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Post by lympstonegas on Jun 9, 2018 17:49:41 GMT
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Post by Jomo on Jun 9, 2018 20:42:14 GMT
Personally I think these changes are fair enough. Extra time in the League Cup seems to be something that every team could do without. At least the Checkatrade changes are moving things in the right direction, but I still hate the B teams, and the fact they can name any over 21s is ridiculous and defeats the so-called object of their inclusion in the competition in the first place, but reducing the number to 2 is at least a positive change. Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Let's at least demand the teams use the competition for what the EFL says they're for, if we can't get rid of them altogether.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jun 10, 2018 7:18:21 GMT
Personally I think these changes are fair enough. Extra time in the League Cup seems to be something that every team could do without. At least the Checkatrade changes are moving things in the right direction, but I still hate the B teams, and the fact they can name any over 21s is ridiculous and defeats the so-called object of their inclusion in the competition in the first place, but reducing the number to 2 is at least a positive change. Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Let's at least demand the teams use the competition for what the EFL says they're for, if we can't get rid of them altogether. Agree. Hopefully a further reduction of fines for the league clubs who choose to play their young players, in a competition supposedly designed for young players, to benefit young players! It was like saying on the Premier league kids are good enough, not those in the lower leagues, even though a lot of the premiership youngsters were poached from the lower league teams in the first place! Interesting about being able to play your players who are out on loan to National league sides. Is it just players on loan in that league or all of non league? So for example, when Broom was on loan at Eastleigh, he could have still played for us in this competition. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 10, 2018 11:13:34 GMT
Personally I think these changes are fair enough. Extra time in the League Cup seems to be something that every team could do without. At least the Checkatrade changes are moving things in the right direction, but I still hate the B teams, and the fact they can name any over 21s is ridiculous and defeats the so-called object of their inclusion in the competition in the first place, but reducing the number to 2 is at least a positive change. Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Let's at least demand the teams use the competition for what the EFL says they're for, if we can't get rid of them altogether. Totally agree, great shout. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 10, 2018 12:43:45 GMT
Personally I think these changes are fair enough. Extra time in the League Cup seems to be something that every team could do without. At least the Checkatrade changes are moving things in the right direction, but I still hate the B teams, and the fact they can name any over 21s is ridiculous and defeats the so-called object of their inclusion in the competition in the first place, but reducing the number to 2 is at least a positive change. Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Let's at least demand the teams use the competition for what the EFL says they're for, if we can't get rid of them altogether. Agree. Hopefully a further reduction of fines for the league clubs who choose to play their young players, in a competition supposedly designed for young players, to benefit young players! It was like saying on the Premier league kids are good enough, not those in the lower leagues, even though a lot of the premiership youngsters were poached from the lower league teams in the first place! Interesting about being able to play your players who are out on loan to National league sides. Is it just players on loan in that league or all of non league? So for example, when Broom was on loan at Eastleigh, he could have still played for us in this competition. Broom was at a National League side? I assume players playing at any lower level aren't considered really up to 1st team action, even in the EFL Cup? No issue with a couple of over 21's playing as they'll bring a bit of experience to the side. |
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Post by popuppirate on Jun 11, 2018 21:12:20 GMT
I'll be swerving the checkatrade
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jun 12, 2018 21:49:22 GMT
Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Um, whether you personally agree or disagree with your penultimate sentence, surely there's a law in place for many years against that kind of discrimination? I will be continuing my boycott of the tournament and urge everyone else to do so, but help to fund it by buying 50/50 tickets or the like.. |
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Post by Jomo on Jun 12, 2018 22:17:44 GMT
Next step is to remove the inclusion of any non-English players in the B teams also. Um, whether you personally agree or disagree with your penultimate sentence, surely there's a law in place for many years against that kind of discrimination? I will be continuing my boycott of the tournament and urge everyone else to do so, but help to fund it by buying 50/50 tickets or the like.. I completely disagree with any kind of discrimination, however I want the EFL and FA to stand by their own reasons for ruining the EFL Trophy for the lower league clubs. The reason given was to help the English game and give young home grown players more competitive game time. In my opinion, playing foreign youngsters will do nothing to achieve those "so-called" objectives. |
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Post by Gassy on Jun 13, 2018 6:43:27 GMT
I agree, I had a big argument over email with the EFL about this, frankly they didn't really have any other response other than Oxford Vs Coventry got a big crowd at Wembley therefore its working!
