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Post by aghast on Jul 6, 2018 20:47:41 GMT
It's bizarre to me how a serving police officer is posting details of the date of her meeting with a Bristol Rovers fan, who has allegations of violence by Bristol City fans, on a Bristol City forum.
PC Julie's Sergeant might want to have a stern word in her ear. It's not very professional. They haven't revealed the time or location, but that might not stop a few meatheads turning up around his shop on the day to discuss the finer points of law involved in this issue.
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Post by neighbour on Jul 6, 2018 20:54:36 GMT
OK People ! I have just had a long 45 minute telephone conversation with the Police officer concerned and i'm looking forward to my meeting with her next week and introducing her to the people involved Lets hope we can get to the bottom of the issue once and for all Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 6, 2018 22:05:38 GMT
OK People ! I have just had a long 45 minute telephone conversation with the Police officer concerned and i'm looking forward to my meeting with her next week and introducing her to the people involved Lets hope we can get to the bottom of the issue once and for all Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Are you lost?
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Post by neighbour on Jul 6, 2018 22:42:56 GMT
Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Are you lost? What?
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Post by 4evergas67 on Jul 6, 2018 23:37:24 GMT
Makes me laugh how she says “I’m nobody’s pet copper” and of coarse “I’M TOTALLY UNBIASED” but completely ignores the problem until her six fingered mates keep bringing it up and demand that she does something about it. Well if that’s the best that Avon and Somerset can put forward as a football liaison officer then a wanna know who she’s shagging.
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Post by cj on Jul 7, 2018 0:21:08 GMT
I have no issues of her joining this forum. It would be interesting to see her explain why she has posted certain confidential information out in public, like date and time when she is seeing Henbury. She could have easily stated a time and date has been made without actually posting the time and date! Also would be good to see her explain why she thought posting this on OTIB is a good idea "Well what a response on the other forum, clearly the fans there are not happy for me to go on and therefore I won’t." That will just stir things further.
Once she explained herself then ban her. The way she has conducted herself over this is cringeworthy and shows a lack of professionalism. I hope Henbury complains about her conduct because she could have handled this so much more better and more tactful. To me, she is playing up to posters on OTIB instead of actually doing her job properly. Our taxes pay her wages.
So let her on to explain herself and make a public apology to Henbury then kick her off this site.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2018 1:05:52 GMT
From what I know about policing, and I know a bit, JulieH has absolutely no jurisdiction here unless a formal complaint has been made to the police and it has then been assigned through the appropriate channels. And it certainly wouldn’t be specifically given to JulieH. It would be assigned through the force district to the police station local to the person making the complaint. Unless it was a severe accusation with hard evidence It would be handled by local by a PCSO or a back office investigating officer (non policing) to make a statement before being reviewed and handed to an investigating police officer who would then decide whether any official conversations need to be had, like inviting someone in for questioning and or making arrests based on initial presented evidence.
Every police force in the UK now have a trained cyber team to investigate things from hate crime, terrorism and bullying. If a complaint is made the police won’t even need the cooperation from mods on this forum. The digital IP address puts the dot on the head of the person/computer making comments to within a couple of feet and the evidence is what is posted by email or in the public domain. Even if emails and posts are deleted they are recoverable either from the hard drive of the computer or by using the trace of the web.
Even if henbury has his meeting with JulieH it would be nothing more than an off the record chat and why she would get involved is only to curry favour or points score. If I was Henbury, I would think twice about doing so.
It would appear to me that JulieH may well be a well meaning copper, but it’s nothing more than a bit of badge flashing, which goes against the code of conduct and ethics of policing and unless she is on duty in active uniform or in action under the authority of her rank and warrant card on her shift rota, there is nothing official in what she is doing.
If there was a genuine complaint to be made it should be made in an official capacity as, if there is foundation, any conviction risks collapse in a court of law.
