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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 30, 2018 20:16:21 GMT
Found it interesting that DC choose to reveal tonight (for the first time, I believe?) that a lot of other L1 clubs get around FFP through the owners donating funds to their club, where as ours don't do that.
Seemed to be willing to go into more information on our budget tonight than he usually does publicly, I thought..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 20:16:58 GMT
Not sure what your point is? Where did I say he sounds happy!!! DC rarely sounds upbeat in interviews. I didn’t personally get too worried about anything that was said. We know our level (have done for a long time) we are at that level and know we need infrastructure to push on (again known for a long time) So what’s changed? What's changed? Confirmation the ALQ's won't give DC a penny to bring in any players, there seems little chance of anything happening at the colony anytime soon/we have to come up with something within 12 months. DC doesn't seem to be getting on that well with the owners. Fair enough Topper maybe I missed some of it but I didn’t hear DC say he doesn’t get on with the owners or hear him say he had no money to spend.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 30, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
Didn't hear it. So did DC say, we won't be getting a training ground then? Or that he does not know what is happening? Even if he did know, he would not be allowed to say anyway! What do fans expect him to say?? Simple really "work is progressing well with getting pp at The Colony and we still hope to be using the new facilities next summer" it's pretty obvious what we feared is now the case getting pp has ground to a halt. But if we are planning on funding it by building other stuff, we could be waiting to hear about that. DC is not going to come out and say that lol. When we are after 2 strikers, he is not going to come out and say I have money to spend! We bought a player on Monday. Rodman would have been on a good contact. DC is always like this. He could know there was going to be a stadium announcement next week and he would be the same! Don't know why fans bother trying to read him or 2nd guess him.
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 20:18:01 GMT
Back in February 2018:
"To some people one month is way too long to get this project up and running," said Al-Qadi.
"But we've appointed the project manager, who in turn have appointed their own team of designers and architects.
"It's full steam ahead!!"
And even further back during September 2016...
Training ground site "is very advanced" and Chairman and Manager have walked the site of club's proposed new training ground north of the city.
"We'll move in March" to new training ground says chairman Steve Hamer.
Trouble is, that was March 2017!!!
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2018 20:19:25 GMT
Found it interesting that DC choose to reveal tonight (for the first time, I believe?) that a lot of other L1 clubs get around FFP through the owners donating funds to their club, where as ours don't do that. I've been saying the very same thing over and over again for ages myself.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 30, 2018 20:20:24 GMT
Agree GGMI. Sounded a very unhappy bunny to me tonight and after the game Saturday. Our owners seem to be doing their best with their silence to upset the fan base and it would seem to me they have managed to do the same with our Manager. Yes, just listened and he was trying to be upbeat but he was struggling to find much recent stuff to be upbeat about. I don’t think the owners are “doing their best” to upset anyone intentionally but the seemingly lack of progress with the big stuff means they are doing that unintentionally. Listening to that at face value made me think we might not have a striker by the weekend but I also think DC likes to mislead and then pull rabbits out of the hat and then say something along the lines of “we’ve worked hard and got this great striker in for little money and we’ll go again and do our best.” A bit of siege mentality perhaps. UTG! The big problem is that the bloke pulling the main strings (Hani), appears to have no interest in Bristol Rovers. At least not as a hobby, maybe as a financial interest. In which case, he has made a massive mistake getting info a football club.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 30, 2018 20:22:32 GMT
Found it interesting that DC choose to reveal tonight (for the first time, I believe?) that a lot of other L1 clubs get around FFP through the owners donating funds to their club, where as ours don't do that. I've been saying the very same thing over and over again for ages myself. Indeed. Tbf it's been obvious for a while that this is the case - you only have to look at a club of Fleetwood's size signing Dean Marney today to know that. Just found it interesting that he chose to publicly discuss it today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 20:25:26 GMT
What's changed? Confirmation the ALQ's won't give DC a penny to bring in any players, there seems little chance of anything happening at the colony anytime soon/we have to come up with something within 12 months. DC doesn't seem to be getting on that well with the owners. Fair enough Topper maybe I missed some of it but I didn’t hear DC say he doesn’t get on with the owners or hear him say he had no money to spend. He was asked categorically "how is your relationship with the owners". Instead of answering how most people who were happy in their jobs would "great!" "We work really well together" etc he said "me and Wael talk often". What kind of answer is that? Hardly a ringing endorsement however way you slice it.
