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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
Agree with the sentiments of the OP but in the real world for a club like bristol rovers its probably not possible to get your transfer business done before pre-season.
We play with one up front so not sure we need 4 or 5 strikers and we dont play with wingers so i cant see any need to sign any unless they can play the attacking cut inside midfield role. Dc has clearly stated he likes full backs that can "bomb" forward so thats a key area for new signings as well as another stiker imo.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 19, 2018 19:21:46 GMT
I know there is plenty of time to make signings but the only thing I ask is that we get it done and dusted with the majority of signings completed before the players return to training. It is my opinion that our poor first half of the season is mainly down to poor preparation in the close season. Yes DC generally gets it right in the end but I am sure that if new players had the time to bed in (Pre season friendlies) then we would have a better chance of a good start. Last season was particularly bad with friendlies played with pretty weak teams and this season IMO it is even more important with as many as seven players likely to come in. Personally I like the ideal of signings not being able to be made after the first match until January as it means Managers have to get their teams in place earliar. At the present time we have now lost two of our strikers from last season (Telford and Gaffney) and with the non scoring Nicholls and Ellis the only two left it would seem that we need two possibly three strikers and they are the players that everyone wants and can really define the season. So far Upson seems a good quality signing but Williams is very much an untried player at this level similar to Mensah so the seven which DC was hoping to sign will now be 8 due to Gaffney going. It is a lot of work to make that number of signings and to get the majority right and whilst several teams have made rapid signings we all know that this can backfire spectacularly as Bury last season but it can also backfire the opposite way where signings are made too slowly leaving new players no time to settle in. The next couple of weeks could well define how our season goes and whilst our midfield seems OK now we lack wingers and strikers and a left back or two would not go amiss. Personally I would like to see another keeper come in to challenge Slocombe and a dominant centre half to challenge in that area but I hope that we will now see some experienced League players as you can only afford to make one or two non league signings as it is a big gap between National and League 1. Of course what we get in is NOT down to DC alone as the quality will depend very much on the budget he is given. We can only hope that it is reasonable but also better spent than the Nichols signing last year. for me we need a couple of physically strong strikers as we are too light weight in that area and a bit of pace in our wingers would not go amiss. Looking forward with anticipation to the next few weeks. This is not DCs way
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 19:27:23 GMT
Not sure where this 'one up front' thing has come from. As I recall it, this was mainly the case in just the last few games of the season when we were decimated by injuries and needed to pack the midfield against quality sides from above us in the table. For the most part of 2017-18, we played 4-3-3.
However, looking forward, I would agree that it is very difficult for clubs like ours to get all our business done early. As the OP says, ideally we would do so, but this is the real world, it ain't Fifa. Others have outlined the difficulties in being able to do business early, chiefly that the better players can afford to hold out longer for the best deal they can get. For all we know, Lyle Taylor may be an example of that.
What do we need? Well, clearly at least one left back, probably two. Tony Craig could play there if needs be and will do his usual solid defensive job, but much of our game us based on overlapping full backs and he won't do that.
We've hopefully sorted the central midfield requirement with tbe Ed Upson signing, so that leaves as priority two strikers and a right winger. The latter allows us to play 4-4-2 again, which has been DC's preferred system over the years but didn't get played much last year due to the lack of wingers on the books.
So, two left backs, one right winger and two strikers as priority. Any other improvements would be great, but these are the signings we need to make in my opinion.
Isn't it great talking about football rather than the so called lack of communication, balance sheets, fields in South Glos, stadium conspiracy theories, sponsor names, blah blah blah...
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Post by tbonegas on Jun 19, 2018 20:12:44 GMT
Unfortunately, Iniesta cannot be tempted by the 500 quid per week offer we put on the table, and Ronaldo is too old to be fair. On the basis that Ronaldo is too old, we had better get rid of 80% of the fanbase then! Speak for yourself. I am a spritely 61.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 20:37:50 GMT
On the basis that Ronaldo is too old, we had better get rid of 80% of the fanbase then! Speak for yourself. I am a spritely 61. That's the trouble with you young gasheads! Without us oldies, we would only get crowds of 3000!