This forum is completely independent and BRFC have no jurisdiction on who should be members, the rules or code of conduct its guided by, and they certainly have no influence over the mod team.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 7, 2018 5:34:10 GMT
OK People ! I have just had a long 45 minute telephone conversation with the Police officer concerned and i'm looking forward to my meeting with her next week and introducing her to the people involved Lets hope we can get to the bottom of the issue once and for all Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Not sure who she wants to be introduced too but she has confirmed that she has reviewed CCTV and found no evidence to incident. My only question to that was how do you know what game it was at ? She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want
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Post by neighbour on Jul 7, 2018 5:57:26 GMT
Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Not sure who she wants to be introduced too but she has confirmed that she has reviewed CCTV and found no evidence to incident. My only question to that was how do you know what game it was at ? She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want
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Post by neighbour on Jul 7, 2018 5:58:39 GMT
Hopefully the chap will have enough info to help WPC to get sorted
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Post by gregsy on Jul 7, 2018 6:48:15 GMT
Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Not sure who she wants to be introduced too but she has confirmed that she has reviewed CCTV and found no evidence to incident. My only question to that was how do you know what game it was at ? She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want I think it might be a good idea not to post details about your communication with the police given the nature of this!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 7, 2018 7:08:34 GMT
She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want Why, though? Someone on OTIB said 'Rovers are Crap', do we have to find a police officer with a bit of spare time and get them to investigate that allegation? Unless there's some sort of criminal investigation, what is actually happening? She is meeting you because a bunch of teds said they doubted your story; that's all. She's (ab)using her position in order to settle an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with police work. What next, is she gonna interview Darrell over canine abuse? Maybe we could get her to investigate how many teams there actually are in Bristol? It's farcical.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2018 7:53:12 GMT
Unless she turns up in uniform with her laptop and printer ready to make a statement which will be signed and exhibited there will be nothing official about it.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 7, 2018 8:01:28 GMT
She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want Why, though? Someone on OTIB said 'Rovers are Crap', do we have to find a police officer with a bit of spare time and get them to investigate that allegation? Unless there's some sort of criminal investigation, what is actually happening? She is meeting you because a bunch of teds said they doubted your story; that's all. She's (ab)using her position in order to settle an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with police work. What next, is she gonna interview Darrell over canine abuse? Maybe we could get her to investigate how many teams there actually are in Bristol? It's farcical. This is exactly right. The whole thing is just incredibly weird, not to mention unprofessional.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2018 8:30:26 GMT
She came over a pleasant person who just wants to get to the facts of the incident, which is what we all want Why, though? Someone on OTIB said 'Rovers are Crap', do we have to find a police officer with a bit of spare time and get them to investigate that allegation? Unless there's some sort of criminal investigation, what is actually happening? She is meeting you because a bunch of teds said they doubted your story; that's all. She's (ab)using her position in order to settle an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with police work. What next, is she gonna interview Darrell over canine abuse? Maybe we could get her to investigate how many teams there actually are in Bristol? It's farcical. Unless there is a complaint made, or evidence of an offence/crime being committed there can be no “official investigation”. If Julie and Henbury want to meet for lunch to thrash out who is right and wrong on an Internet forum then that is entirely their prerogative to waste each other’s time.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 7, 2018 8:39:37 GMT
Why, though? Someone on OTIB said 'Rovers are Crap', do we have to find a police officer with a bit of spare time and get them to investigate that allegation? Unless there's some sort of criminal investigation, what is actually happening? She is meeting you because a bunch of teds said they doubted your story; that's all. She's (ab)using her position in order to settle an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with police work. What next, is she gonna interview Darrell over canine abuse? Maybe we could get her to investigate how many teams there actually are in Bristol? It's farcical. Unless there is a complaint made, or evidence of an offence/crime being committed there can be no “official investigation”. If Julie and Henbury want to meet for lunch to thrash out who is right and wrong on an Internet forum then that is entirely their prerogative to waste each other’s time. Yes, but if I was Henbury I'd be very, very careful what information is given to her as she is clearly going to run back to OTIB and post anything divulged in detail over there irrespective of whether it should be kept in confidence or not. She has already shown a completely unprofessional attitude to this issue and obviously therefore cannot be trusted to keep any kind of confidence - and by that I mean any personal details pertaining to people involved in this story. Tread carefully Henbury. If she was serious about investigating this in a professional manner she would have contacted Henbury confidentially to discuss this rather than using a public football forum as her communication method.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 7, 2018 8:40:02 GMT
Why, though? Someone on OTIB said 'Rovers are Crap', do we have to find a police officer with a bit of spare time and get them to investigate that allegation? Unless there's some sort of criminal investigation, what is actually happening? She is meeting you because a bunch of teds said they doubted your story; that's all. She's (ab)using her position in order to settle an argument on the internet. Nothing to do with police work. What next, is she gonna interview Darrell over canine abuse? Maybe we could get her to investigate how many teams there actually are in Bristol? It's farcical. Unless there is a complaint made, or evidence of an offence/crime being committed there can be no “official investigation”. If Julie and Henbury want to meet for lunch to thrash out who is right and wrong on an Internet forum then that is entirely their prerogative to waste each other’s time. But fanning the flames by saying things like "I'm not wanted on that forum" when absolutely no attempt was made to contact anyone here and no application to join ever made is ridiculous grandstanding for the One Turd crowd.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 7, 2018 9:12:09 GMT
Unless there is a complaint made, or evidence of an offence/crime being committed there can be no “official investigation”. If Julie and Henbury want to meet for lunch to thrash out who is right and wrong on an Internet forum then that is entirely their prerogative to waste each other’s time. But fanning the flames by saying things like "I'm not wanted on that forum" when absolutely no attempt was made to contact anyone here and no application to join ever made is ridiculous grandstanding for the One Turd crowd. That’s why I have called her out on OTIB.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jul 7, 2018 9:12:09 GMT
OK People ! I have just had a long 45 minute telephone conversation with the Police officer concerned and i'm looking forward to my meeting with her next week and introducing her to the people involved Lets hope we can get to the bottom of the issue once and for all Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Here come the deputies...... If of course Henbury is able to provide the evidence and parties concerned to substantiate his claim I'm not sure how OTIB will ever be able to live this down. It would be a case where you engineered your own downfall and put you own club to shame once again.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 7, 2018 9:18:51 GMT
Great news. Will one of the introductions be to the poor chap who had his teeth knocked out? If he can let her know where he was sat when this all happened I’m sure BCFC will be able to come up with CCTV footage to put this beyond doubt once and for all - no doubt Ashton Gate is fully covered by cameras following redevelopment Here come the deputies...... If of course Henbury is able to provide the evidence and parties concerned to substantiate his claim I'm not sure how OTIB will ever be able to live this down. It would be a case where you engineered your own downfall and put you own club to shame once again. Really, you think she'll bother to mention it? My guess is that she'll just stay quiet and let them continue to mouth off in ignorance.
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