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Post by singupgas on Jul 23, 2018 14:34:21 GMT
With Harrison going and the talk of Lockyer potentially going to Forest - is there anyone from last seasons development squad who can be elevated? Isn’t that why we have the development squad? Menayese should be there or there abouts, did well when he played for us and did well at Swindon i understand.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 23, 2018 14:36:27 GMT
Didn't Eisa recently sign a long term contract? Ellis has (we think) a year left. That's the difference. 750k pkus add ons bringing to a potential total of 1m or so seems about right to me. So because we, once again, haven't tied our player down to a long contract we won't receive the players true value. It seems to be a recurring theme at the Football club. Doncaster have managed to turn down 750k for John Marquis, a player 2 years older with a similar goal record at this level. Fees about right IMO. Only a year left yes, but most fans moaned that we gave him a 2 year deal at the time! Last time we gave him a 3 year deal, was when his form dipped. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Expect we tried to extend it, but if he refused, it's a decent price for him.
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Post by pirate on Jul 23, 2018 14:38:20 GMT
With Harrison going and the talk of Lockyer potentially going to Forest - is there anyone from last seasons development squad who can be elevated? Isn’t that why we have the development squad? Menayese should be there or there abouts, did well when he played for us and did well at Swindon i understand. Actually yes, Rollin could be close. Phil Brown said: “I was quite impressed with Rolly [Rollin Menayese] towards the end, then he got injured and I don’t know how far down the line he is with regards to his recovery, but I will be making that call if I am not successful with the other centre halves. “I was just getting to grips with Rollin Menayese towards the end and [getting him to understand] the importance and the level of importance required in keeping a clean sheet. “He is a young lad, 20 years old, he is just at the right stage for somebody to get a hold of him from a coaching perspective."
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 23, 2018 14:38:43 GMT
What another club choose to do is down to them. We, unfortunately, will sell our players at the drop of a hat to get *some* money for them rather than lose them for nothing. What disappoints me is not so much that we sell, but rather that we have shown to other clubs that we will sell easily, practically begging them to take our best players so we get something for them rather than hold firm and get an inflated value like everyone else is doing when the emphasis should be on the buying club to get us to part with our star players. The reason it is a recurring theme is that we refuse to give out 3 year deals - is letting Taylor, Bodin and Harrison go cheap worth the risk of offering a 3 year deal to a Gary Kenneth? I'm really not sure what the answer is to that given the mess we got ourselves into previously handing out long term deals to players who had no ambition. The club should be able to tell the difference and worth of giving out 3 year deals to the likes of Kenneth on the way down and the likes of Bodin/Taylor/Harrison on the way up. Last time they gave Ellis a 3 year deal, his form dipped. IMO a 2 year deal was right, not long before that, he was on loan at Hartlepool. We have had more success, since giving out shorter contracts. Keeps players motivated more.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 23, 2018 14:42:49 GMT
Menayese should be there or there abouts, did well when he played for us and did well at Swindon i understand. Actually yes, Rollin could be close. Phil Brown said: “I was quite impressed with Rolly [Rollin Menayese] towards the end, then he got injured and I don’t know how far down the line he is with regards to his recovery, but I will be making that call if I am not successful with the other centre halves. “I was just getting to grips with Rollin Menayese towards the end and [getting him to understand] the importance and the level of importance required in keeping a clean sheet. “He is a young lad, 20 years old, he is just at the right stage for somebody to get a hold of him from a coaching perspective." Stop tapping up our player, Tango!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 23, 2018 15:03:15 GMT
If it was £1.25m pluses add-ons I could understand, but not 750k plus add-ons. I think he is worth more to us than that. Thought Chris spittles tweeted over a million and DC told someone that yesterday, don’t mind losing players to bigger clubs but not getting their true value infuriates me, it is like me paying more for my season ticket in the East stand than my mate in the new 82 stand watching championship football, oh wait a minute .....😂😂😂😂
To be honest I don't think Ellis is worth any more than a million tops, but when you compare him to someone like Marc McNulty who has previously flopped in L1, you have to want more than Coventry reportedly got for him.
