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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 0:15:25 GMT
Why not so?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 2:08:42 GMT
Well dc is on record saying he likes full backs that can bomb forward.
In a recent interview he praised danny leadbitter for this aspect of his game.
Sit back now while posters slag off danny.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 30, 2018 5:06:12 GMT
I mentioned this on another post yesterday. I think he would be better there than the current right backs we have. You could then play Craig at CB with big CB partner. But, unless we sign another CB this week then there probably isn't much point moving him.
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Aug 30, 2018 5:53:23 GMT
Slightly left field suggestion but I wonder about TL playing a defensive midfield role sat in front of the back four, allowing potentially Lines and (a fit) Sercombe to push forward.
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Post by aforce on Aug 30, 2018 6:22:53 GMT
I have a horrible feeling if we don’t sign a new cb today we will find ourselves bottom 4 by Xmas with a mountain to climb, and it’s surely harder to panic buy in jan as who wants to join a team in a relegation scrap. Prevention better than cure we need a new cb today
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 30, 2018 7:01:20 GMT
I have a horrible feeling if we don’t sign a new cb today we will find ourselves bottom 4 by Xmas with a mountain to climb, and it’s surely harder to panic buy in jan as who wants to join a team in a relegation scrap. Prevention better than cure we need a new cb today Whilst I completely agree, I don’t see us signing anyone else. DC said he hoped to get one more in and he’s done that. Let’s not forget, he’s working with a shoestring budget. Signing a journeyman left back who can’t get in a side in the division below tells us that. |
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Post by mjhgas on Aug 30, 2018 7:24:30 GMT
He's a Welsh international centre back.
I'd suggest that he needs a higher class of partner alongside him rather than one who is slow or inexperienced.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 30, 2018 7:30:17 GMT
With Tom's call up to the Welsh squad, we're going to lose him for the vital Plymouth game if I've read the dates of the welsh matches correctly.
Whatever people think of Tom - and I think he is a good defender, but needs a leader beside him as he has proved he can't do the leader bit - we will be desperately short when he is called away.
We must bring in another Central defender today/tomorrow or, as aforce says, we will be cut adrift before we can do anything about it in the next window.
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Post by darkbluegas on Aug 30, 2018 7:58:39 GMT
I wrote here after QPR that I thought TL did well at right back in the later stages of that game although by then their left winger was tiring.
I think the problems TL has in our side are mental ones. Most of his mistakes come from wondering whether to go with a player or cover another. I imagine with Wales he's more confident of those around him or has clearer instructions from his coach.
I would definitely play Tom there with the less pacy James Clark at CB with either Broadbent or Craig. Kelly at left back. With the state of our defence the least of our problems is full backs bombing on. Although TL is more than capable of getting forward.
When Partington is fit he'd be a good addition to the centre of defence.
In coaching there is a long held thought that full backs should be considered to be played on the wrong side. Left footers on the right. This better counteracts the winger cutting in,meaning they can win a tackle on their correct foot and if successful they've got the ball on their stronger foot. Normally a left footed LB uses his stronger side to usher the RW to the bye line to prevent the cross, something he can do with either foot.
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Post by socrates on Aug 30, 2018 7:59:43 GMT
I have a horrible feeling if we don’t sign a new cb today we will find ourselves bottom 4 by Xmas with a mountain to climb, and it’s surely harder to panic buy in jan as who wants to join a team in a relegation scrap. Prevention better than cure we need a new cb today Whilst I completely agree, I don’t see us signing anyone else. DC said he hoped to get one more in and he’s done that. Let’s not forget, he’s working with a shoestring budget. Signing a journeyman left back who can’t get in a side in the division below tells us that. Maybe it’s a shoe string budget or maybe it’s bigger than last season and he’s used it all up ? I don’t know I don’t think any of us do which is why it’s hard to say whether he’s screwed up the recruitment or been screwed over. |
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2018 8:12:18 GMT
Well dc is on record saying he likes full backs that can bomb forward.In a recent interview he praised danny leadbitter for this aspect of his game. Sit back now while posters slag off danny. Which is ironic given we've spent the season so far with the likes of Craig and Clarke (not through choice) playing LB out of position instead of the natural Kelly who can bomb forward! I'm quietly confident that, when THD is fit and raring to go or if this Martin lad can do the trick, we'll see a much better Rovers. As Harley and the lads mentioned on GasCast (another great episode of the pod, btw..), think DC is playing two CDMs atm 1. two allow our attackers more freedom (might not be working effectively but that's the intention) and 2. because are defence isn't strong enough to cope (again, not working effectively). Can only assume to long term aim will be back four with marauding full-backs, one CDM (Upson, Lines) sitting in front with Sercs and Ollie supporting the front three. Either way, there's been moan after moan on this forum about players playing out of position, so in response to the OP: let's keep our best player (he's a Welsh international centre-back ffs) in his best position and try to find a system/partnership to compliment rather than hinder. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 30, 2018 8:13:39 GMT
I have a horrible feeling if we don’t sign a new cb today we will find ourselves bottom 4 by Xmas with a mountain to climb, and it’s surely harder to panic buy in jan as who wants to join a team in a relegation scrap. Prevention better than cure we need a new cb today We will be bottom 4 on Saturday if we lose and also a possibility if we draw |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 30, 2018 9:17:21 GMT
I think Lockyer played as full back before, from memory most recently maybe the cup game vs Crawley (the tie that was abandoned?) and possible more before that?
