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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 9, 2018 9:21:17 GMT
Look at the league table here as at 28th March 2014, the day he became our manager. www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/28-march-2014/ , now look at all of the teams that were our rivals that fateful season. Remarkably given that we were about to be relegated to non league only 3 clubs in that table are higher placed in the pyramid than we are now; Burton, Scunthorpe and Argyle and only one is playing at a higher level. I think that gives perspective on what a fantastic job DC has done for this club and we should remember that every time things don’t go our way or we get frustrated by a defeat or an ever changing team. If he was perfect he wouldn’t be here but he is a whole lot better manager than most if not all of his predecessors and anyone who thinks we could do better given the rag bag set up we have and are likely to continue to have is cloud cuckoo.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 9, 2018 9:36:52 GMT
Look at the league table here as at 28th March 2014, the day he became our manager. www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/28-march-2014/ , now look at all of the teams that were our rivals that fateful season. Remarkably given that we were about to be relegated to non league only 3 clubs in that table are higher placed in the pyramid than we are now; Burton, Scunthorpe and Argyle and only one is playing at a higher level. I think that gives perspective on what a fantastic job DC has done for this club and we should remember that every time things don’t go our way or we get frustrated by a defeat or an ever changing team. If he was perfect he wouldn’t be here but he is a whole lot better manager than most if not all of his predecessors and anyone who thinks we could do better given the rag bag set up we have and are likely to continue to have is cloud cuckoo. The man is and will always be a gas legend We need to extend his contract again In Wael we all Trust
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Post by Squiffy on Mar 9, 2018 10:22:18 GMT
Funnily enough I was just looking at the League 2 and National League tables in Metro and was reminded how fortunate we have been when you see that Barnet are bottom of the pile, Coventry are not at the top, it’s touch and go whether Tranmere are likely to reappear and Torquay are disappearing into the sunset. There’s no god given right to be in any particular league. Apart from the first few weeks of DC’s reign we have only really been looking up and he’s even managed to turn around the couple of runs of poor form which get other lesser managers the sack (except Tisdale).
I also think he appreciates the scope of his position in that he has a fair amount of influence over the development of the back room staff and youth set up, so he is effectively moulding the club to meet his requirements for future success. You don’t get that opportunity at every club so as long as progress is being made, and there is the potential for increased funding when necessary, I think he will stick around.
Despite the interest from Leeds, having not played at the higher levels other clubs will probably have reservations about whether he could cut it in the Championship, or above, so his most realistic route to the top is to get us to the next tier. Fingers crossed! 🤞
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2018 10:34:20 GMT
We are very fortunate to have DC and also bounce right back up.
Daggers now suddenly in real financial trouble with their investor pulling out completely.
I'm 26, let's have a look at the amount of teams who used to be playing us week in week out when I was in my teens; Torquay - Bottom of Conference Stockport - Conference North Leyton Orient - Conference Mid Table Hartlepool - Conference Lower Midtable - Could go out of business any day now York - Conference North Darlington - Conference North (do they still play at that stadium?) Daggers - Conference Midtable Tranmere - Conference Play Offs Boston United - Conference North Kidderminster - Conference North
That's off the top of my head, don't forget we had Hereford for a while who went completely bust I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 10:42:45 GMT
Rushden and Diamonds were not forever.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 9, 2018 11:23:41 GMT
Rushden and Diamonds were not forever. Shirley not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 11:31:44 GMT
Funnily enough I was just looking at the League 2 and National League tables in Metro and was reminded how fortunate we have been when you see that Barnet are bottom of the pile, Coventry are not at the top, it’s touch and go whether Tranmere are likely to reappear and Torquay are disappearing into the sunset. There’s no god given right to be in any particular league. Apart from the first few weeks of DC’s reign we have only really been looking up and he’s even managed to turn around the couple of runs of poor form which get other lesser managers the sack (except Tisdale). I also think he appreciates the scope of his position in that he has a fair amount of influence over the development of the back room staff and youth set up, so he is effectively moulding the club to meet his requirements for future success. You don’t get that opportunity at every club so as long as progress is being made, and there is the potential for increased funding when necessary, I think he will stick around. Despite the interest from Leeds, having not played at the higher levels other clubs will probably have reservations about whether he could cut it in the Championship, or above, so his most realistic route to the top is to get us to the next tier. Fingers crossed! 🤞 I dont think clubs give a stuff about what level a manager has played at,they just look at their manager record.
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Post by gaelgas on Mar 9, 2018 11:39:20 GMT
Rushden and Diamonds were not forever. Nor indeed Nene Park, although AFC Rushden and Diamonds (I kid you not) are on the come back, division below Hereford.
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Post by wilkimania on Mar 9, 2018 12:16:00 GMT
Shows how tight league 2 is season to season that 5/12 teams that were in the bottom half when Clarke took over are now in League 1 and up to 4 more of them are fighting for at least playoff places in League 2 this season. Yet York who are 7th in that table and now in the National League North.
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Post by rusho'gas on Mar 9, 2018 12:28:32 GMT
Worse manager in our history. I refuse to go until he's gone......................well, until Saturday at 1500 when I may well change my view. Clarke out / Wael out / pies out....................
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Post by baggins on Mar 9, 2018 12:45:27 GMT
Worse manager in our history. I refuse to go until he's gone......................well, until Saturday at 1500 when I may well change my view. Clarke out / Wael out / pies out.................... Agreed. What has he ever done for us?