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 19, 2018 20:42:15 GMT
On the basis that Ronaldo is too old, we had better get rid of 80% of the fanbase then! Speak for yourself. I am a spritely 61. I can confirm that he is still fast at 61 except when it’s his round 😂
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Post by tbonegas on Jun 19, 2018 21:00:45 GMT
Speak for yourself. I am a spritely 61. I can confirm that he is still fast at 61 except when it’s his round 😂 Round? I do not understand that word. Can you please give a definition?
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 19, 2018 21:02:54 GMT
I can confirm that he is still fast at 61 except when it’s his round 😂 Round? I do not understand that word. Can you please give a definition? When Chris has an empty glass and starts coughing 😂😂😂😂
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Post by tbonegas on Jun 19, 2018 21:19:13 GMT
Round? I do not understand that word. Can you please give a definition? When Chris has an empty glass and starts coughing 😂😂😂😂 That's an old smokers problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 21:21:03 GMT
Not sure where this 'one up front' thing has come from. As I recall it, this was mainly the case in just the last few games of the season when we were decimated by injuries and needed to pack the midfield against quality sides from above us in the table. For the most part of 2017-18, we played 4-3-3. However, looking forward, I would agree that it is very difficult for clubs like ours to get all our business done early. As the OP says, ideally we would do so, but this is the real world, it ain't Fifa. Others have outlined the difficulties in being able to do business early, chiefly that the better players can afford to hold out longer for the best deal they can get. For all we know, Lyle Taylor may be an example of that. What do we need? Well, clearly at least one left back, probably two. Tony Craig could play there if needs be and will do his usual solid defensive job, but much of our game us based on overlapping full backs and he won't do that. We've hopefully sorted the central midfield requirement with tbe Ed Upson signing, so that leaves as priority two strikers and a right winger. The latter allows us to play 4-4-2 again, which has been DC's preferred system over the years but didn't get played much last year due to the lack of wingers on the books. So, two left backs, one right winger and two strikers as priority. Any other improvements would be great, but these are the signings we need to make in my opinion. Isn't it great talking about football rather than the so called lack of communication, balance sheets, fields in South Glos, stadium conspiracy theories, sponsor names, blah blah blah... Reference 1 up front i suppose its interpetive,we played with ellis as a striker and byron moore/kyle bennett deeper than ellis quite a lot towards the end of the season. For you thats 4-3-3 i guess? for me its 4-5-1. Im not implying its a negative system,in fact it suits the players we have well imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 21:40:01 GMT
Not sure where this 'one up front' thing has come from. As I recall it, this was mainly the case in just the last few games of the season when we were decimated by injuries and needed to pack the midfield against quality sides from above us in the table. For the most part of 2017-18, we played 4-3-3. However, looking forward, I would agree that it is very difficult for clubs like ours to get all our business done early. As the OP says, ideally we would do so, but this is the real world, it ain't Fifa. Others have outlined the difficulties in being able to do business early, chiefly that the better players can afford to hold out longer for the best deal they can get. For all we know, Lyle Taylor may be an example of that. What do we need? Well, clearly at least one left back, probably two. Tony Craig could play there if needs be and will do his usual solid defensive job, but much of our game us based on overlapping full backs and he won't do that. We've hopefully sorted the central midfield requirement with tbe Ed Upson signing, so that leaves as priority two strikers and a right winger. The latter allows us to play 4-4-2 again, which has been DC's preferred system over the years but didn't get played much last year due to the lack of wingers on the books. So, two left backs, one right winger and two strikers as priority. Any other improvements would be great, but these are the signings we need to make in my opinion. Isn't it great talking about football rather than the so called lack of communication, balance sheets, fields in South Glos, stadium conspiracy theories, sponsor names, blah blah blah... Reference 1 up front i suppose its interpetive,we played with ellis as a striker and byron moore/kyle bennett deeper than ellis quite a lot towards the end of the season. For you thats 4-3-3 i guess? for me its 4-5-1. Im not implying its a negative system,in fact it suits the players we have well imo. Fair comment, and I agree it suits tbe players just fine. I guess I was thinking more about the Harrison, Gaffney, Nichols combination from earlier in the season but I take your point about Bennett and Moore playing deeper, effectively making that a 4-5-1. I'm hoping that a new winger or two will enable DC to play 4-4-2 when he sees fit. Not necessarily every week, for the players' adaptability has in my opinion been a key aspect of our success of recent years, but I don't think that system was an option for him for much of the season.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 20, 2018 8:24:41 GMT
In an ideal world we would get our choices early but we are Bristol Rovers so nothing is ever ideal. In the end so long as the manager gets who he wants before pre season then that’s as good as it’s going to get. With the changes in transfer window I guess DC will be about to have two very busy weeks, I hope. The other difference is that the development squad being one year old will give him more options though probably not yet for first team regulars. Hope he uses it though as back up. At least two strikers, probably a left back and I will be happy. If Mellanise goes out on loan perhaps another centre half, if he doesn’t then no. Not too much business needed in terms of numbers but the right business in terms of quality. UTG!
