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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2018 15:50:34 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. There will be plenty of good strikers across Europe out of contract at the end of the season who could score goals for us. You don't necessarily have to spend big money on fees to get the right player. I could name at least four or five decent ones straight away who's contracts run out this summer.
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Post by socrates on Mar 25, 2018 15:57:11 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. There will be plenty of good strikers across Europe out of contract at the end of the season who could score goals for us. You don't necessarily have to spend big money on fees to get the right player. I could name at least four or five decent ones straight away who's contracts run out this summer. And Bodin Taylor etc didn’t cost us a penny. Saying we need to spend £500,000 to get the right striker makes it sound like a computer game. In the real world It’s just a number and doesn’t mean anything.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 25, 2018 16:09:39 GMT
There will be plenty of good strikers across Europe out of contract at the end of the season who could score goals for us. You don't necessarily have to spend big money on fees to get the right player. I could name at least four or five decent ones straight away who's contracts run out this summer. And Bodin Taylor etc didn’t cost us a penny. Saying we need to spend £500,000 to get the right striker makes it sound like a computer game. In the real world It’s just a number and doesn’t mean anything. Agreed. If £150K gets us Liam Sercombe and twice that gets you Tom Nichols, then what will £600K get you? Derek Riordan?
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Post by socrates on Mar 25, 2018 16:44:03 GMT
And Bodin Taylor etc didn’t cost us a penny. Saying we need to spend £500,000 to get the right striker makes it sound like a computer game. In the real world It’s just a number and doesn’t mean anything. Agreed. If £150K gets us Liam Sercombe and twice that gets you Tom Nichols, then what will £600K get you? Derek Riordan? Lol Christ I never want us to buy a striker again !!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 25, 2018 16:47:44 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. I don't think we were short up front at the beginning. We had Bodin then and we didn't realise Nichols was going to score so few. Not sure we can say we need more up front when Telford hasn't been given a chance. We are the 6th top scorers in the league.
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Post by socrates on Mar 25, 2018 17:12:28 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. I don't think we were short up front at the beginning. We had Bodin then and we didn't realise Nichols was going to score so few. Not sure we can say we need more up front when Telford hasn't been given a chance. We are the 6th top scorers in the league. Agreed, defence has been our problem all season. The only time when we’ve looked really solid was just before Tom Broadbent was dropped and even then clean sheets were few and far between.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 25, 2018 18:30:04 GMT
Eisa recently signed a contract extension at Cheltenham until 2020. Cardiff have been linked. Gary Johnson has said: "Some League One clubs who are tracking him won’t be able to afford him, no chance. It could be either a big League One club or the one in the Championship. We won’t sell unless it’s big money." There are some really good strikers abroad that would score goals and suit playing over here like Marcel Platzek, Patrick Schmidt, Sergio Buenacasa, Streli Mamba, Dani Aquino and others. Yeah, well, DC said he wouldn't sell MT for less than 10 million. We all know how that ended don't we. Eisa may well have signed a contract extension, but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a modest release clause built in. its how these agents seem to operate.