I thought he played really well that game, although we now have players who can all fill natural positions.
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Post by darkbluegas on Aug 30, 2018 10:31:58 GMT
Well dc is on record saying he likes full backs that can bomb forward.In a recent interview he praised danny leadbitter for this aspect of his game. Sit back now while posters slag off danny. Which is ironic given we've spent the season so far with the likes of Craig and Clarke (not through choice) playing LB out of position instead of the natural Kelly who can bomb forward! I'm quietly confident that, when THD is fit and raring to go or if this Martin lad can do the trick, we'll see a much better Rovers. As Harley and the lads mentioned on GasCast (another great episode of the pod, btw..), think DC is playing two CDMs atm 1. two allow our attackers more freedom (might not be working effectively but that's the intention) and 2. because are defence isn't strong enough to cope (again, not working effectively). Can only assume to long term aim will be back four with marauding full-backs, one CDM (Upson, Lines) sitting in front with Sercs and Ollie supporting the front three. Either way, there's been moan after moan on this forum about players playing out of position, so in response to the OP: let's keep our best player (he's a Welsh international centre-back ffs) in his best position and try to find a system/partnership to compliment rather than hinder. I still think TL would be a better player at right back. If he was highly rated at a better level than he's currently playing at he would have moved on by now. He is a good footballer but I'm not sure his inclusion in the Wales squad is a particularly high recommendation other than the lack of competition that exists in Welsh football. Steve Yates wasn't tall or commanding at CB but his tactical know how and blistering pace certainly made up for that. I think playing CB as capt in this squad is stunting TL progress and he would be much happier with the FB position. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 12:18:11 GMT
Lockyer played right back for the whole of the conference season.
Posters used to say "hes no right back.he should play centre-back" .
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 30, 2018 13:19:33 GMT
Lockyer played right back for the whole of the conference season. Posters used to say "hes no right back.he should play centre-back" .
Pretty sure he played well at left back as well, maybe that's the Crawley cup game I referred to In my last post? Not a lot we can do about it now anyway if there is no room to bring anyone else in. The only consistently decent looking defender so far (J.Clarke) got toasted in the last game so his confidence wont be high either now. Tough times.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 30, 2018 13:24:19 GMT
With Tom's call up to the Welsh squad, we're going to lose him for the vital Plymouth game if I've read the dates of the welsh matches correctly. Whatever people think of Tom - and I think he is a good defender, but needs a leader beside him as he has proved he can't do the leader bit - we will be desperately short when he is called away. We must bring in another Central defender today/tomorrow or, as aforce says, we will be cut adrift before we can do anything about it in the next window. He needs to be sold for a million. Anyone wonder why he hasn't already? |
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 13:26:00 GMT
Lockyer played right back for the whole of the conference season. Posters used to say "hes no right back.he should play centre-back" .
Pretty sure he played well at left back as well, maybe that's the Crawley cup game I referred to In my last post? Not a lot we can do about it now anyway if there is no room to bring anyone else in. The only consistently decent looking defender so far (J.Clarke) got toasted in the last game so his confidence wont be high either now. Tough times.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 30, 2018 13:26:09 GMT
and we should have got a CB in and let Kelly stay on the left. I cannot see any of our kids getting another chance, DC doesn't trust them unless he has no other option
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Post by pirate on Aug 30, 2018 13:30:33 GMT
The chance to go and get someone like Ryan Inniss on a loan seems too good to turn down. We more than likely won't bring in anyone though, which is very disappointing. In fairness a new CB wasn't even on DC's list of summer recruits. Very strange.
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