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Post by stevek192 on Aug 15, 2018 14:49:08 GMT
Craid definitely improved the defence and is a leader unlike Lockyer. As regards defenders DC has over a period of time acquired too many players who are not League 1 top half players and have all been acquired from lower standard and now we are supposedly going for Top 5 we are left with a lot of plain average full backs,midfielders and centre backs that really are not good enough. Leadbitter, James Clarke, Partington, Broadbent, Ollie Clarke, Sam Matthews all fall within this Category.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 15, 2018 15:00:20 GMT
Craid definitely improved the defence and is a leader unlike Lockyer. As regards defenders DC has over a period of time acquired too many players who are not League 1 top half players and have all been acquired from lower standard and now we are supposedly going for Top 5 we are left with a lot of plain average full backs,midfielders and centre backs that really are not good enough. Leadbitter, James Clarke, Partington, Broadbent, Ollie Clarke, Sam Matthews all fall within this Category. Not sure I agree with you on all those players but you obviously have your own opinion of them so fair enough. However, I really don't understand how you can say that about Matthews when he's only made one start and two short cameo appearances off the bench for us. Give the lad a chance.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2018 15:11:56 GMT
Craid definitely improved the defence and is a leader unlike Lockyer. As regards defenders DC has over a period of time acquired too many players who are not League 1 top half players and have all been acquired from lower standard and now we are supposedly going for Top 5 we are left with a lot of plain average full backs,midfielders and centre backs that really are not good enough. Leadbitter, James Clarke, Partington, Broadbent, Ollie Clarke, Sam Matthews all fall within this Category. A bit early to right off SM after a couple of games, however, he was signed from Bournmouth so how does that make him acquired from lower standard? Regardless I doubt Leicester complain because Vardy was acquired from a lower standard! Plus DC could have released Leads, JC & OC this summer if he didn't feel they were good enough so we're not really just left with them as DC must be content they are good enough for the salary we can afford to pay. As far as TC given Sweeney seemed to have lost interest, TB still learning in the game probably any average CBwould have improved the defence unfortunately he hasn't improved it enough and we're probably stuck with him now until at least January if not next summer.
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Post by pirate on Aug 15, 2018 15:21:52 GMT
Craid definitely improved the defence and is a leader unlike Lockyer. As regards defenders DC has over a period of time acquired too many players who are not League 1 top half players and have all been acquired from lower standard and now we are supposedly going for Top 5 we are left with a lot of plain average full backs,midfielders and centre backs that really are not good enough. Leadbitter, James Clarke, Partington, Broadbent, Ollie Clarke, Sam Matthews all fall within this Category. Sam Matthews? He's 21-years-old and made 2 sub apps and 1 start and looked good in all of them. Also, you do realise the best players in the club's history were actually "acquired from lower standard", don't you?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 15, 2018 15:32:26 GMT
Craid definitely improved the defence and is a leader unlike Lockyer. As regards defenders DC has over a period of time acquired too many players who are not League 1 top half players and have all been acquired from lower standard and now we are supposedly going for Top 5 we are left with a lot of plain average full backs,midfielders and centre backs that really are not good enough. Leadbitter, James Clarke, Partington, Broadbent, Ollie Clarke, Sam Matthews all fall within this Category. Respect your opinion, but I've seen no evidence on the field that Craig is a leader.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 15, 2018 15:46:26 GMT
Sam Matthews is ,I agree one who could prove me wrong. I very much hope so. I feel that if DC was serious about a Top Six finish then he should have released OC,DL and JC in the summer however what we don't know is whether he would have been allowed to replace them. He may well have thought "better the devil I know" than what Wael will give me to replace them.
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Post by glengas on Aug 15, 2018 15:49:01 GMT
Be problem for me is Craig can look fine for 95% of the game, but I always worry that he is going to get out jumped by a big striker at any moment. Guess the test will come again on Saturday. Another worry is we have lost Harrison who defended corners superbly last season.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 15, 2018 16:01:40 GMT
Be problem for me is Craig can look fine for 95% of the game, but I always worry that he is going to get out jumped by a big striker at any moment. Guess the test will come again on Saturday. Another worry is we have lost Harrison who defended corners superbly last season. The loss of Ellis's all round work rate and defensive work is a key concern. As I and others posted previously, the recruitment of a striker or two to replace Ellis was vital, but we also could clearly see we need someone to command the defence. Craig seemed to do it for a while after his arrival last season, but he isn't doing it now. We must find a Sweeney (the one that arrived the first time) or similar to play alongside Lockyer and/or Broadbent - they both need the organiser to help them, as McChrystal did in the Conference and first season back in the league.
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Post by pirate on Aug 15, 2018 16:25:28 GMT
Be problem for me is Craig can look fine for 95% of the game, but I always worry that he is going to get out jumped by a big striker at any moment. Guess the test will come again on Saturday. Another worry is we have lost Harrison who defended corners superbly last season. we also could clearly see we need someone to command the defence. Craig seemed to do it for a while after his arrival last season, but he isn't doing it now. We must find a Sweeney (the one that arrived the first time) or similar to play alongside Lockyer and/or Broadbent - they both need the organiser to help them, as McChrystal did in the Conference and first season back in the league.
Someone like the free agent Matt Mills who has captained Leicester, Bolton and Nottingham Forest?
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 15, 2018 16:25:46 GMT
I wouldn’t mind Omar Beckles from Shrews. Good commanding centre half and good on the ball too.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 15, 2018 16:33:42 GMT
we also could clearly see we need someone to command the defence. Craig seemed to do it for a while after his arrival last season, but he isn't doing it now. We must find a Sweeney (the one that arrived the first time) or similar to play alongside Lockyer and/or Broadbent - they both need the organiser to help them, as McChrystal did in the Conference and first season back in the league.
