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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 11, 2018 18:49:41 GMT
The money spent on the stands and bars is not from DCs budget and does not effect it in any way. I agree. But why don't the owners GIVE DC £500k instead of blowing it on nice to haves that we don't really need? That also doesn't affect the FFP. Do you have any evidence that they haven't given DC money to spend as well? He got his top 2 targets in January and wasted circa £300k on Nichols in the summer so he clearly has been given money.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 11, 2018 18:52:53 GMT
The money spent on the stands and bars is not from DCs budget and does not effect it in any way. I agree. But why don't the owners GIVE DC £500k instead of blowing it on nice to haves that we don't really need? That also doesn't affect the FFP. So who's going to buy out the ALQ's the same guy who's been talking about a takeover approach for the last couple of seasons but shows no signs of either making a firm offer for Rovers, or any the other clubs he talks about taking over? Whilst the ALQ's aren't all we'd hoped they would thry are doing a damn sight more than the previous owner.
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Post by Severncider on Jun 11, 2018 20:31:11 GMT
With respect, the OP of this thread hasn't scaremongered at all. He has just said he is certain that UWE will be built! Surely that's as optimistic as it gets!! But the OP's subsequent posts implies they don't consider that it will ever be built whilst the ALQ's are the owners! I have never said that, but clearly the current owners have said UWE is dead. I disagree.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 11, 2018 20:42:01 GMT
Sums up your attitude perfectly. Even a hypothetical unlikely promotion you’re writing off as a fluke. You would never give credit to the Al Qadis. We could have Messi and a stadium twice as big as UWE and you’d find something. Sloppy, and not constructive. There are many very good posts that critique the regime but the above is a hilarious. We haven’t been in the second tier of the football for 25 years, during that time we’ve barely threatened, and you’re already undermining a success that is so unlikely. Talk about bias. Covering your tracks. You talk as if you want failure. Exactly. It's like being in a school playground with these so called "in the know insiders". "I know something you don't know..." No, you don't. No-one is insided or has any more knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes of our football club than we all do from what is publicly available. Please let's stop now before we move on to "my dad's bigger than your dad". Too sensible 1970, but they won’t listen! UTG!
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jun 11, 2018 21:40:46 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/city-centre-bristol-arena-cost-1665247.amp?__twitter_impression=trueMarvin Rees Bristol Arena value for money assessment done and looks like Filton Airfield is gonna be the choice. Come on Wael get talking to Marvin and let's get a joint venture on the go! Plenty of space for an arena and stadium, lots of space for commercial properties and food outlets. Good travel links and would be improved, tapping into south glos population and this is with the north of the city still close by.
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Post by LJG on Jun 11, 2018 21:49:46 GMT
a combination of both.Money was allocated to cover certain periods of expenditure, but then money gets diverted onto projects that are not covered by the funds allocated. I.e. Invoices from a certain member of the board. Not to mention an office in London, with a car on standby. We really need that. But obviously there is no way our income can cover our expenditure on an annual basis. So why keep spending recklessly, such as bar renovations, shop renovations, the London office as mentioned previously, extra medical staff, three goalkeeping coaches, extra media staff, Tom Gorringe who is meant to be here raising monies for the club, but spending it like a kid in a sweet shop, the guy from Plymouth who is not needed. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to make your argument less compelling or less coherent but you've managed it. Ok lets keep it simple and see if we can get to the bottom of this. You've been arguing until you were blue in the face with me that you've never said the family don't have the funds to run the club. So since you acknowledge that they do (because I'm a liar for saying that you said they don't remember) what's your problem with the spending (keeping in mind why I'm a liar ... y'know because you've never said they haven't got the funds to meet it)?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 11, 2018 22:12:44 GMT
But the OP's subsequent posts implies they don't consider that it will ever be built whilst the ALQ's are the owners! I have never said that, but clearly the current owners have said UWE is dead. I disagree. I don't really understand what game you and Gasincider, are playing as on the one hand you imply Wael is struggling to finance the day to day running of the club but then on the other aren't prepared to say the ALQ's haven't got the finances to build the UWE, you surely can't have it both ways?
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Post by Severncider on Jun 12, 2018 2:02:09 GMT
I have never said that, but clearly the current owners have said UWE is dead. I disagree. I don't really understand what game you and Gasincider, are playing as on the one hand you imply Wael is struggling to finance the day to day running of the club but then on the other aren't prepared to say the ALQ's haven't got the finances to build the UWE, you surely can't have it both ways? FAKE NEWS, Show me where I have said Wael is struggling to pay the day to day running of the club or does not have the finances to build UWE.
