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Post by stevek192 on Oct 4, 2014 18:17:50 GMT
Well that was certainly two points dropped due entirely to our inability to take chances and kill teams off. However I am not going to down the team because their current form is very good and its not the end of the world and if we take 3 points on Tuesday then I would have taken 4 points from the two home games.
Puddy 6 Did as well as I expected. His distribution is so much better than Mildy but that is it really. Doesn't feel me with any confiden ce but he's ok as a reserve keeper.
Lockyer 7 Steady performance but still don't think he is a full back and IMO if you are looking as a full back then Leadbitter just edges it for me but to be fair he is doinga pretty good job.
Trotman 7.5 Solid as usual and becoming Mr dependable although involved in a right mess up with the keeper in the first half.
Parkes 8 For me back to somewhere near his best. Comfortable on the ball and strong in the air.
Brown 8 A storming game both defensively and going forward.
Gosling 6 Should have scored when he decided to cross the ball. Quite skilful but a little lightweight at times and should be attacking more.
Sinclair 8.5 Covered an amazing amount of ground and harrassed the opposition all afternoon. Tried to get the team moving forward and created the goal when his shot deflected to Cunnington.
Mansell 7 Kept battling and controlled a lot of the game from midfield and unlucky with a header. Leads by example and does a difficult job well when we are outnumbered in midfield.
Martin 6 Drifted in and out of the game like most wingers do. Seems to get a nose bleed when there is a sniff of a chance but put in some decent crosses.
Taylor 5 Just can't see a striker in him I'm afraid. Good movement and effort but spends too much time running around and away from goal however he should have killed the game off with the one against one but failed miserably and I am afraid DC must find a replacement as soon as possible as without a definite goalscorer every game is going to be a close run affair.
Cunnington 6.5 Needs a partner badly. scored again and won a lot of the ball but should have finished with a hattrick.
Harrison 6 Did reasonably well but would rather have seen him through the middle and in all honesty I would have started him upfront with Cunnington
Monkhouse 5 Looked off the pace but won a few balls in the air
DC 5 Could not understand his substitutions today as when Cunnington came off we lost the ability to compete with a tall backline. IMO should have started with harrison up front with Cunnington as Matty Taylor has been given more than enough games to score goals but really doesn't look like scoring. It seems to be another season where we don't have a striking partnership and therefore don't look like ever killing off the opposition. This must be put right immediately or there are going to be a lot of very short nails.
To conclude its a game that we should have won and deserved to win but until we kill teams off there are going to be a lot of games where there is only one goal in it to the end. It's not the end of the world and our unbeaten run goes on but we must win Tuesday to make up for todays result.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 4, 2014 18:22:38 GMT
Think your ratings are generous to be honest.
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 4, 2014 18:46:10 GMT
Thanks for that, Steve, always interesting to see what someone else thought. The only one I'd really disagree with is your score for Dave Martin. I thought he was the touch of class in the side and played well.
I know Cunnington got the goal but when we were told he was slow, boy, were they not kidding. At one point in the second half he was left clean through on goal, well ahead of the defender, but, like a fat burglar seeing the police dog released, he didn't even bother to run at goal, knowing it was hopeless. For that reason, I'd disagree with your assessment of DC as well, because Harrison looks so much quicker and something needed to change.
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I am slowly being forced to agree that Taylor looks like a lost cause. He had good chances today but just doesn't seem to have that clinical coolness needed in front of goal. Harsh, maybe. We' ll see. We wasted so many good chances today. We should have buried them well before the end. We just have to score more goals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:50:44 GMT
Thanks for that, Steve, always interesting to see what someone else thought. The only one I'd really disagree with is your score for Dave Martin. I thought he was the touch of class in the side and played well. I know Cunnington got the goal but when we were told he was slow, boy, we're they not kidding. At one point in the second half he was left clean through on goal, well ahead of the defender, but, like a fat burglar seeing the police dog released, he didn't even bother to run at goal, knowing it was hopeless. I am slowly being forced to agree that Taylor looks like a lost cause. He had good chances today but just doesn't seem to have that clinical coolness needed in front of goal. Harsh, maybe. We' ll see. We wasted so many good chances today. We should have buried them well before the end. We just have to score more goals. Heard this from a few mates who went today. Despite him scoring, he literally walks quicker than he runs. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2014 19:12:41 GMT
Whilst JW is getting stick on the Brunt thread I'm not really sure if Cunnington & White/Taylor is that much of an improvement on last season's Harrold & Clarkson/Beardsley.
