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Post by madgas on Sept 3, 2018 17:05:39 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see:
- 20th
- 4 points
- few goals
Equals total disaster.
We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that.
From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches.
- Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins.
- Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed.
- Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty.
- Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners.
- Southend, a dreadful game.
- Shrewsbury, actually did draw.
It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off.
My view is- early days.
Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow.
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Post by madgas on Sept 3, 2018 17:10:34 GMT
Thanks, I’ve edited accordingly. Listed all the matches and failed to count. D’oh! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 17:18:26 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see: - 20th - 4 points - few goals Equals total disaster. We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that. From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches. - Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins. - Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed. - Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty. - Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners. - Southend, a dreadful game. - Shrewsbury, actually did draw. It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off. My view is- early days. Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow. You see it pretty much how I do at the moment. ..... Too many people are jumping to knee jerk reactions in my opinion |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 3, 2018 17:29:08 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see: - 20th - 4 points - few goals Equals total disaster. We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that. From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches. - Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins. - Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed. - Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty. - Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners. - Southend, a dreadful game. - Shrewsbury, actually did draw. It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off. My view is- early days. Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow. You see it pretty much how I do at the moment. ..... Too many people are jumping to knee jerk reactions in my opinion More like too much right hand jerking! |
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 3, 2018 17:36:03 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see: - 20th - 4 points - few goals Equals total disaster. We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that. From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches. - Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins. - Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed. - Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty. - Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners. - Southend, a dreadful game. - Shrewsbury, actually did draw. It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off. My view is- early days. Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow. need a bit more quality not umphh |
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Post by bluestone on Sept 3, 2018 17:47:56 GMT
Seems to me we've been inconsistent with it performances so far, sounds a familiar doesn't it? But I'm certainly not hitting the panic button yet.
I think we've actually got a decent squad when everyone's fit or not serving suspensions.
It seems a number of players are also currently out of form or low on confidence, that's something that can and will change imo.
I look at it like this:
We take last season's squad that achieved a mid table finish. We sell Ellis but bring in Payne, seems a decent replacement. We sell Bodin and bring in Matthews, not a direct replacement by any means but the lad has shown that he has talent and he may be able to fill Billy's boots in time. We sell Gaffers and bring in Reilly / Jakub. We sell Browner and bring in THD, as yet unproven for us but everyone believes he could be one of the best LB's in L1 so who am I to argue. The rest of the squad have more or less remained insitu and certainly been added to in midfield areas.
Based on that logic I think we should be fine for at least another mid table finish if not better.
UTG!
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Sept 3, 2018 17:59:24 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1.
Leads should play R.M.
Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work.
Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs.
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 3, 2018 18:25:12 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. The way he rifled that cross past Bonham reminded me of Byron Anthony at his best, always looked like getting an O.G.  |
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 3, 2018 18:58:06 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. Leads cannot cross the ball though he gets about 20 per cent across, hits first man or puts it behind, he is so overrated, has pace but so has usain Bolt. |
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Post by madgas on Sept 3, 2018 18:59:36 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. I see the Leadbitter as a winger idea. I get it. Seeing him knock outside someone, comfortably get to the ball and hit a cross is appealing. Played a winger, he’d likely get more license to do this. DC (not a knock) generally prefers wingers that like to drift in. The appeal of Leads on the wing would be him playing as an out and out winger. Seems an unlikely request... I would like to see greater commitment to leads. Allow him a bad game or two. Whilst generally, I support the rotation and like Clarke and partington, I think a really at the races Leadbitter is very good league one footballer. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 3, 2018 19:17:22 GMT
I’m not doom and gloom normally but I’m a bit worried.
I buy the logic of this thread, and I’m largely inclined to agree, and I don’t think our entire defence is a write off, but I am worried about goals. We just don’t seem to generate enough genuine chances and when we do, our strikers are far from clinical.
