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Post by baggins on Aug 22, 2018 11:13:45 GMT
Why do you say "we" when you know full well you are in a massive minority? Why do people constantly look through rose tinted glasses with dc? Why can’t this be the highest he can take us with our budget? For one he hasn’t managed any higher than this level and only with us...yes he’s a good talker and gives you reassurance things will progress but each season he’s making it up as he goes along with the project thing instead of playing our best players in the right positions and sticking with a winning formula ? br]Dc always says we’re over achieving with the players we have so then why would you expect them to play out of position or in different formations from week to week You get m.o.m one game and dropped the next? The player who’s dropped must be watered off watching the two centre backs conceding goals week in and week out and named captain and never dropped? He’s constantly saying their working on the same problems to why we concede every game (3 years running) and still the same problem? So it’s his coaching or the likes of Lockyer should have been sold and Craig a squad player and two decent centre backs bright in and that can be a threat for set pieces too! All the problems are easy to spot to us and our opposition yet we still say “ in dc we trust”? Agreed, just get rid of him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 11:20:49 GMT
I'm a massive fan of DC and fully back him still but this season he's started to play players out of position for some reason or another, something he never used to do. The main one that sticks out is Sercombe on the right, I have a feeling he's doing this to try and protect the back four by playing Upson and Clarke in the middle. Hopefully he sees this isn't really working and moves Sercombe back into the middle. I think DC really wants to fit Sercs in to his starting line up but doesn't fully trust him to play central in a 4-4-2 formation which is why he start wide and drifts inside. I can understand this and would probably see Sercs' best position being at the point of a midfield three in a 5-3-2/4-5-1 formation - whether that is something DC would consider I don't know. Regardless of where he starts Sercs does seem a bit out of form at the moment. The two chances he missed last night were poor and could obviously have been game changing - it didn't matter what position he was supposed to be playing it was his technique that let him down and not DC's tactics. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 22, 2018 11:32:09 GMT
For me with the players we have, I would play a 4-2-3-1
2 out of Upson, Clarke, Lines and Sinclair with Bennett, Sercombe and Rodman/Nichols in behind Payne.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 22, 2018 11:59:04 GMT
Everybody’s blaming slocombe,Clarke,Craig,Lockyer,lines,Nicholls,Smith,Upson,Leadbitter,Broadbent etc etc nearly all DCs signings. He plays two right sided players on the left,he plays players out of position too accommodate other players,central midfield is overloaded when we needed a left back,a big bully of a centre back both priorities. Now slocombe goes out on loan so he must now be looking for a goalkeeper,he also signed Mensah,Reilly why sign these players and not play them they can’t prove their worth sat on the bench. Another cock up of a preseason it’s all becoming too familiar. In DC we Trust do we ?do you ? ( I hope he gets it right but now beginning to lose faith ) Last night wasn’t a bad performance BUT the problems are still there for all too see until addressed UTG Please DC can Christmas come early and sign that CB and LB 🙏 Clarke prefers the right side, but he is two footed.
Playing a wide player on his wrong foot is hardly unusual
Regarding Mensah and Reilly, do you propose that we only have a squad of 11, or that we try to put out teams with 20 players in them?
We've had a tough start, that's all. We'll be fine.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 22, 2018 12:01:37 GMT
For me with the players we have, I would play a 4-2-3-1 2 out of Upson, Clarke, Lines and Sinclair with Bennett, Sercombe and Rodman/Nichols in behind Payne. But you know what will happen.
Whah! Whah! We can't drop Matthews! Wah Wah! Only one up front at home! Wah! Whaahhhh no width etc etc
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Post by socrates on Aug 22, 2018 12:01:47 GMT
For me with the players we have, I would play a 4-2-3-1 2 out of Upson, Clarke, Lines and Sinclair with Bennett, Sercombe and Rodman/Nichols in behind Payne. Yeah I think that would suit the players we have the best too. Whilst we played well last night imagine if we’d had those players in their best positions . Sercombe needs to be in the middle but not relied on to be defensive as he just can’t do it so having him as our number 10 behind Payne with our more natural wide players out wide seems obvious to me. Then we can have two defensive minded players sitting deeper without having to worry about the Center being too defensive. Then again I’m not a football manager im a Brickie so what do I know ??!! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 22, 2018 12:30:43 GMT
I am a big believer in playing players in their rightful position to a formation that suits their play.
Playing players out of position is ok for a game or 2 if you are injury and suspension ravaged but to continually do it makes no sense in some ways.
