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Post by axegas on May 26, 2018 18:46:14 GMT
Ffs Waq has clearly told us BRFC have walked away from any potential agreement with the UWE. Waq says he intends, at some stage in the future ("evolution strategy"), on a piecemeal basis, to refurbish the MEM; therefore, why do people still talk about building a stadium at the UWE ? Because "refurbishing the Mem" is in plain language "polishing a turd". It depends on the scale of the redevelopment though, doesn't it? If the board are planning to build new stands to at the Mem to replace the current inadequate ones then far from "polishing a turd" I think the stadium will actually look quite nice, Plymouth turned a dilapidated ground that was not fit for purpose into what will be an impressive and modern looking ground with the completion of the grandstand. If however the sum total of the redevelopment is a few tents and other minor improvements to maximise short term revenue, then I would be inclined to agree with you. I'm not holding my breath for any multi million pound transformation of the Mem, it's Bristol Rovers after all, but you'd have to question the Al Qadi's ambition and intent if all they were to do was to leave us in our current state of leaking money each year whilst other clubs leave us in their wake. Small things such as the recruitment of a whole host of Staff, new offices and the purchase of land for the Colony ect are promising but you do really feel now that the Al Qadi's do need to make a serious leap towards securing new infrastructure if the club is to progress any further.
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Post by aghast on May 26, 2018 21:33:57 GMT
The UWE was the only bit of land big enough and close enough to build a stadium for us. Everywhere else is down to houses, mainly because people are coming here from London by there thousands. Can anyone honestly think of anywhere within easy reach where there is land big enough to build a stadium? No, neither can I Alongside the M32. There is enough land for a 100 stadiums. How big do you think they are? Its also big big enough for a Rugby club to build one there. Oh, hang on, someone did. If our current owners can't strike a deal, why don't they disclose what the problem is? All they've said as far as I recall, is that UWE didn't respond by an arbitrary date that they imposed. New owners please. Didn't you state a few days ago, in a post which has now, unless I'm wrong, been deleted, state that you were 99.9% confident that the UWE stadium will be built?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 26, 2018 21:41:43 GMT
Alongside the M32. There is enough land for a 100 stadiums. How big do you think they are? Its also big big enough for a Rugby club to build one there. Oh, hang on, someone did. If our current owners can't strike a deal, why don't they disclose what the problem is? All they've said as far as I recall, is that UWE didn't respond by an arbitrary date that they imposed. New owners please. Didn't you state a few days ago, in a post which has now, unless I'm wrong, been deleted, state that you were 99.9% confident that the UWE stadium will be built? It was Severncider, which I think he has posted two or three times recently. Didn't say who was going to build it mind, maybe the American businessmen he said he will be meeting soon.
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Post by aghast on May 26, 2018 21:44:52 GMT
I get a bit mixed up with my inCiders.
Oops.
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Post by aghast on May 26, 2018 21:49:09 GMT
Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
Bolders might know.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 26, 2018 21:54:24 GMT
The UWE was the only bit of land big enough and close enough to build a stadium for us. Everywhere else is down to houses, mainly because people are coming here from London by there thousands. Can anyone honestly think of anywhere within easy reach where there is land big enough to build a stadium? No, neither can I Alongside the M32. There is enough land for a 100 stadiums. How big do you think they are? Its also big big enough for a Rugby club to build one there. Oh, hang on, someone did. If our current owners can't strike a deal, why don't they disclose what the problem is? All they've said as far as I recall, is that UWE didn't respond by an arbitrary date that they imposed. New owners please. Why the obsession with UWE? You said yourself that there are alternative sites (which I think there are) and if the current owners are able to deliver then what is the issue? I appreciate we have lost a good opportunity and crucially time, but is it really UWE or bust? With regards why, officially things were dragging out and a deadline was set which was missed. Wael said himself at the time that he wanted to give a bit longer but he leak forced his hand. Had the leak not happened then maybe the brinkmanship would have worked. And as for why not disclose the reasons now, if we did then it wouldn't look good for future business dealings. If businesses thought we would blab when a deal fell through then they wouldn't come near us in the first place.