I guess they are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them but I wouldn't be surprised if Rovers accepted 3/4 million plus add ons.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 23, 2018 15:48:03 GMT
What another club choose to do is down to them. We, unfortunately, will sell our players at the drop of a hat to get *some* money for them rather than lose them for nothing. What disappoints me is not so much that we sell, but rather that we have shown to other clubs that we will sell easily, practically begging them to take our best players so we get something for them rather than hold firm and get an inflated value like everyone else is doing when the emphasis should be on the buying club to get us to part with our star players. The reason it is a recurring theme is that we refuse to give out 3 year deals - is letting Taylor, Bodin and Harrison go cheap worth the risk of offering a 3 year deal to a Gary Kenneth? I'm really not sure what the answer is to that given the mess we got ourselves into previously handing out long term deals to players who had no ambition. The club should be able to tell the difference and worth of giving out 3 year deals to the likes of Kenneth on the way down and the likes of Bodin/Taylor/Harrison on the way up. Looking back at last summer's Harrison "contract" thread I can't see one poster suggested we should have given him anything more than a 1 year contract, after his miss v Posh last August most questioned why DC had offered him a new contract! gaschat.co.uk/thread/10481/ellis-harrisons-contractIt seems posters on here are using any club news to turn it into a negative against the owners even when they've really done nothing wrong.
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Post by pirate on Jul 23, 2018 16:04:21 GMT
I see Mo Eisa has moved to the sh*t for around £1million up front, rising to a maximum over £1.5million if various clauses are activated.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 23, 2018 16:26:45 GMT
I see Mo Eisa has moved to the sh*t for around £1million up front, rising to a maximum over £1.5million if various clauses are activated. Mo Eisa? chuffkin made for Ashton Gate...
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy".
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 23, 2018 17:17:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 17:19:09 GMT
What another club choose to do is down to them. We, unfortunately, will sell our players at the drop of a hat to get *some* money for them rather than lose them for nothing. What disappoints me is not so much that we sell, but rather that we have shown to other clubs that we will sell easily, practically begging them to take our best players so we get something for them rather than hold firm and get an inflated value like everyone else is doing when the emphasis should be on the buying club to get us to part with our star players. The reason it is a recurring theme is that we refuse to give out 3 year deals - is letting Taylor, Bodin and Harrison go cheap worth the risk of offering a 3 year deal to a Gary Kenneth? I'm really not sure what the answer is to that given the mess we got ourselves into previously handing out long term deals to players who had no ambition. The club should be able to tell the difference and worth of giving out 3 year deals to the likes of Kenneth on the way down and the likes of Bodin/Taylor/Harrison on the way up. Ideally yes, but it still relies on the player signing that deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 17:52:06 GMT
I won't believe Ellis is gone until we hear from the man himself. Padstow where you at?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jul 23, 2018 17:57:00 GMT
I won't believe Ellis is gone until we hear from the man himself. Padstow where you at? Oh great. Can't wait for him to return and tell us all how he was right bla bla
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Post by pirate on Jul 23, 2018 18:03:47 GMT
I won't believe Ellis is gone until we hear from the man himself. Padstow where you at? I just texted him and he said 'no comment.'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:25:33 GMT
I see Mo Eisa has moved to the sh*t for around £1million up front, rising to a maximum over £1.5million if various clauses are activated. If City want to buy the canteen from Star Wars then good luck to them. Their fans won't look out of place in it, that is for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:26:51 GMT
I see Mo Eisa has moved to the sh*t for around £1million up front, rising to a maximum over £1.5million if various clauses are activated. Mo Eisa? chuffkin made for Ashton Gate...
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy". Beat me to it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:40:13 GMT
Hopefully a hefty sell on clause included. It seems championship clubs are going overboard hoovering up all the lower league talent, trying to get a share of the premier leagues obscene wealth.
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Post by lpgas on Jul 23, 2018 22:17:20 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 23, 2018 22:21:32 GMT
Did this really need a thread?
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Post by xplosivgas on Jul 23, 2018 22:32:57 GMT
I'm probably in the minority by not being bothered by his leaving, and anything over £500k would be a decent bit of business by the club. Just hope all the proceeds can be spent on the squad.
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