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Post by buckrippers on Oct 3, 2014 10:50:51 GMT
www.football-league.co.uk/news/article/2014/20141003wycombereprimandrp-1985954.aspxI always felt this was a diversionary tactic used by the board to try to deflect criticism away from them for their poor mismanagement and on to a third party. The trouble is I think it has made us look churlish. We have always been good losers (we've had enough practice) but this thing was a waste of time and energy. Rather than jump into it I feel a few questions asked in the right places might have prevented this embarrassment and saved us a great deal of lawyers fees
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Post by gasincider on Oct 3, 2014 11:16:52 GMT
Retrospect is a wonderful thing eh mate?
They broke the rules and we reported it. Just what did we do wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 11:17:21 GMT
It's hardly surprising that the FL didn't act. They've let other clubs get away with murder over the years. The reprimand does however, suggest they've done something wrong, and therefore it was an issue worth raising - if not by us then somebody else.
Certainly should have been more low key though, too much fuss was made over it at the time. Made us look bitter re: relegation when in fact we did raise a valid point.
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Post by buckrippers on Oct 3, 2014 11:28:32 GMT
You said it better than I did, Gashead. But the fuss was made a. to deflect criticism from the board and b. because board were actually in denial and grasping at straws because they had "no plans for relegation".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 11:44:21 GMT
I think both Buckrippers and Gasincider are both right!
Nothing wrong in reporting a wrong doing but I also feel it was a bit of a red herring too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 11:45:15 GMT
Totally agree, its embarressing
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Post by blackthorngas on Oct 3, 2014 12:01:15 GMT
Totally agree, its embarressing Don't think it's embarrassing. Rules are there for a reason and should be upheld.
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Post by Finnish Gas on Oct 3, 2014 12:10:59 GMT
How much money did we waste by following this route or were our legal representatives on "no win no fee"?
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Post by fanboy on Oct 3, 2014 12:16:14 GMT
It's hardly surprising that the FL didn't act. They've let other clubs get away with murder over the years. The reprimand does however, suggest they've done something wrong, and therefore it was an issue worth raising - if not by us then somebody else. Certainly should have been more low key though, too much fuss was made over it at the time. Made us look bitter re: relegation when in fact we did raise a valid point. If we had done it quietly then no one would have batted an eyelid. It had to be a statement of 'WE WANT TO BE BACK IN THE LEAGUE' to make a point - when realistically no one at the club ever believed that would happen. It was just a strong way of, hopefully, getting some compo out of Wycombe - seems it failed. Anyway, who cares, back to the season at hand.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 12:21:52 GMT
Pointless distraction tactic from the board that we were quite rightly slaughtered for by other clubs. We move on.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Oct 3, 2014 12:32:10 GMT
I am glad an outcome has been reached. Personally, I am not disappointed by the verdict as I wasn't expecting anything to come of it. I found the initial statement released rather desperate and a little cringe worthy, but if the club thought there was wrongdoing on Wycombe's behalf then fair enough. Making it public wasn't necessary though.
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Post by amgas on Oct 3, 2014 12:41:51 GMT
So we were correct that Wycombe had broken the rules, whether playing the offence and therefore the penalty down was an easy option for the FL is open to debate.
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 3, 2014 15:35:17 GMT
Can't see why people are moaning. Someone came to us and said they had broken the rules. What were supposed to say? That's OK we don't mind, we stuck to them but it does not matter that others didn't?? We did the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 15:51:11 GMT
Can't see why people are moaning. Someone came to us and said they had broken the rules. What were supposed to say? That's OK we don't mind, we stuck to them but it does not matter that others didn't?? We did the right thing. Considering we already beat Wycombe away from home, the only thing that might have been different is our home game against them. It wouldn't change the fact that we were absolutely appalling all season, winning only two games away and being beaten on both legs by luminaries such as Accrington Stanley and Dagenham & Redbridge. We deserved to go down. Move on.
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Post by Lambert's Right Boot on Oct 3, 2014 15:51:59 GMT
It's hardly surprising that the FL didn't act. They've let other clubs get away with murder over the years. The reprimand does however, suggest they've done something wrong, and therefore it was an issue worth raising - if not by us then somebody else. Certainly should have been more low key though, too much fuss was made over it at the time. Made us look bitter re: relegation when in fact we did raise a valid point. If we had done it quietly then no one would have batted an eyelid. It had to be a statement of 'WE WANT TO BE BACK IN THE LEAGUE' to make a point - when realistically no one at the club ever believed that would happen. It was just a strong way of, hopefully, getting some compo out of Wycombe - seems it failed. Anyway, who cares, back to the season at hand. This is exactly what it was for me. I wasn't embarrassed we followed through with what seemed like a legitimate complaint. It was making it public that was embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 16:04:46 GMT
The thing is that our board inferred that we had been relegated because Wycombe broke the rules, when we all know we were relegated because we were not good enough and if relegation was not embarrassing enough the board decided to pursue this ludicrous claim.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 16:11:32 GMT
I don't even think the action of releasing a public statement was a huge problem, it was just the manner of it.
There was no way the whole situation could have been explained in a short article on the OS, and so any 'detailed' statement would have only caused confusion. Because many people misunderstood and misinterpreted the statement, it made us look desperate or like we were clutching at straws. A simple, 'we have filed a complaint against Wycombe...' would have sufficed for me.
Of course, many others would have then complained about the club's communication, so it's a lose-lose situation...
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 3, 2014 16:38:01 GMT
How much money did we waste by following this route or were our legal representatives on "no win no fee"? Glad to see you back Finnish. Thought you'd left.
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Post by newmarketgas on Oct 3, 2014 16:46:14 GMT
What else was the League going to say ? they had missed this when going over Wycombes books in the take over ! If they had found in our favour to the letter of the law ie points deducted , they would have looked the idiots for missing it, so they try and deflect this onto us. Total cop out by the League and they need to grow a pair. Any who, that was my post for October. UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2014 17:58:00 GMT
Can't see why people are moaning. Someone came to us and said they had broken the rules. What were supposed to say? That's OK we don't mind, we stuck to them but it does not matter that others didn't?? We did the right thing. Perhaps questioned what a discredited football agent was trying to gain? Then just write a polite letter to the FA asking them to investigate matters if we felt we had a case. Even if we needed to instruct solicitors why did we need to publish the letter in full on the OS?
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