I’d prefer to see us try and cut in more as we’ve been sh** in the air for years. Our players just don’t have the right height and guile to be in the right place at the right time.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 3, 2018 19:25:03 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. Leads cannot cross the ball though he gets about 20 per cent across, hits first man or puts it behind, he is so overrated, has pace but so has usain Bolt. How can he be overrated? All I keep hearing is people slagging him off. I think he's underrated if anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 19:34:27 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see: - 20th - 4 points - few goals Equals total disaster. We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that. From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches. - Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins. - Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed. - Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty. - Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners. - Southend, a dreadful game. - Shrewsbury, actually did draw. It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off. My view is- early days. Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow. You see it pretty much how I do at the moment. ..... Too many people are jumping to knee jerk reactions in my opinion Agree too many reacting to what they see with their own eyes and what they know about the game. We should all just sit tight have no opinion and hope! UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 19:36:34 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. I assume you've seen DL try to cross and head the ball? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 19:45:47 GMT
You see it pretty much how I do at the moment. ..... Too many people are jumping to knee jerk reactions in my opinion Agree too many reacting to what they see with their own eyes and what they know about the game. We should all just sit tight have no opinion and hope! UTG! Didn't say people couldn't have or express an opinion just like what I've posted is mine and what I've seen and my knowledge of the game. My opinion is that I've seen enough potential and games where we've played well but been inconsistent and at times unlucky to believe that we have enough about us to turn this round and fly up the league. .... I could be mad and I might be wearing rose tinted specs but that's my opinion |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Sept 3, 2018 20:31:48 GMT
It’s easy look at our start and see: - 20th - 4 points - few goals Equals total disaster. We’ve been bad on occasions. There is no attempt to “sugar coat” this. However is the start that bad? Or is the start, merely that. From my POV we could have easierly drawn each of 6 matches. - Peterborough caught us on the hop but then had to defend doggedly for 55 mins. - Accrington, shocking performance but far from outplayed. - Wycombe took a fine save from Smith to ensure the W, and they arguably had claim to a penalty. - Portsmouth, until the red card- we were the likely winners. - Southend, a dreadful game. - Shrewsbury, actually did draw. It’s not madness to point out that we’ve been in every game. Had we drawn each- we’d be on 6 points, and barely better off. But perhaps we’d be more optimistic about an unbeaten start. Given that we’ve suffered 2 red cards, played the early pace setters and several injuries. Infact, we might conclude that we’d had a good start, and with obvious improvement ahead. It would be exciting and yet we’d still only be a couple pts better off. My view is- early days. Last season our early performances were indifferent, yet we picked up results at home. In 6 games, we’ve played up and down to the level of our opponents. We’re lacking that bit of umphh. The players are playing like strangers, and yet we’re still in the games. Give it time and they will gel and I believe a good season will still follow. need a bit more quality not umphh I prefer oomphh |
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Post by aghast on Sept 3, 2018 21:12:33 GMT
This season has started off no differently from all the other seasons with DC. Badly, and then getting much better, and then either tailing off or going for it.
I don't understand DC's slow starts, but I'm getting used to them, and I'm certainly not panicking about yet another,
Well at least not on September 3rd ffs.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 3, 2018 21:25:45 GMT
Need new CBS, and the bearded 1. Leads should play R.M. Everyone else is out of position, I think this could actually work. Think leads should be in the box for our corners too, he’s got a bit more height and I reckon he can leap high with them spangly legs. Leads cannot cross the ball though he gets about 20 per cent across, hits first man or puts it behind, he is so overrated, has pace but so has usain Bolt. Definitely overrated. Sick to death of watching him in space on the wing only to do what he does every time. That is to wait for the defender to get close, then try to run round him on the outside and then fail to get the cross past the first man cos we are now up against league one defenders and not conference defenders. Why can't he just get the cross in when he's got plenty of space. He's so infuriating. Then there's his ball control. His legs seem too long for him to be able to control the ball. I always think he looks like a mixture of spaghetti legs and Bambi on ice. No doubt he's a nice lad but ffs do the basics. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 3, 2018 22:00:37 GMT
Leads cannot cross the ball though he gets about 20 per cent across, hits first man or puts it behind, he is so overrated, has pace but so has usain Bolt. Definitely overrated. Sick to death of watching him in space on the wing only to do what he does every time. That is to wait for the defender to get close, then try to run round him on the outside and then fail to get the cross past the first man cos we are now up against league one defenders and not conference defenders. Why can't he just get the cross in when he's got plenty of space. He's so infuriating. Then there's his ball control. His legs seem too long for him to be able to control the ball. I always think he looks like a mixture of spaghetti legs and Bambi on ice. No doubt he's a nice lad but ffs do the basics. Spaghetti legs and Bambi on ice. Lol.  |
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Post by Gasshole on Sept 4, 2018 0:16:22 GMT
need a bit more quality not umphh I prefer oomphh I should imagine Nobby could help us out with a bit of oompapa |
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