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Post by Severncider on May 26, 2018 22:04:19 GMT
Didn't you state a few days ago, in a post which has now, unless I'm wrong, been deleted, state that you were 99.9% confident that the UWE stadium will be built? It was Severncider, which I think he has posted two or three times recently. Didn't say who was going to build it mind, maybe the American businessmen he said he will be meeting soon. I have in fact been saying this for the last twelve months. I have never met or spoken to the owner of the New York Mets, I am being treated to hospitality by a mutual friend who is the owner of the "suite" next to the owner of The Mets "suite". He is also incredibly wealthy. Wealth has nothing to do with success. Look at what it has achieved at Sunderland or 1982 Ltd.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 26, 2018 22:37:53 GMT
It was Severncider, which I think he has posted two or three times recently. Didn't say who was going to build it mind, maybe the American businessmen he said he will be meeting soon. I have in fact been saying this for the last twelve months. I have never met or spoken to the owner of the New York Mets, I am being treated to hospitality by a mutual friend who is the owner of the "suite" next to the owner of The Mets "suite". He is also incredibly wealthy. Wealth has nothing to do with success. Look at what it has achieved at Sunderland or 1982 Ltd. Thanks for the clarification. Any space for me to come along? Out of interest, are you prepared to say why you think that? Do you believe it involves us (as in BRFC playing there, not necesarily a Dwane Sports project) or as a private venture unrelated to us and we will continue with something else/nothing at all.
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Post by singupgas on May 27, 2018 5:13:12 GMT
Interesting that the application was received and validated in just 6 days... makes me wonder what is going on with Training Ground, I can't believe it has taken so long really.
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Post by pucklegas on May 27, 2018 10:23:10 GMT
The UWE was the only bit of land big enough and close enough to build a stadium for us. Everywhere else is down to houses, mainly because people are coming here from London by there thousands. Can anyone honestly think of anywhere within easy reach where there is land big enough to build a stadium? No, neither can I Alongside the M32. There is enough land for a 100 stadiums. How big do you think they are? Its also big big enough for a Rugby club to build one there. Oh, hang on, someone did. If our current owners can't strike a deal, why don't they disclose what the problem is? All they've said as far as I recall, is that UWE didn't respond by an arbitrary date that they imposed. New owners please. I think the fact that you are no longer privileged with “tittle tattle” from Higgs to post on her being then an Itk er to being a normal poster infuriates you, you keep posting anti- board stuff like at Xmas that a third party paid the players. when they announce the new stadium I take it you will change your title, because I can’t see you eating humble pie on here😄
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Post by gasincider on May 27, 2018 23:27:06 GMT
Never told owt by Higgs, and couldn't stand Watola.
Never said a third party paid the players.
If I'm wrong and Wael and Co build a new stadium, I'll be the happiest guy in the world, and I'll apologise on here. Trouble is it's pie in the sky.
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Post by pucklegas on May 28, 2018 9:52:06 GMT
Never told owt by Higgs, and couldn't stand Watola. Never said a third party paid the players. If I'm wrong and Wael and Co build a new stadium, I'll be the happiest guy in the world, and I'll apologise on here. Trouble is it's pie in the sky. You said at Xmas “so I understand” when there was mention of the players not being paid by the club. my gripe is the anti board posting, it gets us nowhere just negativity breeding negativity, some said we were close to administration prior to Waels takeover, so we are in a better position surely? i am disappointed there is no new ground but believe all these appointments are because there is something going on.
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Post by toddy1953 on May 28, 2018 10:20:37 GMT
Never told owt by Higgs, and couldn't stand Watola. Never said a third party paid the players. If I'm wrong and Wael and Co build a new stadium, I'll be the happiest guy in the world, and I'll apologise on here. Trouble is it's pie in the sky. You said at Xmas “so I understand” when there was mention of the players not being paid by the club. my gripe is the anti board posting, it gets us nowhere just negativity breeding negativity, some said we were close to administration prior to Waels takeover, so we are in a better position surely? i am disappointed there is no new ground but believe all these appointments are because there is something going on. Puckle, I agree with the sentiment here, bbut what is the difference between people saying when Higgs was in charge that we are close to Admin & now some bashing the current board. Both can be judged as negative or as IMO it's just somebody's view or opinion. its a forum after all, and I have come to the conclusion that no one knows anything on here, irrespective of their user names. It's all opinions, their views or views of people they have spoken to. What surprises me most it that people continually bite when certain posters post something that implies the truth, perhaps all the responses aides to a negative vibe for some.
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Post by pucklegas on May 28, 2018 10:29:43 GMT
You said at Xmas “so I understand” when there was mention of the players not being paid by the club. my gripe is the anti board posting, it gets us nowhere just negativity breeding negativity, some said we were close to administration prior to Waels takeover, so we are in a better position surely? i am disappointed there is no new ground but believe all these appointments are because there is something going on. Puckle, I agree with the sentiment here, bbut what is the difference between people saying when Higgs was in charge that we are close to Admin & now some bashing the current board. Both can be judged as negative or as IMO it's just somebody's view or opinion. its a forum after all, and I have come to the conclusion that no one knows anything on here, irrespective of their user names. It's all opinions, their views or views of people they have spoken to. What surprises me most it that people continually bite when certain posters post something that implies the truth, perhaps all the responses aides to a negative vibe for some. I am not going to inflame the situation but those posters you allude to claimed to be itk, they had the ears of others, now they have no credibility left, it was not opinion it was claimed to be factual, I along with others got taken in foolishly, posters can put their own opinions that is their perogative. Wael has made us a more professional set up in my opinion.