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2018 13:11:49 GMT
Funnily enough I was just looking at the League 2 and National League tables in Metro and was reminded how fortunate we have been when you see that Barnet are bottom of the pile, Coventry are not at the top, it’s touch and go whether Tranmere are likely to reappear and Torquay are disappearing into the sunset. There’s no god given right to be in any particular league. Apart from the first few weeks of DC’s reign we have only really been looking up and he’s even managed to turn around the couple of runs of poor form which get other lesser managers the sack (except Tisdale). I also think he appreciates the scope of his position in that he has a fair amount of influence over the development of the back room staff and youth set up, so he is effectively moulding the club to meet his requirements for future success. You don’t get that opportunity at every club so as long as progress is being made, and there is the potential for increased funding when necessary, I think he will stick around. Despite the interest from Leeds, having not played at the higher levels other clubs will probably have reservations about whether he could cut it in the Championship, or above, so his most realistic route to the top is to get us to the next tier. Fingers crossed! 🤞 I dont think clubs give a stuff about what level a manager has played at,they just look at their manager record. When they're a new manager - that's all the care about. When did you ever see a lower league manager get his first job in the Prem? Only the ex-Prem players can get a prem job first time of asking
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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 9, 2018 13:18:09 GMT
Look at the league table here as at 28th March 2014, the day he became our manager. www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/28-march-2014/ , now look at all of the teams that were our rivals that fateful season. Remarkably given that we were about to be relegated to non league only 3 clubs in that table are higher placed in the pyramid than we are now; Burton, Scunthorpe and Argyle and only one is playing at a higher level. I think that gives perspective on what a fantastic job DC has done for this club and we should remember that every time things don’t go our way or we get frustrated by a defeat or an ever changing team. If he was perfect he wouldn’t be here but he is a whole lot better manager than most if not all of his predecessors and anyone who thinks we could do better given the rag bag set up we have and are likely to continue to have is cloud cuckoo. Wow that really is an eye opener i bet many clubs there would swap places with us in a heartbeat - well done DC
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Post by baggins on Mar 9, 2018 13:54:02 GMT
Look at the league table here as at 28th March 2014, the day he became our manager. www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/28-march-2014/ , now look at all of the teams that were our rivals that fateful season. Remarkably given that we were about to be relegated to non league only 3 clubs in that table are higher placed in the pyramid than we are now; Burton, Scunthorpe and Argyle and only one is playing at a higher level. I think that gives perspective on what a fantastic job DC has done for this club and we should remember that every time things don’t go our way or we get frustrated by a defeat or an ever changing team. If he was perfect he wouldn’t be here but he is a whole lot better manager than most if not all of his predecessors and anyone who thinks we could do better given the rag bag set up we have and are likely to continue to have is cloud cuckoo. Wow that really is an eye opener i bet many clubs there would swap places with us in a heartbeat - well done DC And yet many question his line up, his changes, his purchases, his loans, his switches, but here we are, 4 years since being in the conference and now 4 points off playoffs to the Championship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 15:28:14 GMT
I dont think clubs give a stuff about what level a manager has played at,they just look at their manager record. When they're a new manager - that's all the care about. When did you ever see a lower league manager get his first job in the Prem? Only the ex-Prem players can get a prem job first time of asking Whats that got to do with dc though? Hes been a manager for years. I havnt even looked but which premier league teams have an ex-prem player as manager in his first job?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 9, 2018 15:36:32 GMT
Wow. I thought we were a little more safe than that! But looking back it was very precarious even when D.C. took over.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 9, 2018 15:44:57 GMT
Wow. I thought we were a little more safe than that! But looking back it was very precarious even when D.C. took over. And York City made the playoffs!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2018 15:58:09 GMT
When they're a new manager - that's all the care about. When did you ever see a lower league manager get his first job in the Prem? Only the ex-Prem players can get a prem job first time of asking Whats that got to do with dc though? Hes been a manager for years. I havnt even looked but which premier league teams have an ex-prem player as manager in his first job? I'm personally not talking about DC, I was commenting more on the point about teams not caring about what level someone played at. For example, the fact that Giggs was even in with a shout at the Leicester job is a joke. Surely you'd rather have DC over Giggs? But Giggs will always be in the frame of a job in the Prem. I think Roy Keane went straight into the Prem with Sunderland? Or was it Championship? Gary Neville for Valencia (pretty much equivalent to the prem) Phil Neville England Womens team Pep straight to Barcelona Zinedine Zidane to Madrid Kenny Dalglish to Liverpool I'm sure there were others in the past too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 16:56:59 GMT
Whats that got to do with dc though? Hes been a manager for years. I havnt even looked but which premier league teams have an ex-prem player as manager in his first job? I'm personally not talking about DC, I was commenting more on the point about teams not caring about what level someone played at. For example, the fact that Giggs was even in with a shout at the Leicester job is a joke. Surely you'd rather have DC over Giggs? But Giggs will always be in the frame of a job in the Prem. I think Roy Keane went straight into the Prem with Sunderland? Or was it Championship? Gary Neville for Valencia (pretty much equivalent to the prem) Phil Neville England Womens team Pep straight to Barcelona Zinedine Zidane to Madrid Kenny Dalglish to Liverpool I'm sure there were others in the past too Pep managed barcelona c and then b before the 1st team but yes if your a big name player you might get a decent 1st job,i agree with that.
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Post by legas on Mar 9, 2018 18:07:26 GMT
Rushden and Diamonds were not forever. Nor indeed Nene Park, although AFC Rushden and Diamonds (I kid you not) are on the come back, division below Hereford. I remember going to Boston United. Where are they now? National league North? One of the few times I left 10 mins early at 2-0 down. Got to the pub near the station and it was 2-2! Real dump of a ground too. I drive past it sometimes as do some work over there on occasions. A reminder of how bad things can get and how far we could have fallen.
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