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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 17:23:34 GMT
ALQs, should bury their heads in the sand because we aint getting any money or support from them. Are they friends of PANTSDOWN ? So who paid for the following then...? Relaid pitch x 2 Improved matchday facilities Improved club shop Darrell's contract Incoming players Improved coaching staff More professional structure Etc
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 31, 2018 17:26:07 GMT
I reckon they've got about half a bad season before their financial strategy starts to backfire and attendances drop. Hopefully they have invested wisely in infrastructure but not at the expense of a poor playing side and the effect that could have in crippling revenue streams. I don't really know what I'm on about but I bet it will be harder to control losses with lower attendances, especially with the new staff and salaries, facilities etc.
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Post by dickiedamsell on Jul 31, 2018 17:29:44 GMT
agreed
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 31, 2018 17:30:29 GMT
The position is that the ALQs never said that they were going to spend large sums on players, Lansdown on the other hand, did. Not sure I’ve ever read or heard Lansdown state he / City were going to spend large sums on players In fact, I think City’s record signing is £5m. Pretty small amount in this day For Championship players Honest question , no malice intended , so please don’t take it the wrong way and apologies if you aren’t..... Are you a city supporter ? Only asking as I’ve had a look at some of your past posts and there does seem to be quite a bit of reference to them. Again not trying to cause an argument as I couldn’t care if you are or not.
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Post by cj on Jul 31, 2018 17:37:01 GMT
ALQs, should bury their heads in the sand because we aint getting any money or support from them. Are they friends of PANTSDOWN ? So who paid for the following then...? Relaid pitch x 2 Improved matchday facilities Improved club shop Darrell's contract Incoming players Improved coaching staff More professional structure Etc The ALQ's did. But then they got their money back by selling Taylor, Bodin, Gaffney and Harrison......
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 31, 2018 17:37:46 GMT
ALQs, should bury their heads in the sand because we aint getting any money or support from them. Are they friends of PANTSDOWN ? So who paid for the following then...?Relaid pitch x 2 Improved matchday facilities Improved club shop Darrell's contract Incoming players Improved coaching staff More professional structure Etc You an anyone who attends matches, purchases merchandise/food/drinks did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 17:41:58 GMT
ALQs, should bury their heads in the sand because we aint getting any money or support from them. Are they friends of PANTSDOWN ? So who paid for the following then...? US FANS over the last 50 years plus we been here and still will be when they are gone. Relaid pitch x 2 = should’ve got it right first time YES very professional? Improved matchday facilities = Like what higher prices,longer ques,etc Improved club shop,= Have you been in the shop yet? Darrell's contracts= Do you expect DC to work for nothing Incoming players= paid for by out going transfers Improved coaching staff= Please explain we still concede heavily and don’t score More professional structure = They never tell us anything communication nonexistent Etc = = ?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jul 31, 2018 17:43:02 GMT
So who paid for the following then...? Relaid pitch x 2 Improved matchday facilities Improved club shop Darrell's contract Incoming players Improved coaching staff More professional structure Etc The ALQ's did. But then they got their money back by selling Taylor, Bodin, Gaffney and Harrison......
We also paid fees for Holmes-Dennis, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, Partington, Burn since they’ve been here. Most of which we don’t actually know how much we paid.
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Post by cj on Jul 31, 2018 17:45:09 GMT
The ALQ's did. But then they got their money back by selling Taylor, Bodin, Gaffney and Harrison......
We also paid fees for Holmes-Dennis, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, Partington, Burn since they’ve been here. Most of which we don’t actually know how much we paid. I think they would be in the 'incoming players' section
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Post by dickiedamsell on Jul 31, 2018 17:48:40 GMT
Why waste money on relaying the pitch twice when once should be enough. Players in, where are they. Management maybe,wait and see. Facilities paid for itself in more expensive prices. Including tents. As for coaching staff more drivers needed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2018 17:49:44 GMT
The ALQ's did. But then they got their money back by selling Taylor, Bodin, Gaffney and Harrison......