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Post by axegas on Jul 30, 2018 20:28:37 GMT
Yes, just listened and he was trying to be upbeat but he was struggling to find much recent stuff to be upbeat about. I don’t think the owners are “doing their best” to upset anyone intentionally but the seemingly lack of progress with the big stuff means they are doing that unintentionally. Listening to that at face value made me think we might not have a striker by the weekend but I also think DC likes to mislead and then pull rabbits out of the hat and then say something along the lines of “we’ve worked hard and got this great striker in for little money and we’ll go again and do our best.” A bit of siege mentality perhaps. UTG! The big problem is that the bloke pulling the main strings (Hani), appears to have no interest in Bristol Rovers. At least not as a hobby, maybe as a financial interest. In which case, he has made a massive mistake getting info a football club. I believe he insisted on standing on the terrace on the day we got promoted against Dagenham so I’d like to think he had gained at least some emotional attachment because of that. Never actually had an interview or seen a lot of him at the mem though, it’s clear to see that owning BRFC is Wael’s thing.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 30, 2018 20:29:22 GMT
What's changed? Confirmation the ALQ's won't give DC a penny to bring in any players, there seems little chance of anything happening at the colony anytime soon/we have to come up with something within 12 months. DC doesn't seem to be getting on that well with the owners. Fair enough Topper maybe I missed some of it but I didn’t hear DC say he doesn’t get on with the owners or hear him say he had no money to spend. Not no money but no extra money from the owners, it'll be interesting to see what gets to spend this week as I doubt it'll go down to well if he does get a fair chunk of the Harrison money to spend on strikers. Basically saying the owners need to pull their fingers out re the training ground doesn't give the impression he's getting on great with them.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 30, 2018 21:24:59 GMT
I’m a happy clapper but an update is well due on what is going on with our facilities. It’s not acceptable to not be keeping our most prized asset in the loop with developments in this front.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 30, 2018 21:27:15 GMT
So where is Knowall when you need him with his "news of something great that we will all be happy about". Perhaps he should ring DC and let him in on it because even he hasn't the foggiest.
Its an absolute joke.
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 30, 2018 21:32:39 GMT
I didn't hear the forum tonight so I can't comment on how upbeat or otherwise DC sounded but he's not exactly what you'd call a minstrel of mirth most of the time.
A genuine question, if we do get the two strikers in and they are decent quality, what would people think of our squad?
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 30, 2018 21:34:10 GMT
Can someone write what DC just said. Was very interesting. Lower half budget again. When asked how he got on with owners he said Wael is very pleasant to deal with... (came across as a dig as Hani to me but could be wrong) Also said we needed the infrastructure changed 3 years ago, you can put him on repeat as still saying it now. We have fans and a manager who want championship football but not the facilities. Sounded frustrated. To be fair he did also say that he did at times enjoy working for club that doesn't have it easy (paraphrasing). That must go a long way to explain why he hasn't left yet. Yes, he was frustrated but I got the impression that he also really enjoys it and knows the limits he works within. I didn’t get the feeling that he was p***** o** with anything and he’s obviously developed a good sense of humour in dealing with it. And when the football starts he’ll be ok. He was esp frustrated at trying to answer the same old questions when he’s got nothing new to say. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 21:41:47 GMT
I didn't hear the forum tonight so I can't comment on how upbeat or otherwise DC sounded but he's not exactly what you'd call a minstrel of mirth most of the time. A genuine question, if we do get the two strikers in and they are decent quality, what would people think of our squad? Good question. In my opinion it's improved since last season in the midfield and wide areas. Defensively we are little different other than an unknown quantity in THD at left back in for a reliable full back in Lee Brown, although the signing of Upson particularly should help protect the back five a bit more. We didn't just concede from crosses last year, there were also a number of occasions where goals came fron players running through the middle. I think we are those two decent strikers short of being a decent side that can comfortably finish mid table or possibly flirt with the top six.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 30, 2018 21:47:38 GMT
If I was Wael listening to that I would find it hard to not cringe.
Our own manager sounded as if he had no idea what was going on with any of the big projects. And had little confidence. Saying things like "We all know..." asking people to "pull their finger out".
It's wasn't a good advertisement for the board and I would hope this would fire them up a bit.
4 days away from the start of the season, the board will have to come out of hiding soon.
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Post by yatetown85 on Jul 30, 2018 22:14:08 GMT
QUICK, HIT THE MELTDOWN BUTTON!!!!!!!
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 30, 2018 22:18:09 GMT
I was there tonight and my take is that DC is getting close to the end of his tether. He was in good humour, but he had the air of someone who's gone past caring what he says. If we don't get off to a good start, or if funds are not made available or there's no positive news on the training ground he'll be off. Just my take on things, but there was a resigned air about him tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 22:18:20 GMT
If I was Wael listening to that I would find it hard to not cringe. Our own manager sounded as if he had no idea what was going on with any of the big projects. And had little confidence. Saying things like "We all know..." asking people to "pull their finger out". It's wasn't a good advertisement for the board and I would hope this would fire them up a bit. 4 days away from the start of the season, the board will have to come out of hiding soon. But doesn't it show how bad communication is that we have to ask the manager about it because the people who do know what is going on are nowhere to be found? I think it is time that Wael took some time out from his busy schedule of being pictured with famous people to speak to Geoff Twentyman and take some questions from fans. He had no problem doing this when the going was good and he was being carried down Gloucester Road. Now times are hard it would be a real show of character if he were to front up.
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Post by socrates on Jul 30, 2018 22:19:56 GMT
I didn't hear the forum tonight so I can't comment on how upbeat or otherwise DC sounded but he's not exactly what you'd call a minstrel of mirth most of the time. A genuine question, if we do get the two strikers in and they are decent quality, what would people think of our squad? If we can replace Ellis and Rory with players of the same quality then top 6 is absolutely reachable because we’ve strengthened our midfield massively I feel. Upsson Rodman and Mathews all look very good signings and hopefully the new left back can perform as well as he has in the past and stay fit. The one thing that I’m worried about is the fact that finding two forwards as good as Ellis and Rory is going to be difficult and we might well end up with a couple who are rubbish and in a relegation fight. Reilly looked ok Saturday but Nichols once again was utter sh**e. The days between now and the window closing will shape our season. Our goals against record wasn’t that bad last time we were relegated but we struggled to score goals and that’s what relegates teams. We’ve seen it before haven’t we.
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