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Post by pirate on Aug 12, 2018 21:10:49 GMT
Or play him in central midfield where he got 12 goals and 8 assists last season. If we are desperate to fit him and Lines in the same team it would have to be a midfield 3. Most of those 12 goals and 8 assists came from advanced areas of the pitch where he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well. Playing him alongside Payne would allow him to forget his defensive duties and focus on what he does best. For me that has always been the far more sensible place to try Sercombe out rather than on the wing where he struggles. The reason we should keep him in the position where got his goals/assists last season is exactly that, because "he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well." Don't fix something that isn't broken. He is a central midfielder and that is where he should stay.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2018 21:28:07 GMT
Most of those 12 goals and 8 assists came from advanced areas of the pitch where he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well. Playing him alongside Payne would allow him to forget his defensive duties and focus on what he does best. For me that has always been the far more sensible place to try Sercombe out rather than on the wing where he struggles. The reason we should keep him in the position where got his goals/assists last season is exactly that, because "he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well." Don't fix something that isn't broken. He is a central midfielder and that is where he should stay. The problem then is that the CM has no bite! Why do Rovers have such problems bringing in DCM.
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Post by james246 on Aug 12, 2018 21:28:39 GMT
For me it has to be 4-4-2 Payne and Reilly up front (a combination that spells goals), I also think it mandatory that Sercs plays a central role which means a defensively minded player should be alongside him (Ed Upson)
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Post by axegas on Aug 12, 2018 21:30:43 GMT
The reason we should keep him in the position where got his goals/assists last season is exactly that, because "he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well." Don't fix something that isn't broken. He is a central midfielder and that is where he should stay. The problem then is that the CM has no bite! Why do Rovers have such problems bringing in DCM. I don’t think you’ve seen enough of Upson to say that. He had a poor game yesterday but will come good in time as his performances in pre season and Peterborough suggest.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 12, 2018 21:39:47 GMT
Lines and Sercombe would be in my team too and I agree both have to play central.
I'm yet to be convinced by Upson. He was shocking on Saturday both with and without the ball and doesn't cover half the ground someone like Sinclair does. Therefore, despite his limitations, I'd go with Sinclair alongside Lines and Sercombe in a midfield 3. With Sinclair injured I'd have to go with O.Clarke as at least he can tackle.
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Post by pirate on Aug 12, 2018 21:41:53 GMT
The reason we should keep him in the position where got his goals/assists last season is exactly that, because "he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well." Don't fix something that isn't broken. He is a central midfielder and that is where he should stay. The problem then is that the CM has no bite! Why do Rovers have such problems bringing in DCM. I think Upson was brought in with an eye on him doing that CDM role, but I don't see him as an out and out CDM, he's more of an all rounder. I don't know why we didn't go for someone like Rohan Ince (maybe DC doesn't rate him?), or if we were being really ambitious someone like Youssouf Mulumbu. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/youssouf-mulumbu/profil/spieler/45272www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rohan-ince/profil/spieler/141568
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 22:53:08 GMT
Or play him in central midfield where he got 12 goals and 8 assists last season. If we are desperate to fit him and Lines in the same team it would have to be a midfield 3. Most of those 12 goals and 8 assists came from advanced areas of the pitch where he likes to time his runs into the box impeccably and finish well. Playing him alongside Payne would allow him to forget his defensive duties and focus on what he does best. For me that has always been the far more sensible place to try Sercombe out rather than on the wing where he struggles. We have 4 strikers so why on earth would anyone want to play sercombe anywhere other than the position hes already proved himself to be effective in? More bonkers than the loony saying play broadbent up front!
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Post by simon1883 on Aug 13, 2018 6:42:32 GMT
All this goes away when we play full backs capable of overlapping and getting crosses in.... Perhaps that is where we have fallen short in the transfer window? TC and JC are just not going to do this for a whole game. Perhaps not replacing Lee Brown is our biggest short coming.....
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 13, 2018 7:04:27 GMT
with everyone fit, my first choice lineup would be:
___________Slocombe Partington_Lockyer_Broadbent_THD __________Upson__Lines ___Rodman__Sercombe__Bennett _____________Payne
Although against weaker opposition I’d go 4-4-2 and partner Payne with one of the other strikers.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 13, 2018 7:13:50 GMT
with everyone fit, my first choice lineup would be: ___________Slocombe Partington_Lockyer_Broadbent_THD __________Upson__Lines ___Rodman__Sercombe__Bennett _____________Payne Although against weaker opposition I’d go 4-4-2 and partner Payne with one of the other strikers. that or a more 4-3-3 with those players seems like the obvious formation(s) to utilise. Saturday looked more like 4-1-3-1-1 and over complicated
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 13, 2018 9:09:05 GMT
with everyone fit, my first choice lineup would be: ___________Slocombe Partington_Lockyer_Broadbent_THD __________Upson__Lines ___Rodman__Sercombe__Bennett _____________Payne Although against weaker opposition I’d go 4-4-2 and partner Payne with one of the other strikers. Exactly the same for me although I wouldn't be adverse to seeing Leadbitter in for Partington. At least we actually have a squad to chose from and hopefully a strong bench as you would have to pick 7 subs from Smith, J Clarke, Craig, Leadbitter, Sinclair, O Clarke, Mensah, Nichols, Reilly and Jakubiak as well as youngsters like Kelly and Russe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:23:33 GMT
with everyone fit, my first choice lineup would be: ___________Slocombe Partington_Lockyer_Broadbent_THD __________Upson__Lines ___Rodman__Sercombe__Bennett _____________Payne Although against weaker opposition I’d go 4-4-2 and partner Payne with one of the other strikers. The same as my suggestion although I prefer Smith to Slocombe but not much to separate them tbh. This isn't a totally different role than what Sercombe has played in the past - it just allows us to get him into to the areas where he is most dangerous and have a little less defensive responsibility - defending being his main weakness.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2018 19:39:50 GMT
I think you're right about looking to get both Lines and Sercs into the same team. Our squad strength is in midfield and I would consider the 4-5-1 system but get Sercs into the middle rather than Bennett. Although Bennett likes to come inside he is better suited to a wide role than Sercs. If everyone is fit I'd go Smith in goal, Holmes-Dennis and Partington as full backs with Locks and Broadbent in the middle. Bennett and Rodman out wide with Lines and Upson in the middle with Sercs playing centrally but advanced of the other two and therefore giving support to Payne up front. Much as I see it. UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Aug 13, 2018 22:52:21 GMT
I just really hope DC doesn't put Craig as LB again, he was absolutely disastrous in that position on Saturday!
I get the impression he is undroppable as far as DC is concerned so if he's going to play it should be as CB, if THD is still not fit enough to play then Kelly should come in as LB.
I would like to see Leads come in as RB as well, is not that I don't rate JC, I just think we should be making use of Danny's pace down the wing at home.
So for me the team would start as:
-----------------Slocombe----------------
Leads-------Locks--------Craig------Kelly
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Rodman----------------------------Bennett
-----------------Sercombe----------------
---------Payne-------------Reilly--------
With Nichols or perhaps Jakub coming on for Reilly.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 14, 2018 7:41:44 GMT
I'd be licking my lips at facing that midfield! Not sure who will be doing the crunching tackles there! It's an interesting dilemma for all teams I guess the balance of the middle, in my opinion Upson or Sincs will play in tighter away games, and lines will be on the bench.
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