We also paid fees for Holmes-Dennis, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, Partington, Burn since they’ve been here. Most of which we don’t actually know how much we paid. DC answered that question twice in recent weeks, the transfer money is only coming from income not "donations" from the owners, so they will have been paid for by the Chelsea fixture and Taylor & Bodin's transfer fees along with whatever we've got for the Academy players and season ticket/match days sales etc. I assume the ALQ's are basically just servicing the debt/loan?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:05:03 GMT
So who paid for the following then...? US FANS over the last 50 years plus we been here and still will be when they are gone. Relaid pitch x 2 = should’ve got it right first time YES very professional? Improved matchday facilities = Like what higher prices,longer ques,etc Improved club shop,= Have you been in the shop yet? Darrell's contracts= Do you expect DC to work for nothing Incoming players= paid for by out going transfers Improved coaching staff= Please explain we still concede heavily and don’t score More professional structure = They never tell us anything communication nonexistent Etc = = ? Relaid pitch: I'm no groundsman so can't comment on what was done right or wrong and where the fault lay. Could it habe been prevented by the Al Qadi's? I have no idea. Improved matchday facilities: I was referring to an improved bar (apparently, I don't use it), seats that will shortly be installed. Club shop: Yes, I've been in there and it's excellent. To my shame (don't tell anyone!), I had to visit City's recently to buy someone a birthday present and I can confirm ours is every bit as good as theirs. DC: of course not, but he us our prize asset and I suspect we wouldn't have him without the Al-Qadi's. Incoming players: sales have helped for sure, but we still have a deficit each year. Coaching: I was referring to the additional numbers involved, that presumably Darrell wanted. Plus, it was proved in another thread that we don't concede heavily and from memory our goalscoring record was top 6 or 7 last season. Please don't base stats on a pre-season friendly where admittedly we were short in these areas. Professional structure: I was referring to the likes of Tom Gorringe, who I feel is introducing a more professional feel to the club. Would also cite a Head of Recruitment as a good thing, but again it costs money. Communication isn't a big issue for me although I appreciate I appear to be in a dwindling minority here. My concerns for the club relate to the lack of progress with the training ground, rather than the lack of communication about it - if nothing's happening then there's nothing to communicate. My points are all in response to the assertion that the Al Qadi's do not support us. Might I ask that if they went, who would support us?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 31, 2018 18:10:02 GMT
Don't know if this has been said already, as I have not been through all the pages. But him saying they both wanted over £750,000, which ruled us out. Does that mean he has the £750,000 from the sale of Ellis to reinvest? If he can find someone. If that's what he said, that's what it sounds like. One of those that could be read either way I guess. I read it as DC saying a figure that is well over our budget. Would be astounded if he has enough to break our transfer record, never mind the proceeds from the Ellis sale. Why would he not just say it was out of our price range though? Rather than quote what we received for Ellis?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:14:35 GMT
One of those that could be read either way I guess. I read it as DC saying a figure that is well over our budget. Would be astounded if he has enough to break our transfer record, never mind the proceeds from the Ellis sale. Why would he not just say it was out of our price range though? Rather than quote what we received for Ellis? No idea. Maybe we were quoted £800k by both clubs. That would be "over £750k". You may well be right. As I say, could be read both ways. Bear in mind though that it's not a prepared statement, just a verbal comment (that has been reproduced in this thread) and therefore little or no thought will have gone into how it might be taken.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:19:42 GMT
Relaid pitch: I'm no groundsman so can't comment on what was done right or wrong and where the fault lay. Could it habe been prevented by the Al Qadi's? I have no idea. Improved matchday facilities: I was referring to an improved bar (apparently, I don't use it), seats that will shortly be installed. Club shop: Yes, I've been in there and it's excellent. To my shame (don't tell anyone!), I had to visit City's recently to buy someone a birthday present and I can confirm ours is every bit as good as theirs. DC: of course not, but he us our prize asset and I suspect we wouldn't have him without the Al-Qadi's. Incoming players: sales have helped for sure, but we still have a deficit each year. Coaching: I was referring to the additional numbers involved, that presumably Darrell wanted. Plus, it was proved in another thread that we don't concede heavily and from memory our goalscoring record was top 6 or 7 last season. Please don't base stats on a pre-season friendly where admittedly we were short in these areas. Professional structure: I was referring to the likes of Tom Gorringe, who I feel is introducing a more professional feel to the club. Would also cite a Head of Recruitment as a good thing, but again it costs money. Communication isn't a big issue for me although I appreciate I appear to be in a dwindling minority here. My concerns for the club relate to the lack of progress with the training ground, rather than the lack of communication about it - if nothing's happening then there's nothing to communicate. My points are all in response to the assertion that the Al Qadi's do not support us. Might I ask that if they went, who would support us? Well ward and Higgs give DC the chance if they didn’t do you think DC would be here now? Higgs sold out too wael & co,so who knows someone might takeover you never know until the clubs up for grabs.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 31, 2018 18:19:52 GMT
Relaid pitch: I'm no groundsman so can't comment on what was done right or wrong and where the fault lay. Could it habe been prevented by the Al Qadi's? I have no idea. Improved matchday facilities: I was referring to an improved bar (apparently, I don't use it), seats that will shortly be installed. Club shop: Yes, I've been in there and it's excellent. To my shame (don't tell anyone!), I had to visit City's recently to buy someone a birthday present and I can confirm ours is every bit as good as theirs. DC: of course not, but he us our prize asset and I suspect we wouldn't have him without the Al-Qadi's. Incoming players: sales have helped for sure, but we still have a deficit each year. Coaching: I was referring to the additional numbers involved, that presumably Darrell wanted. Plus, it was proved in another thread that we don't concede heavily and from memory our goalscoring record was top 6 or 7 last season. Please don't base stats on a pre-season friendly where admittedly we were short in these areas. Professional structure: I was referring to the likes of Tom Gorringe, who I feel is introducing a more professional feel to the club. Would also cite a Head of Recruitment as a good thing, but again it costs money. Communication isn't a big issue for me although I appreciate I appear to be in a dwindling minority here. My concerns for the club relate to the lack of progress with the training ground, rather than the lack of communication about it - if nothing's happening then there's nothing to communicate. My points are all in response to the assertion that the Al Qadi's do not support us. Might I ask that if they went, who would support us?With total respect . . . . .Same ones as always pal - th supporters (th clues in th name).