JC is a centre back predominantly. He can play FB, but would you have him there every game? No.
Sercs is not a winger, he is best played in the middle. Can he do a job as a RW? Yes, but not game in game out.
OC and Upson are great if you have natural outlets but too similar. Who is best?
It’s all about balance. And we look so imbalanced at times.
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Post by rosssgb on Aug 22, 2018 12:33:21 GMT
For me with the players we have, I would play a 4-2-3-1 2 out of Upson, Clarke, Lines and Sinclair with Bennett, Sercombe and Rodman/Nichols in behind Payne. But you know what will happen.
Whah! Whah! We can't drop Matthews! Wah Wah! Only one up front at home! Wah! Whaahhhh no width etc etc
The one up front at home argument is hilarious, would love to hear their opinions on Man City and Pep’s system |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 22, 2018 13:12:34 GMT
Everybody’s blaming slocombe,Clarke,Craig,Lockyer,lines,Nicholls,Smith,Upson,Leadbitter,Broadbent etc etc nearly all DCs signings. He plays two right sided players on the left,he plays players out of position too accommodate other players,central midfield is overloaded when we needed a left back,a big bully of a centre back both priorities. Now slocombe goes out on loan so he must now be looking for a goalkeeper,he also signed Mensah,Reilly why sign these players and not play them they can’t prove their worth sat on the bench. Another cock up of a preseason it’s all becoming too familiar. In DC we Trust do we ?do you ? ( I hope he gets it right but now beginning to lose faith ) Last night wasn’t a bad performance BUT the problems are still there for all too see until addressed UTG Please DC can Christmas come early and sign that CB and LB 🙏 No we do not trust him he must go Well I didn't see that comming |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 22, 2018 13:14:38 GMT
I am a big believer in playing players in their rightful position to a formation that suits their play. Playing players out of position is ok for a game or 2 if you are injury and suspension ravaged but to continually do it makes no sense in some ways. JC is a centre back predominantly. He can play FB, but would you have him there every game? No. Sercs is not a winger, he is best played in the middle. Can he do a job as a RW? Yes, but not game in game out. OC and Upson are great if you have natural outlets but too similar. Who is best? It’s all about balance. And we look so imbalanced at times. Managed many league one teams have you ? just asking mind |
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 22, 2018 13:33:59 GMT
Why do people constantly look through rose tinted glasses with dc? Why can’t this be the highest he can take us with our budget? For one he hasn’t managed any higher than this level and only with us...yes he’s a good talker and gives you reassurance things will progress but each season he’s making it up as he goes along with the project thing instead of playing our best players in the right positions and sticking with a winning formula ? br]Dc always says we’re over achieving with the players we have so then why would you expect them to play out of position or in different formations from week to week You get m.o.m one game and dropped the next? The player who’s dropped must be watered off watching the two centre backs conceding goals week in and week out and named captain and never dropped? He’s constantly saying their working on the same problems to why we concede every game (3 years running) and still the same problem? So it’s his coaching or the likes of Lockyer should have been sold and Craig a squad player and two decent centre backs bright in and that can be a threat for set pieces too! All the problems are easy to spot to us and our opposition yet we still say “ in dc we trust”? Agreed, just get rid of him. Typical dummy that doesn’t realise what the op was about...let me spell it out for you...I’m saying the original poster has a right to his opinion and he has facts to back that up For example we were bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year and away record speaks for itself!!! Let’s all forget that and just keep saying in dc we trust! It’s like a mantra for certain muppets when they push their head into a bucket of sand... |
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Post by baggins on Aug 22, 2018 13:41:20 GMT
Agreed, just get rid of him. Typical dummy that doesn’t realise what the op was about...let me spell it out for you...I’m saying the original poster has a right to his opinion and he has facts to back that up For example we were bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year and away record speaks for itself!!! Let’s all forget that and just keep saying in dc we trust! It’s like a mantra for certain muppets when they push their head into a bucket of sand... Typical dummy? Mantra? Muppets? Thank you sweetheart. |
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 22, 2018 13:58:57 GMT
Agreed, just get rid of him. Typical dummy that doesn’t realise what the op was about...let me spell it out for you...I’m saying the original poster has a right to his opinion and he has facts to back that up For example we were bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year and away record speaks for itself!!! Let’s all forget that and just keep saying in dc we trust! It’s like a mantra for certain muppets when they push their head into a bucket of sand... Facts!
