Squad supplying a few and being well run but the lack of any meaningful competition for them and lack of games has been overcome with all the outward loans.Rollin doing well for Swindon can only be good for us. NB.For anyone under 70 you won't remember my Profile pic of Alex Munro but he was a left back for us for ten years as hard as they come!!!! Hey I'm a good few years short of 70 and I remember Alex Munro he was a nasty piece of work on and off the field. Broke his leg in a tackle at AG. Same here, but he has more hair in that photo than i remember when watching him play.
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Post by whoblue on Mar 4, 2018 18:39:16 GMT
I'd let Lines go, think he's past it now, Moore obviously has to go. Sweeney won't be returning, think Clarke will go, Parts is a better option. Telford wont be returning either. Is your view on Lines based on what you think of his performances or the number on his birth certificate? Personally I've not seen any downturn in his performance, speed or mobility but the staff will know a lot more about that with the GPS vests the players wear in matches and training. Agree with you on Moore. He's an experienced player and has had the best part of two years to show what he can do. There's no point just making an impression in the final months of a contract. Would anyone have the confidence to rely on him next year? I imagine his wages are quite high and could be put to far better use on new signings. It could be that Sercs has come in to replace Lines going forward (the future, not attacking), and Lines has not needed resting as much as DC thought (or Lines for that), and as you say, there has been no noticeable dip in his performances so we have the luxury of playing them both.
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