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Post by bluestone on Mar 25, 2018 18:57:29 GMT
I feel a bit for Gaffers really. He had a really good preseason and start to the campaign but was unable to nail down a place in the starting 11, mainly I believe this was due to the fact that we had paid a lot of money for Nico in the window and DC wanted to give him the opportunity to shine. If Gaffers had been allowed to build on what was really good form at the time he might have continued the scoring run he was on and helped us through the dodgy period we had before Christmas. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I suppose but I don't think Gaffers had a fair crack and DC even admitted this himself in one of his interviews. I still think Rory is a decent player and should continue to play for us next season. Surely if Gaffers was good enough he'd have "nailed down a place"? Not really sure what's happened to his game as he seems to be getting worse rather than improving, although so his Nichols, but Telford who's found form hardly gets any game time. What's DC got to lose starting him alongside Ellis v bottom of the table Bury? I think Rory was unfortunate to miss out to Nichols who was given the nod to start ahead of him during the first half of the season. Nichols has scored 1 goal in 1475 mins. That's a very poor return compared to Rory who has scored 7 goals in 1906 mins (272 mins per goal). As a comparison Ellis has 14 goals in 3051 mins (218 mins per goal), so although Rory has not been as good as Ellis, who is our top scorer, he has been significantly better than Nichols who amazingly kept finding his way into the starting 11 ahead of Rory. I'm not sure you can say Telford has really found form as such, he's played well for the development squad I'll grant you and looks very lively when he's come on as a sub but he's not exactly been banging in the goals for the first team and knocking down the managers door either. That said I do agree with you that he deserves to be given more of an opportunity, I would also like to see what an Ellis and Telford partnership would produce.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 25, 2018 20:22:32 GMT
As the season has gone on, I have to say that Gaffers after having a good start doesn't look like he's got that quality to bang in 15 goals for us. But hope he stays as back-up ! Now with Billy Bob gone, we need more goals from other players. I've got confidence that Ellis can get us around 15/20 next season but I think we need to sign someone to take the burden off Ellis. Just imagine if he was out injured for a couple of months ? Gaffers, Nichols, any other in the club wouldn't be able to step up to the plate. So who could we realistically go for ? Looking at L2 top scorers there are 2 players who play locally to us who've had great seasons considering they have been in struggling sides - Moheammed Eisa at Cheltenham and Christian Doidge at FGR. I hope these players, if good enough, would be in our price bracket. Anyone seen them play ? good enough for L1 and Rovers ? Or is there anyone in our league of a good age who we could go in for ? Yes, good shout but I read somewhere that Johnson said something about no one in League 1 would be able to afford him and he was going to the Championship or PL. And perhaps I’m wrong but I don’t think Johnson would sell us anything let alone one of his crown jewels. Sad but true I think. He could come to Bristol but I fear it wouldn’t be us. Doidge might be more realistic but I wonder if Dale Vince feels any more charitable to us. Of the opposing players I’ve seen this season Andy Cannon of Rochdale looked as good as any and ran his heart out. UTG!
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Post by markczgas on Mar 25, 2018 21:06:53 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. I don't think we were short up front at the beginning. We had Bodin then and we didn't realise Nichols was going to score so few. Not sure we can say we need more up front when Telford hasn't been given a chance. We are the 6th top scorers in the league. But we don't have Bodin any more. Telford is unlikely to be the answer otherwise DC would've played him more. We need someone to get Bodin's goals next season just to maintain our goal tally.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 25, 2018 21:12:33 GMT
Surely if Gaffers was good enough he'd have "nailed down a place"? Not really sure what's happened to his game as he seems to be getting worse rather than improving, although so his Nichols, but Telford who's found form hardly gets any game time. What's DC got to lose starting him alongside Ellis v bottom of the table Bury? I think Rory was unfortunate to miss out to Nichols who was given the nod to start ahead of him during the first half of the season. Nichols has scored 1 goal in 1475 mins. That's a very poor return compared to Rory who has scored 7 goals in 1906 mins (272 mins per goal). As a comparison Ellis has 14 goals in 3051 mins (218 mins per goal), so although Rory has not been as good as Ellis, who is our top scorer, he has been significantly better than Nichols who amazingly kept finding his way into the starting 11 ahead of Rory. I'm not sure you can say Telford has really found form as such, he's played well for the development squad I'll grant you and looks very lively when he's come on as a sub but he's not exactly been banging in the goals for the first team and knocking down the managers door either. That said I do agree with you that he deserves to be given more of an opportunity, I would also like to see what an Ellis and Telford partnership would produce. I agree. The best combination this season has been Rory and Ellis - you always believed we'd get at least a goal in each game and cause plenty of problems to opposition backline in home games. But I think this partnership was abandoned when we couldn't buy an away point. Rory can still do a good job for the team, just not sure he's good enough in a starting eleven regularly if we are going to play with 2 genuine forwards.
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Post by gasforeverman on Mar 25, 2018 21:12:38 GMT
Ashame matty T isnt interested in actually playing football. With him in our team the top 6 wld be a real possibility
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Post by aghast on Mar 25, 2018 21:57:05 GMT
Pirate, you make me laugh with these foreign players - have we got a tradition of signing them or something ?? Are there any foreign players top of the scoring charts in L1 or L2 ? There's only 1in the top 6 in The Championship. Average L2 strikers are having their prices hiked up after 1 decent season, even decent conference players will cost big. Makes sense to look elsewhere around the globe What you say, and the numerous continental gems Pirate has highlighted make sense, on the face of it. So why does DC only sign British players? In fact, if you look at the squads of L1 and L2 clubs, they generally stick to British, in fact English players. Totally different to the Prem and Championship. Why so? Perhaps they haven't got the funds to send their coaches on a spying mission to Lithuania and Albania.