We conceded 30 goals at home last season. Plymouth, Wimbledon, Milton Keynes and Bury also conceded 30, Oxford conceded 32, Walsall 31, Bradford 32, Oldham 33, Fleetwood 35, Northampton 35.
We were not bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year.
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Post by titchthephot on Aug 22, 2018 14:24:59 GMT
Midlandgas is as accurate in his assessment of DC as Pogba's agent is about Paul Scholes !! I assume the name is a clue where he is from....maybe it's where he should go back to!! And before anyone has a go, yes, we are all entitled to our own opinion ...even if it is totally wrong!!
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 22, 2018 14:26:51 GMT
Typical dummy that doesn’t realise what the op was about...let me spell it out for you...I’m saying the original poster has a right to his opinion and he has facts to back that up For example we were bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year and away record speaks for itself!!! Let’s all forget that and just keep saying in dc we trust! It’s like a mantra for certain muppets when they push their head into a bucket of sand... Facts!
We conceded 30 goals at home last season. Plymouth, Wimbledon, Milton Keynes and Bury also conceded 30, Oxford conceded 32, Walsall 31, Bradford 32, Oldham 33, Fleetwood 35, Northampton 35.
We were not bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year.
As in clean sheets not how many goals.... www.soccerstats.com/trends.asp?league=england3_2018 |
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 22, 2018 14:46:16 GMT
Facts!
We conceded 30 goals at home last season. Plymouth, Wimbledon, Milton Keynes and Bury also conceded 30, Oxford conceded 32, Walsall 31, Bradford 32, Oldham 33, Fleetwood 35, Northampton 35.
We were not bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year.
As in clean sheets not how many goals.... www.soccerstats.com/trends.asp?league=england3_2018Luckily, the league isn't based on how many clean sheets you get at home.
Interesting stat though, only 2 clean sheets at home all season. An issue with concentration? Or just the attacking way that we play? You'd think that if it was a plain poor defence, our total goals conceded would be similarly out of whack.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 14:49:15 GMT
Facts!
We conceded 30 goals at home last season. Plymouth, Wimbledon, Milton Keynes and Bury also conceded 30, Oxford conceded 32, Walsall 31, Bradford 32, Oldham 33, Fleetwood 35, Northampton 35.
We were not bottom of the league for conceding goals at home last year.
As in clean sheets not how many goals.... www.soccerstats.com/trends.asp?league=england3_2018poor recovery |
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Post by lpgas on Aug 22, 2018 14:50:38 GMT
Not gonna lie, I question DC tactically given our two home league showings but do I trust him? Damn right. Back-to-back promotions when we were at our lowest and our highest finish/points tally in years. The bloke has consistently delivered results and we always start slowly. I'm worried but have no doubt he'll sort it out soon enough. There is a difference though. DC has spent most of his career in Div 2 and managerial career, non league and Div 2. Now we are coming up against teams that have more experience in Div 1 and above I am beginning to question his ability. The squad is heavily over loaded with central midfielders; for example, why did he sign Upson? Did we need him? If DC thought yes we do then someone from midfield sure should have been let go? or at least out on loan. Meanwhile we have had a poor defence for the last 3 seasons and imo it needed sorting out before now. Good teams always start at the back as they say. Meanwhile up front I think we were lucky with the last minute signings, however I do think he is playing the wrong 2 upfront |
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Post by lpgas on Aug 22, 2018 14:54:25 GMT
But you know what will happen.
Whah! Whah! We can't drop Matthews! Wah Wah! Only one up front at home! Wah! Whaahhhh no width etc etc
The one up front at home argument is hilarious, would love to hear their opinions on Man City and Pep’s system I think if you have some of the best players in Europe then you can play any system you want |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 22, 2018 16:30:23 GMT
I am a big believer in playing players in their rightful position to a formation that suits their play. Playing players out of position is ok for a game or 2 if you are injury and suspension ravaged but to continually do it makes no sense in some ways. JC is a centre back predominantly. He can play FB, but would you have him there every game? No. Sercs is not a winger, he is best played in the middle. Can he do a job as a RW? Yes, but not game in game out. OC and Upson are great if you have natural outlets but too similar. Who is best? It’s all about balance. And we look so imbalanced at times. Managed many league one teams have you ? just asking mind You don't need to be a plumber to know when one has flooded your bathroom. I'm sure you can do better than that if you disagree with what he said. It's fair to say no one on here is professional football player or manager on here. Should we close the forum? |
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