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 12, 2018 5:29:27 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/city-centre-bristol-arena-cost-1665247.amp?__twitter_impression=trueMarvin Rees Bristol Arena value for money assessment done and looks like Filton Airfield is gonna be the choice. Come on Wael get talking to Marvin and let's get a joint venture on the go! Plenty of space for an arena and stadium, lots of space for commercial properties and food outlets. Good travel links and would be improved, tapping into south glos population and this is with the north of the city still close by. We could do a joint venture with a retractable roof, Chinese investment and Hani s found our Yorkshire junior saver account to add to that😂 It makes total sense or the ground bang next to the arena so Wael can have his hotels and restaurants there. All these new Gas ⛽️ employees are obviously working on some venture and I would suggest it’s not the Bespoke Santa’s grotto 🎅
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 12, 2018 5:33:54 GMT
There could be any number of reasons why there was that little in the bank though What expenses were paid, were any incomings delayed etc People tell me they have sent money to the company bank account all the time, but be buggered if i ever see it hit my bank rec Peter Gasheads were asking where is the proof that we have ever been hard up recently and needed a cash injection. If this is not one, I do not know how to convince some supporters. I wonder how next season's ticket sales have gone and have we already spent that income? Forgot this?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 12, 2018 6:07:45 GMT
a combination of both.Money was allocated to cover certain periods of expenditure, but then money gets diverted onto projects that are not covered by the funds allocated. I.e. Invoices from a certain member of the board. Not to mention an office in London, with a car on standby. We really need that. But obviously there is no way our income can cover our expenditure on an annual basis. So why keep spending recklessly, such as bar renovations, shop renovations, the London office as mentioned previously, extra medical staff, three goalkeeping coaches, extra media staff, Tom Gorringe who is meant to be here raising monies for the club, but spending it like a kid in a sweet shop, the guy from Plymouth who is not needed. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to make your argument less compelling or less coherent but you've managed it. Ok lets keep it simple and see if we can get to the bottom of this. You've been arguing until you were blue in the face with me that you've never said the family don't have the funds to run the club. So since you acknowledge that they do (because I'm a liar for saying that you said they don't remember) what's your problem with the spending (keeping in mind why I'm a liar ... y'know because you've never said they haven't got the funds to meet it)? How very Rodomontade of you LJG
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 12, 2018 6:14:06 GMT
Peter Gasheads were asking where is the proof that we have ever been hard up recently and needed a cash injection. If this is not one, I do not know how to convince some supporters. I wonder how next season's ticket sales have gone and have we already spent that income? Forgot this? Precisely, I don't really get their game as whenever challenged they deny they are anti Wael/the ALQ's etc, are they really just attention seekers who like to see their threads as the most popular on Gaschat, or do they have more sinister intentions. If so, I assume it's somebody in the background really pulling the strings, rather than just two fans acting alone to try and destroy the good work the owners are doing.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 12, 2018 6:20:31 GMT
Precisely, I don't really get their game as whenever challenged they deny they are anti Wael/the ALQ's etc, are they really just attention seekers who like to see their threads as the most popular on Gaschat, or do they have more sinister intentions. If so, I assume it's somebody in the background really pulling the strings, rather than just two fans acting alone to try and destroy the good work the owners are doing. ahhhhh the return of the "Hidden Agenda" something i've talked about extensively in the other place I Blame Trump myself.... oh and don't forget the Alien influence as well......
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 12, 2018 6:57:09 GMT
Wow. I didn't think it was possible to make your argument less compelling or less coherent but you've managed it. Ok lets keep it simple and see if we can get to the bottom of this. You've been arguing until you were blue in the face with me that you've never said the family don't have the funds to run the club. So since you acknowledge that they do (because I'm a liar for saying that you said they don't remember) what's your problem with the spending (keeping in mind why I'm a liar ... y'know because you've never said they haven't got the funds to meet it)? How very Rodomontade of you LJG You are Sir Anthony Parsons and I claim my free Windows 10 downgrade.😎
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 12, 2018 6:59:38 GMT
Precisely, I don't really get their game as whenever challenged they deny they are anti Wael/the ALQ's etc, are they really just attention seekers who like to see their threads as the most popular on Gaschat, or do they have more sinister intentions. If so, I assume it's somebody in the background really pulling the strings, rather than just two fans acting alone to try and destroy the good work the owners are doing. ahhhhh the return of the "Hidden Agenda" something i've talked about extensively in the other place I Blame Trump myself.... oh and don't forget the Alien influence as well...... Not sure about hidden agenda, but there is definitely a default setting. I have noticed one or two showing a bit of revisionism though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 12, 2018 7:31:29 GMT