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Post by Severncider on May 28, 2018 11:06:54 GMT
Puckle, I agree with the sentiment here, bbut what is the difference between people saying when Higgs was in charge that we are close to Admin & now some bashing the current board. Both can be judged as negative or as IMO it's just somebody's view or opinion. its a forum after all, and I have come to the conclusion that no one knows anything on here, irrespective of their user names. It's all opinions, their views or views of people they have spoken to. What surprises me most it that people continually bite when certain posters post something that implies the truth, perhaps all the responses aides to a negative vibe for some. I am not going to inflame the situation but those posters you allude to claimed to be itk, they had the ears of others, now they have no credibility left, it was not opinion it was claimed to be factual, I along with others got taken in foolishly, posters can put their own opinions that is their perogative. Wael has made us a more professional set up in my opinion. You appear to be confused between opinions and facts. In my OPINION there is a 99.9% chance of UWE still being built, I have never said when or by whom as Wael has indicated that we are no longer interested. A FACT is that no plans have been submitted for the development of The Mem or the training ground, despite being told that by now these would have been submitted. I believe that Wael had the best interests of BRFC when he took over, but you cannot convince me that the rest of his family are 100% on board with this project.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 28, 2018 15:04:53 GMT
I am not going to inflame the situation but those posters you allude to claimed to be itk, they had the ears of others, now they have no credibility left, it was not opinion it was claimed to be factual, I along with others got taken in foolishly, posters can put their own opinions that is their perogative. Wael has made us a more professional set up in my opinion. You appear to be confused between opinions and facts. In my OPINION there is a 99.9% chance of UWE still being built, I have never said when or by whom as Wael has indicated that we are no longer interested. A FACT is that no plans have been submitted for the development of The Mem or the training ground, despite being told that by now these would have been submitted.I believe that Wael had the best interests of BRFC when he took over, but you cannot convince me that the rest of his family are 100% on board with this project. Can you point in the direction where this is stated as " FACT" Plans will be submitted for the Mem ?. At no point can i remember Wael or his stooge stating that
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Post by swissgas on May 28, 2018 15:21:08 GMT
You appear to be confused between opinions and facts. In my OPINION there is a 99.9% chance of UWE still being built, I have never said when or by whom as Wael has indicated that we are no longer interested. A FACT is that no plans have been submitted for the development of The Mem or the training ground, despite being told that by now these would have been submitted.I believe that Wael had the best interests of BRFC when he took over, but you cannot convince me that the rest of his family are 100% on board with this project. Can you point in the direction where this is stated as " FACT" Plans will be submitted for the Mem ?. At no point can i remember Wael or his stooge stating that In his interview with Keith Brookman last August Wael said plan B was "to look into the regeneration of the Memorial Stadium" he said "that's what we want to do, our aim is to provide supporters with modern beautiful facilities." He then went on to tell Keith that to do this the club would have to submit new plans for the Mem and followed up by saying "even with UWE we would have had to go back to planning".
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Post by Severncider on May 28, 2018 15:51:49 GMT
You appear to be confused between opinions and facts. In my OPINION there is a 99.9% chance of UWE still being built, I have never said when or by whom as Wael has indicated that we are no longer interested. A FACT is that no plans have been submitted for the development of The Mem or the training ground, despite being told that by now these would have been submitted.I believe that Wael had the best interests of BRFC when he took over, but you cannot convince me that the rest of his family are 100% on board with this project. Can you point in the direction where this is stated as " FACT" Plans will be submitted for the Mem ?. At no point can i remember Wael or his stooge stating that SH said at the AGM that plans would be submitted for the training ground in about nine weeks.
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Post by cj on May 28, 2018 16:20:36 GMT
There are some good threads on this board that unfortunately don't manage to get 2 or 3 pages of comments. Then you get BS threads like this, from people who claim they are in the know, which has got 7 pages worth of comments on it and will probably get 15 pages plus worth of comments. This just massages their ego's and keeps on making them come back with yet more BS threads. Rant over. As you were everyone
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Post by paulpirate on May 28, 2018 16:53:30 GMT
It was Severncider, which I think he has posted two or three times recently. Didn't say who was going to build it mind, maybe the American businessmen he said he will be meeting soon. I have in fact been saying this for the last twelve months. I have never met or spoken to the owner of the New York Mets, I am being treated to hospitality by a mutual friend who is the owner of the "suite" next to the owner of The Mets "suite". He is also incredibly wealthy. Wealth has nothing to do with success. Look at what it has achieved at Sunderland or 1982 Ltd. yeah and Man City
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