Rather than stretch the wage budget to sign Taylor & White why didn't DC just spend it all on one proven goalscorer?
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2014 19:21:01 GMT
I thought Sinclair was amazing today everything he did oozed class and he just seemed to have so much more time on the ball than anyone else and that's because he's enjoying himself, cool as a cucumber even when surrounded by players,
His best performance yet 9 out of 10
The rest of the team I'd give fives and sixes with Trottman a 7.
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2014 19:23:16 GMT
Whilst JW is getting stick on the Brunt thread I'm not really sure if Cunnington & White/Taylor is that much of an improvement on last season's Harrold & Clarkson/Beardsley. Rather than stretch the wage budget to sign Taylor & White why didn't DC just spend it all on one proven goalscorer? Isn't white a proven scorer at his level ? |
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 4, 2014 19:53:16 GMT
Whilst JW is getting stick on the Brunt thread I'm not really sure if Cunnington & White/Taylor is that much of an improvement on last season's Harrold & Clarkson/Beardsley. Rather than stretch the wage budget to sign Taylor & White why didn't DC just spend it all on one proven goalscorer? Isn't white a proven scorer at his level ? I remember DC saying that White was the most natural finisher in the Conference, don' t I? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:36:25 GMT
totally agree with stevek as usual,,,lets not write our strikers off yet please,,,,if cunnington was fast he wouldnt be playing in the conference,hes a big target man whose done well for us???
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 4, 2014 21:44:06 GMT
Thought Lockyer was poor today and was at fault for the Dover goal by letting the player turn
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 22:12:08 GMT
Thought Lockyer was poor today and was at fault for the Dover goal by letting the player turn Have to disagree, Lockyer had a fine game today especially first half where he broke down so many of their attacks. His distribution was better today and he looked useful going forward although not much end product. |
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 4, 2014 22:54:53 GMT
totally agree with stevek as usual,,,lets not write our strikers off yet please,,,,if cunnington was fast he wouldnt be playing in the conference,hes a big target man whose done well for us??? Yes, fair point, and he has got more goals than anyone else for us so far. It is also still early days. |
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Post by mjhgas on Oct 5, 2014 0:44:58 GMT
Parkes was awful today - his positional play was diabolical! Passing was average at best. Slow, overweight? Too many kebabs or beers?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2014 8:59:42 GMT
T Whilst JW is getting stick on the Brunt thread I'm not really sure if Cunnington & White/Taylor is that much of an improvement on last season's Harrold & Clarkson/Beardsley. Rather than stretch the wage budget to sign Taylor & White why didn't DC just spend it all on one proven goalscorer? Isn't white a proven scorer at his level ? Don't think he's even managed a shot on target for us? Either he's unfit or not interested, it's all a bit odd! |
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Post by Russgas on Oct 5, 2014 9:18:03 GMT
Disappointed, we never won the match with all the chances we missed at 1 nil, but overall Dover deserved a draw. We were very fortunate Cunnington's goal stood,as it looked suspiciously offside to me and Puddy was very lucky not to be sent off after the back pass incident.
One thing that really annoys me is,if our goalkeeper is kicking it out,then he should be aiming for Cunnington the target man to win his header and Taylor should be anticipating the flick on. What actually happens is they both stand too far apart and half the time Tayor has to contest the first header himself,which due to his lack of height he loses. and then the play breaks down. All basic stuff really. We would be far more effective with Harrison and Cunnington upfront together and Taylor playing in behind these two.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 5, 2014 10:13:00 GMT
Russgas , Agree with what you say there except on the goal as Cunnington was played onside by the full back who was too slow moving out. (This has been confirmed by Dover supporters who were in line with it on their site) so well done to the Lino on that occasion. The only problem with having Taylor in behind is that it would probably put too great a strain on the midfield.