Precisely, I don't really get their game as whenever challenged they deny they are anti Wael/the ALQ's etc, are they really just attention seekers who like to see their threads as the most popular on Gaschat, or do they have more sinister intentions. If so, I assume it's somebody in the background really pulling the strings, rather than just two fans acting alone to try and destroy the good work the owners are doing. ahhhhh the return of the "Hidden Agenda" something i've talked about extensively in the other place I Blame Trump myself.... oh and don't forget the Alien influence as well...... I think "in the other place" it use to be just posters moaning about the previous owners, here it seems more sinister with a constant drip feed of anti Wael/the ALQ's postings but certain posters.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 12, 2018 7:47:13 GMT
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/city-centre-bristol-arena-cost-1665247.amp?__twitter_impression=trueMarvin Rees Bristol Arena value for money assessment done and looks like Filton Airfield is gonna be the choice. Come on Wael get talking to Marvin and let's get a joint venture on the go! Plenty of space for an arena and stadium, lots of space for commercial properties and food outlets. Good travel links and would be improved, tapping into south glos population and this is with the north of the city still close by. We could do a joint venture with a retractable roof, Chinese investment and Hani s found our Yorkshire junior saver account to add to that😂 It makes total sense or the ground bang next to the arena so Wael can have his hotels and restaurants there. All these new Gas ⛽️ employees are obviously working on some venture and I would suggest it’s not the Bespoke Santa’s grotto 🎅 Just watched the local breakfast news, apparently KPMG suggest that a hotel and conference centre (not sure if I misheard that though) would be more beneficial to Arena Island. I also understand from press articles that YTL, the Malaysian company which own Filton airfield, are offering to build it for 'free' (apart from the £100m infrastructure upgrades needed, which a local MP is trying to organise) but that they would get most of the operating profit. So, arena moves to Filton, Wael gets his hotel and conferencing centre (assuming that is a genuine thing and not an Internet rumour😳) which in turn helps towards the building of a revised UWE. Elementary, my dear Machiavelli. Final decision of the Arena is due in July.
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Post by Severncider on Jun 12, 2018 8:05:09 GMT
Precisely, I don't really get their game as whenever challenged they deny they are anti Wael/the ALQ's etc, are they really just attention seekers who like to see their threads as the most popular on Gaschat, or do they have more sinister intentions. If so, I assume it's somebody in the background really pulling the strings, rather than just two fans acting alone to try and destroy the good work the owners are doing. Wrong Of course the current owners have means of injecting capital form outside sources I have NEVER said that they could not. Try again to infer something that I have never said.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 8:37:31 GMT
Look, let's be honest here. Nobody has a 'hidden agenda' or anything sinister.
It's just different peoples views of what is happening at Rovers. Yes, there is speculation and guesswork involved, and this is because of the lack of communication from the club. Some people are happy with the improvements at the Mem. Others view it as just prolonging the demise of the club. Yes, it is good to see improvements being made at the Mem, nobody denies that, but for some (me included) it doesn't improve our views of the long-term viability and progress of the club. Previous owners (GD and NH) are constantly criticized on here from some for their lack of investment in the Mem, but this was because both men believed there was no long-term future for the club at the Mem. They were both desperate to find another home, and in fairness, NH came within an hairsbreath of pulling it off. We've now owned a field in South Glos for sixteen months, and we've still to see any planning application go in to the Council. Is it any wonder why some are questioning the direction the club are going?
It's like we (the fans) are on the deck of an old sailing ship. We don't know the destination, we don't know what direction we are going, we don't know how long it will take, we don't know whose hand controls the Tiller, and the Captain refuses to tell us anything......we're just on the deck, never knowing if the ship will lurch to Port or Starboard, trying to guess at all these things.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 12, 2018 8:55:58 GMT
Look, let's be honest here. Nobody has a 'hidden agenda' or anything sinister. It's just different peoples views of what is happening at Rovers. Yes, there is speculation and guesswork involved, and this is because of the lack of communication from the club. Some people are happy with the improvements at the Mem. Others view it as just prolonging the demise of the club. Yes, it is good to see improvements being made at the Mem, nobody denies that, but for some (me included) it doesn't improve our views of the long-term viability and progress of the club. Previous owners (GD and NH) are constantly criticized on here from some for their lack of investment in the Mem, but this was because both men believed there was no long-term future for the club at the Mem. They were both desperate to find another home, and in fairness, NH came within an hairsbreath of pulling it off. We've now owned a field in South Glos for sixteen months, and we've still to see any planning application go in to the Council. Is it any wonder why some are questioning the direction the club are going? It's like we (the fans) are on the deck of an old sailing ship. We don't know the destination, we don't know what direction we are going, we don't know how long it will take, we don't know whose hand controls the Tiller, and the Captain refuses to tell us anything......we're just on the deck, never knowing if the ship will lurch to Port or Starboard, trying to guess at all these things.and we have run out of Life rafts with the ship sinking !
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