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Mar 25, 2018 21:59:23 GMT
One player out of contract in the summer and probably leaving is Lyle Taylor from Wimbledon I think him and Ellis would be class and the pace is just what we need proven goalscorer aswell, but championship teams may come crawling
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Post by pirate on Mar 25, 2018 22:09:20 GMT
Average L2 strikers are having their prices hiked up after 1 decent season, even decent conference players will cost big. Makes sense to look elsewhere around the globe What you say, and the numerous continental gems Pirate has highlighted make sense, on the face of it. So why does DC only sign British players? In fact, if you look at the squads of L1 and L2 clubs, they generally stick to British, in fact English players. Totally different to the Prem and Championship. Why so? Perhaps they haven't got the funds to send their coaches on a spying mission to Lithuania and Albania. I think you are probably right, but in the modern age it is far easier to scout foreign players with the internet and applications such as scout7 and Wyscout etc. Of course nothing beats seeing a player in person, but you can get a good idea of what a player is all about and then act accordingly and dispatch someone to watch them in person if they have impressed sufficiently from video analysis.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 26, 2018 7:11:51 GMT
Said at the beginning of the season we didn’t have enough up front and needed to sign a decent centre forward. That’s not changed. Hopefully we go out and spend the cash needed which in my opinion is about 500k to get the right player. There will be plenty of good strikers across Europe out of contract at the end of the season who could score goals for us. You don't necessarily have to spend big money on fees to get the right player. I could name at least four or five decent ones straight away who's contracts run out this summer. Ok. Name these 5 strikers and we can monitor them over the next two seasons. It’ll be interesting.
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Post by pirate on Mar 26, 2018 8:05:31 GMT
There will be plenty of good strikers across Europe out of contract at the end of the season who could score goals for us. You don't necessarily have to spend big money on fees to get the right player. I could name at least four or five decent ones straight away who's contracts run out this summer. Ok. Name these 5 strikers and we can monitor them over the next two seasons. It’ll be interesting. Sergio Buenacasa, Nuha Marong, Patrick Schmidt, Streli Mamba and Petar Sliskovic are ones out of contract that I reckon would score goals for us if they were interested in a move. Mart Lieder, Adriano Grimaldi, Alexy Bosetti, Gianni Bruno are some other decent ones out of contract.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 26, 2018 8:16:34 GMT
Ok. Name these 5 strikers and we can monitor them over the next two seasons. It’ll be interesting. Sergio Buenacasa, Nuha Marong, Patrick Schmidt, Streli Mamba and Petar Sliskovic are ones out of contract that I reckon would score goals for us if they were interested in a move. Mart Lieder, Adriano Grimaldi, Alexy Bosetti, Gianni Bruno are some other decent ones out of contract. Bit more info please.... what clubs are they presently at and ages ?
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Post by pirate on Mar 26, 2018 8:31:05 GMT
Sergio Buenacasa, Nuha Marong, Patrick Schmidt, Streli Mamba and Petar Sliskovic are ones out of contract that I reckon would score goals for us if they were interested in a move. Mart Lieder, Adriano Grimaldi, Alexy Bosetti, Gianni Bruno are some other decent ones out of contract. Bit more info please.... what clubs are they presently at and ages ? Buenacasa is 21 and at Barakaldo CF, Marong is 24 and at Atlético Saguntino, Schmidt is 24 and at Saarbrücken, Mamba is 23 and at Energie Cottbus, Lieder is 27 and at FC Eindhoven, Grimaldi is 26 and at Preußen Münster, Bosetti is 24 and at Stade Laval and Bruno is 26 and at Cercle Brugge.
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Post by socrates on Mar 26, 2018 9:10:32 GMT
Bit more info please.... what clubs are they presently at and ages ? Buenacasa is 21 and at Barakaldo CF, Marong is 24 and at Atlético Saguntino, Schmidt is 24 and at Saarbrücken, Mamba is 23 and at Energie Cottbus, Lieder is 27 and at FC Eindhoven, Grimaldi is 26 and at Preußen Münster, Bosetti is 24 and at Stade Laval and Bruno is 26 and at Cercle Brugge. DC seriously needs to have a word with you.
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