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Post by rosssgb on Jun 13, 2018 7:21:30 GMT
I'll be swerving the checkatrade + 1 Will not see me contributing to something which has the ultimate aim of placing Prem B teams into the football league pyramid. I truly believe as soon as one of these ‘U21/B’ teams win the competition we will see a real push for the 4th division idea to be introduced. |
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 13, 2018 7:59:22 GMT
I agree, I had a big argument over email with the EFL about this, frankly they didn't really have any other response other than Oxford Vs Coventry got a big crowd at Wembley therefore its working! And that goes directly to the main point I have made previously about the “boycott” of this tournament in its current format. The EFL don’t give a fat rats arse about all the group games that we don’t go to. Unless, and until, fans don’t go to Wembley stadium to watch their teams at the final the EFLwill continue to see it as a “success”. If you want to boycott this tournament then, in my view, you have to boycott it completely and make the decision that you will not go to the final should your team make it there. It’s a pointless exercise otherwise as shown above by their response. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jun 13, 2018 18:14:28 GMT
I'll be swerving the checkatrade + 1 Will not see me contributing to something which has the ultimate aim of placing Prem B teams into the football league pyramid. I truly believe as soon as one of these ‘U21/B’ teams win the competition we will see a real push for the 4th division idea to be introduced. Completely agree. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 13, 2018 18:19:06 GMT
I agree, I had a big argument over email with the EFL about this, frankly they didn't really have any other response other than Oxford Vs Coventry got a big crowd at Wembley therefore its working! And that goes directly to the main point I have made previously about the “boycott” of this tournament in its current format. The EFL don’t give a fat rats arse about all the group games that we don’t go to. Unless, and until, fans don’t go to Wembley stadium to watch their teams at the final the EFLwill continue to see it as a “success”. If you want to boycott this tournament then, in my view, you have to boycott it completely and make the decision that you will not go to the final should your team make it there. It’s a pointless exercise otherwise as shown above by their response. The fact that so many Oxford, Coventry, Lincoln and Shrewsbury fans have turned up for the finals show that's, sadly, falling on death ears. |
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Post by mattgashead on Jun 13, 2018 20:38:52 GMT
I’ll never go to a Checkatrade game with the premier league teams. Always thought it was a great competition with leagues 1 and 2, and I’m still happy to go to these games. It’s better that we go to league 1 and 2 games to show we still want them, but agree with everyone ditching the premier league ones.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jun 14, 2018 6:04:02 GMT
And that goes directly to the main point I have made previously about the “boycott” of this tournament in its current format. The EFL don’t give a fat rats arse about all the group games that we don’t go to. Unless, and until, fans don’t go to Wembley stadium to watch their teams at the final the EFLwill continue to see it as a “success”. If you want to boycott this tournament then, in my view, you have to boycott it completely and make the decision that you will not go to the final should your team make it there. It’s a pointless exercise otherwise as shown above by their response. The fact that so many Oxford, Coventry, Lincoln and Shrewsbury fans have turned up for the finals show that's, sadly, falling on death ears. This is why we really need to see one of the B teams get to the final. For a start, one end of Wembley will be empty. You can kind of understand when two league teams get to the final why the fans want to go for the whole Wembley experience. Wasn't it Coventry's and Lincolns first trip to the new Wembley? But would so many fans want to go if they were not even playing against a proper team? Even better if two B teams made the final! They would be desperately trying to get rid of tickets! |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jun 14, 2018 6:06:51 GMT
I’ll never go to a Checkatrade game with the premier league teams. Always thought it was a great competition with leagues 1 and 2, and I’m still happy to go to these games. It’s better that we go to league 1 and 2 games to show we still want them, but agree with everyone ditching the premier league ones. Would be a lot better to go back to the original format, but maybe add in the Conference teams. Even Conference North and South teams and seeded it so we would play home or away to a Conference South team in the first round. That would be much more fun. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 14, 2018 6:15:08 GMT
I will exercise my right to watch any Rovers game i choose, including this mickey mouse cup game.
Like the last 2 seasons i will be there to support my team regardless of who or what we are playing
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