Using yer argument most of our previous board members have kept th club afloat, most of which eventually got all their money back as one day th Al-Qadi's might.
Supporters however through good times an bad spend thousands supporting their clubs an will never see a dime back. So, who really keeps clubs afloat?
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Post by neighbour on Jul 31, 2018 18:24:59 GMT
Not sure I’ve ever read or heard Lansdown state he / City were going to spend large sums on players In fact, I think City’s record signing is £5m. Pretty small amount in this day For Championship players Honest question , no malice intended , so please don’t take it the wrong way and apologies if you aren’t..... Are you a city supporter ? Only asking as I’ve had a look at some of your past posts and there does seem to be quite a bit of reference to them. Again not trying to cause an argument as I couldn’t care if you are or not. I am indeed. Not here for a wind up just to join in the odd discussion now and again
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:29:33 GMT
Relaid pitch: I'm no groundsman so can't comment on what was done right or wrong and where the fault lay. Could it habe been prevented by the Al Qadi's? I have no idea. Improved matchday facilities: I was referring to an improved bar (apparently, I don't use it), seats that will shortly be installed. Club shop: Yes, I've been in there and it's excellent. To my shame (don't tell anyone!), I had to visit City's recently to buy someone a birthday present and I can confirm ours is every bit as good as theirs. DC: of course not, but he us our prize asset and I suspect we wouldn't have him without the Al-Qadi's. Incoming players: sales have helped for sure, but we still have a deficit each year. Coaching: I was referring to the additional numbers involved, that presumably Darrell wanted. Plus, it was proved in another thread that we don't concede heavily and from memory our goalscoring record was top 6 or 7 last season. Please don't base stats on a pre-season friendly where admittedly we were short in these areas. Professional structure: I was referring to the likes of Tom Gorringe, who I feel is introducing a more professional feel to the club. Would also cite a Head of Recruitment as a good thing, but again it costs money. Communication isn't a big issue for me although I appreciate I appear to be in a dwindling minority here. My concerns for the club relate to the lack of progress with the training ground, rather than the lack of communication about it - if nothing's happening then there's nothing to communicate. My points are all in response to the assertion that the Al Qadi's do not support us. Might I ask that if they went, who would support us?With total respect . . . . .Same ones as always pal - th supporters (th clues in th name).
Using yer argument most of our previous board members have kept th club afloat, most of which eventually got all their money back as one day th Al-Qadi's might.
Supporters however through good times an bad spend thousands supporting their clubs an will never see a dime back. So, who really keeps clubs afloat?
I take your point that we will be here long after they've gone and that to an extent, we as supporters keep the club afloat. However, unless any of us are particularly loaded, I don't think we can keep the club at the level it currently stands without considerable investment. I may be right about the points further up the thread re who pays for what. I may be wrong about them. The truth is probably somewhere in between. Whatever, I am just getting fed up reading hysterical statements that the Al Qadis do not do anything to support us. I think next year I will take a break from this forum between May and August.
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Post by pirate on Jul 31, 2018 18:29:36 GMT
Hopefully two signings today to replace Ellis in an email from Steve Hamer today. Must have been "obstacles placed in the way" as I can't see any announcement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 18:30:35 GMT
Honest question , no malice intended , so please don’t take it the wrong way and apologies if you aren’t..... Are you a city supporter ? Only asking as I’ve had a look at some of your past posts and there does seem to be quite a bit of reference to them. Again not trying to cause an argument as I couldn’t care if you are or not. I am indeed. Not here for a wind up just to join in the odd discussion now and again Welcome. Good to get a different perspective on our club.
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