Someone like the free agent Matt Mills who has captained Leicester, Bolton and Nottingham Forest? If he is a free agent then why not. Give him a trial, pay as you play period maybe? As the transfer window is closed then it has to free agents or loans now - so that would rule out Beckles.
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Post by axegas on Aug 15, 2018 16:39:23 GMT
Maybe a left back on loan but we should on the most part be fine for fullbacks considering we have Holmes-Dennis and Partington to come back shortly, having Clarke and Leadbitter playing there isn’t too bad in the meanwhile. Main issue there is that Holmes-Dennis is coming back from a long-term injury and Leadbitter & Partington can’t walk their dogs without pulling a muscle. I think Partington fractured his ankle in April which is why he is still out injured, can’t recall him being particularly injury prone before that. Agree about THD and Leadbitter though, both could become real assets for us this year so it’s important we get them up to speed quick.
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 15, 2018 17:33:36 GMT
...willl we have to watch the opposition score after easily beating Craig in the air before DC realises that Lockyer-Craig isn’t an effective partnership? For me, they’re far too similar to play together. Both fairly short (for CBs), both slow, both have poor distribution, and both would be far better playing alongside a big, aggressive, dominant CB. Apologies for having a moan after a win, but we conceded a tonne of headers last season because of this CB partnership and we’ve already conceded three in the first three games this season. IMO this is going to hurt us time, and time, and time again until we drop one of them (Craig, for me) and start playing Broadbent/Rollin (when fit)/loan CB next to Lockyer as our first choice CB partnership. Am I being too harsh? It’s obvious to everyone...and the goals conceded speaks the truth
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 15, 2018 17:34:06 GMT
we also could clearly see we need someone to command the defence. Craig seemed to do it for a while after his arrival last season, but he isn't doing it now. We must find a Sweeney (the one that arrived the first time) or similar to play alongside Lockyer and/or Broadbent - they both need the organiser to help them, as McChrystal did in the Conference and first season back in the league.
Someone like the free agent Matt Mills who has captained Leicester, Bolton and Nottingham Forest? Good shout that I think, providing he hasn't lost too much pace at 32.
Vastly experienced and if he captained the teams you mention must have good leadership skills. Also, at 1.91m he should win his fair share of headers.
I see he was born in Swindon so might still have family in the area as well.
Sign him up pirate.
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 15, 2018 17:38:33 GMT
Everyone including dc keeps banging on about the crosses coming in...which to is nonsense...I’m sorry but a league one centre back and keeper should be able to cope with that...teams are going to get crosses in like we get lots of crosses in the box but it how you deal with it is the crucial issue... If you watch any football crosses are delivered into the box but I find it’s dc blaming others when it’s our centre backs and keeper(smith) That can’t deal with it consistently!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 15, 2018 17:55:07 GMT
Someone like the free agent Matt Mills who has captained Leicester, Bolton and Nottingham Forest? If he is a free agent then why not. Give him a trial, pay as you play period maybe? As the transfer window is closed then it has to free agents or loans now - so that would rule out Beckles.
Mills' recent CV hardly suggests he's any better than TC? On 31 January 2018, Mills signed with Barnsley for the remainder of the season. Three days later, he made his debut in a 1–0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers. He was released by Barnsley at the end of the 2017–18 season (after making just 3 further appearances)
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 15, 2018 18:07:58 GMT
If he is a free agent then why not. Give him a trial, pay as you play period maybe? As the transfer window is closed then it has to free agents or loans now - so that would rule out Beckles.
Mills' recent CV hardly suggests he's any better than TC? On 31 January 2018, Mills signed with Barnsley for the remainder of the season. Three days later, he made his debut in a 1–0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers. He was released by Barnsley at the end of the 2017–18 season (after making just 3 further appearances) I read that on Wikipedia too. That's why I suggested a trial and pay per play deal rather than anything more permanent, at least at first. He may not want to come, or be right for us, but we've got to find someone
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Post by pirate on Aug 15, 2018 18:26:12 GMT
Mills' recent CV hardly suggests he's any better than TC? On 31 January 2018, Mills signed with Barnsley for the remainder of the season. Three days later, he made his debut in a 1–0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers. He was released by Barnsley at the end of the 2017–18 season (after making just 3 further appearances) I read that on Wikipedia too. That's why I suggested a trial and pay per play deal rather than anything more permanent, at least at first. He may not want to come, or be right for us, but we've got to find someone
I'd also suggest this lad is worth a trial too. Good grounding at the likes of Fiorentina, 6ft 2in and seems strong in the air, decent on the ground and physically imposing. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ricardo-bagadur/profil/spieler/291856
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 15, 2018 18:31:05 GMT
If he is a free agent then why not. Give him a trial, pay as you play period maybe? As the transfer window is closed then it has to free agents or loans now - so that would rule out Beckles.
Mills' recent CV hardly suggests he's any better than TC? On 31 January 2018, Mills signed with Barnsley for the remainder of the season. Three days later, he made his debut in a 1–0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers. He was released by Barnsley at the end of the 2017–18 season (after making just 3 further appearances) 3 inches taller which might suggest he's better in the air and a year younger so maybe more left in the tank. Also Barnsley were in the Championship so another level up.
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Post by pirate on Aug 15, 2018 18:33:40 GMT
Mills' recent CV hardly suggests he's any better than TC? On 31 January 2018, Mills signed with Barnsley for the remainder of the season. Three days later, he made his debut in a 1–0 defeat against Queens Park Rangers. He was released by Barnsley at the end of the 2017–18 season (after making just 3 further appearances) 3 inches taller which might suggest he's better in the air and a year younger so maybe more left in the tank. Also Barnsley were in the Championship so another level up. Captaining Forest at the start of last season in the Championship so he has leadership skills too.
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