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Post by markczgas on Jun 20, 2018 9:20:15 GMT
Patience required. We've made 2 signings and lost 1 player - not bad for us. Most teams have done very little business. I can only think of Crazy Posh and Fleetwood (Joey Barton now there) who've made lots of signings.
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Post by lpgas on Jun 20, 2018 12:42:21 GMT
DC always says he is going to sign 6 or 7 and he rarely does. Personally I think we would be better off having a slightly smaller squad but more quality, and lets not forget we have some good players in the U 23's
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 20, 2018 12:55:31 GMT
Linked allegedly to George Maris from Cambridge and the Irish lad Michael Duffy both look good prospects so maybe some news next week
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Post by pirate on Jun 20, 2018 14:44:22 GMT
Patience required. We've made 2 signings and lost 1 player - not bad for us. Most teams have done very little business. I can only think of Crazy Posh and Fleetwood (Joey Barton now there) who've made lots of signings. One player? We've lost Moore, Brown, Gaffney, Bola, Telford and Sweeney. Also, I think Fleetwood have only made three signings, one more than us.
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Post by axegas on Jun 20, 2018 14:55:41 GMT
Linked allegedly to George Maris from Cambridge and the Irish lad Michael Duffy both look good prospects so maybe some news next week George Maris is an attacking midfielder and we have a few of those already so not sure there's really a need for him. Duffy is a left winger, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in some competition for Bennett but right wing is really the priority position to fill this summer. Haven't seen us linked with any so far but I'm sure DC has a list of targets.
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Post by pirate on Jun 20, 2018 15:03:32 GMT
Linked allegedly to George Maris from Cambridge and the Irish lad Michael Duffy both look good prospects so maybe some news next week George Maris is an attacking midfielder and we have a few of those already so not sure there's really a need for him. Duffy is a left winger, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in some competition for Bennett but right wing is really the priority position to fill this summer. Haven't seen us linked with any so far but I'm sure DC has a list of targets. The majority of Maris' games this season have been from the left wing, the same as Duffy, although Duffy is right footed and can play as a right winger, where he played a lot of his games last season (16/17).
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 20, 2018 18:03:29 GMT
George Maris is an attacking midfielder and we have a few of those already so not sure there's really a need for him. Duffy is a left winger, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in some competition for Bennett but right wing is really the priority position to fill this summer. Haven't seen us linked with any so far but I'm sure DC has a list of targets. The majority of Maris' games this season have been from the left wing, the same as Duffy, although Duffy is right footed and can play as a right winger, where he played a lot of his games last season (16/17). Wes are we finally going to sign that 100 goal a season striker for Jersey ?
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Post by albaron on Jun 20, 2018 18:03:43 GMT
Patience required. We've made 2 signings and lost 1 player - not bad for us. Most teams have done very little business. I can only think of Crazy Posh and Fleetwood (Joey Barton now there) who've made lots of signings. One player? We've lost Moore, Brown, Gaffney, Bola, Telford and Sweeney. Also, I think Fleetwood have only made three signings, one more than us. And Broom & Burn
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