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Post by Russgas on Oct 5, 2014 10:29:51 GMT
Russgas , Agree with what you say there except on the goal as Cunnington was played onside by the full back who was too slow moving out. (This has been confirmed by Dover supporters who were in line with it on their site) so well done to the Lino on that occasion. The only problem with having Taylor in behind is that it would probably put too great a strain on the midfield. Steve, thanks for clearing that up. I have never been convinced of our midfield this season playing a 4-4-2. I have watched all our home games bar Grimsby ( due to a Holiday) and the only match we looked comfortable in was Nuneaton. We look far more solid with five ( Wingback System) and we badly miss Leadbitters pace going forward. |
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 5, 2014 10:48:40 GMT
Russgas IMO to play 4-4-2 you have to have two quick wingers and also the defence pushing up quickly or you do like we do a lot of the time and give the two central midfielders too much work to do. I actually think Mansell and Sinclair make a fantastic job of a pretty impossible task in there particularly as Sinclair likes to run everywhere which makes Mansells job even harder. For me Gosling is too light weight and we could do with a fast winger on the right or like you say, play wingbacks. Thinking back to Cureton and Roberts or ANY of the successful PARTNERSHIPS and they stuck pretty central and reasonably close together. I don't recall Roberts defending corners or Cureton spending a lot of time out wide (unless he was actually playing that role). That to me is our biggest problem and it is something which DC told ud wouldn't happen as he wanted us to play on the last man.
Tuesday for me it would be Harrison and Cunnington and if it doesnt work give White a chance. You have to keep trying until you get a proper partnership.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 11:52:15 GMT
Well that was certainly two points dropped due entirely to our inability to take chances and kill teams off. However I am not going to down the team because their current form is very good and its not the end of the world and if we take 3 points on Tuesday then I would have taken 4 points from the two home games. Puddy 6 Did as well as I expected. His distribution is so much better than Mildy but that is it really. Doesn't feel me with any confiden ce but he's ok as a reserve keeper. Lockyer 7 Steady performance but still don't think he is a full back and IMO if you are looking as a full back then Leadbitter just edges it for me but to be fair he is doinga pretty good job. Trotman 7.5 Solid as usual and becoming Mr dependable although involved in a right mess up with the keeper in the first half. Parkes 8 For me back to somewhere near his best. Comfortable on the ball and strong in the air. Brown 8 A storming game both defensively and going forward. Gosling 6 Should have scored when he decided to cross the ball. Quite skilful but a little lightweight at times and should be attacking more. Sinclair 8.5 Covered an amazing amount of ground and harrassed the opposition all afternoon. Tried to get the team moving forward and created the goal when his shot deflected to Cunnington. Mansell 7 Kept battling and controlled a lot of the game from midfield and unlucky with a header. Leads by example and does a difficult job well when we are outnumbered in midfield. Martin 6 Drifted in and out of the game like most wingers do. Seems to get a nose bleed when there is a sniff of a chance but put in some decent crosses. Taylor 5 Just can't see a striker in him I'm afraid. Good movement and effort but spends too much time running around and away from goal however he should have killed the game off with the one against one but failed miserably and I am afraid DC must find a replacement as soon as possible as without a definite goalscorer every game is going to be a close run affair. Cunnington 6.5 Needs a partner badly. scored again and won a lot of the ball but should have finished with a hattrick. Harrison 6 Did reasonably well but would rather have seen him through the middle and in all honesty I would have started him upfront with Cunnington Monkhouse 5 Looked off the pace but won a few balls in the air DC 5 Could not understand his substitutions today as when Cunnington came off we lost the ability to compete with a tall backline. IMO should have started with harrison up front with Cunnington as Matty Taylor has been given more than enough games to score goals but really doesn't look like scoring. It seems to be another season where we don't have a striking partnership and therefore don't look like ever killing off the opposition. This must be put right immediately or there are going to be a lot of very short nails. To conclude its a game that we should have won and deserved to win but until we kill teams off there are going to be a lot of games where there is only one goal in it to the end. It's not the end of the world and our unbeaten run goes on but we must win Tuesday to make up for todays result. Thanks for that Steve. It's great that you do this mate. I still can't face going so it means a lot to read your reports. Much appreciated |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 5, 2014 12:43:55 GMT
T Isn't white a proven scorer at his level ? Don't think he's even managed a shot on target for us? Either he's unfit or not interested, it's all a bit odd! Get the impression his professionalism regarding looking after himself isn't the best hence not being given much of a chance. If he sorts this out then he could be a massive player for us. It's strange because even though we haven't scored many goals, I rate Taylor, Cunnington and Harrison. |
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