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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 7:49:14 GMT
True although it was commonly and publicly known the club was up for sale. We don't have that here and if anything we have the opposite being said. Also I can't see why anyone who would be selling would put in as much as they have recently to then sell as they wouldn't get an equivalent return (thinking staff costs etc rather than the cosmetics that have been done)... If there's no truth in the rumours why don't the club just deny that the case as it's now all over both forums and FB. That would require communication, something that is sadly lacking from these owners.
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 11, 2018 8:11:03 GMT
Reputational damage?
With our goal record at the moment I don't think anything is sticking in the back of the net at the mo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 8:23:29 GMT
True although it was commonly and publicly known the club was up for sale. We don't have that here and if anything we have the opposite being said. Also I can't see why anyone who would be selling would put in as much as they have recently to then sell as they wouldn't get an equivalent return (thinking staff costs etc rather than the cosmetics that have been done)... If there's no truth in the rumours why don't the club just deny that the case as it's now all over both forums and FB. Not saying there’s no truth whatsoever in the rumours but there’s a big difference between a commercial partnership and outside investment v being sold to new owners... and I honestly don’t know what is or isn’t true..... I’ve been told one thing, others something completely different. Reality is probably somewhere in between..... They can’t exactly put anything out re rumours as that will just fuel things more. If they say we’re not being sold then people will start demanding answers on the investment side and what is the deal, if they say we are being sold then that will create panic and people demanding answers on who to etc. In both scenarios they lose commercial leverage by going public. They can’t win either way and they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.... They are trying to run the club in a professional business manner like any limited company would be and in both scenarios they have to inform the relevant Stock Exchange etc prior to public announcement. I know we all want what’s best for the club but likewise we also have to appreciate that there are rules and regulations that have to be abided to.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 11, 2018 8:39:40 GMT
If there's no truth in the rumours why don't the club just deny that the case as it's now all over both forums and FB. Not saying there’s no truth whatsoever in the rumours but there’s a big difference between a commercial partnership and outside investment v being sold to new owners... and I honestly don’t know what is or isn’t true..... I’ve been told one thing, others something completely different. Reality is probably somewhere in between..... They can’t exactly put anything out re rumours as that will just fuel things more. If they say we’re not being sold then people will start demanding answers on the investment side and what is the deal, if they say we are being sold then that will create panic and people demanding answers on who to etc. In both scenarios they lose commercial leverage by going public. They can’t win either way and they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.... They are trying to run the club in a professional business manner like any limited company would be and in both scenarios they have to inform the relevant Stock Exchange etc prior to public announcement. I know we all want what’s best for the club but likewise we also have to appreciate that there are rules and regulations that have to be abided to. Yet some people seem to have no problem with this story getting out there. No one on this forum is the actual "source", they are just repeating what they've been told.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 8:51:21 GMT
If there's no truth in the rumours why don't the club just deny that the case as it's now all over both forums and FB. Not saying there’s no truth whatsoever in the rumours but there’s a big difference between a commercial partnership and outside investment v being sold to new owners... and I honestly don’t know what is or isn’t true..... I’ve been told one thing, others something completely different. Reality is probably somewhere in between..... They can’t exactly put anything out re rumours as that will just fuel things more. If they say we’re not being sold then people will start demanding answers on the investment side and what is the deal, if they say we are being sold then that will create panic and people demanding answers on who to etc. In both scenarios they lose commercial leverage by going public. They can’t win either way and they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.... They are trying to run the club in a professional business manner like any limited company would be and in both scenarios they have to inform the relevant Stock Exchange etc prior to public announcement. I know we all want what’s best for the club but likewise we also have to appreciate that there are rules and regulations that have to be abided to. I must have missed this. When did the club go Public? Where are they listed?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 10:15:00 GMT
Not saying there’s no truth whatsoever in the rumours but there’s a big difference between a commercial partnership and outside investment v being sold to new owners... and I honestly don’t know what is or isn’t true..... I’ve been told one thing, others something completely different. Reality is probably somewhere in between..... They can’t exactly put anything out re rumours as that will just fuel things more. If they say we’re not being sold then people will start demanding answers on the investment side and what is the deal, if they say we are being sold then that will create panic and people demanding answers on who to etc. In both scenarios they lose commercial leverage by going public. They can’t win either way and they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.... They are trying to run the club in a professional business manner like any limited company would be and in both scenarios they have to inform the relevant Stock Exchange etc prior to public announcement. I know we all want what’s best for the club but likewise we also have to appreciate that there are rules and regulations that have to be abided to. I must have missed this. When did the club go Public? Where are they listed? Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated....
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2018 10:47:00 GMT
I must have missed this. When did the club go Public? Where are they listed? Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated.... Nonsense, there's nothing to stop them denying the rumours if they are not true.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 10:50:49 GMT
I must have missed this. When did the club go Public? Where are they listed? Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated.... I'm a Shareholder and I've not heard a dicky bird !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 11:26:52 GMT
Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated.... Nonsense, there's nothing to stop them denying the rumours if they are not true. See my earlier reply to this point.... Things stopping them responding to rumour will be commercial leverage and not wanting to fuel one rumour over the other and the fact that whatever they said would be scrutinised to the nth degree and creating even more questions. The time they’ll respond to rumours of this nature is when they have a diffinitve answer they can put out to close the rumour down.... Remember fencegate? To my knowledge they didn’t put anything out about that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 11:27:53 GMT
Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated.... I'm a Shareholder and I've not heard a dicky bird ! Exactly..... that’s because there is nothing to say....... either yet or ever....
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Post by CheshireGas on Sept 11, 2018 11:56:45 GMT
Not saying there’s no truth whatsoever in the rumours but there’s a big difference between a commercial partnership and outside investment v being sold to new owners... and I honestly don’t know what is or isn’t true..... I’ve been told one thing, others something completely different. Reality is probably somewhere in between..... They can’t exactly put anything out re rumours as that will just fuel things more. If they say we’re not being sold then people will start demanding answers on the investment side and what is the deal, if they say we are being sold then that will create panic and people demanding answers on who to etc. In both scenarios they lose commercial leverage by going public. They can’t win either way and they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.... They are trying to run the club in a professional business manner like any limited company would be and in both scenarios they have to inform the relevant Stock Exchange etc prior to public announcement. I know we all want what’s best for the club but likewise we also have to appreciate that there are rules and regulations that have to be abided to. Yet some people seem to have no problem with this story getting out there. No one on this forum is the actual "source", they are just repeating what they've been told. The thing is we don't have the leaks from the Board meetings we had under the old regime. As people demand information in the social media driven world we live in, if there hasn't been an announcement in the last 24 hours people feel the need to fill the gap with rumour and conjecture. The company is a private limited company so the directors are only responsible to shareholders and the relevant tax authorities. If Nobby as a shareholder hasn't heard anything there there is nothing significant agreed. There may be things going on in the background but there is no need to tell anyone anythings legally and it may be that any negotiations might fall through so how anyone can say we will all be happy in a particular time period I really don't know. If there is a deal then why delay.....
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Post by beaver132 on Sept 11, 2018 16:10:47 GMT
There is such a thing in Law Enforcement as 'neither confirm nor deny (NCND). When asked if there is an informant, you don't say 'no' because then the moment decline to say anything, everyone knows there is one. The only sensible course of action is a consistent NCND policy...
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Post by yategasman on Sept 11, 2018 16:25:04 GMT
I’ll take the 5th😀
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 11, 2018 16:26:19 GMT
There is such a thing in Law Enforcement as 'neither confirm nor deny (NCND). When asked if there is an informant, you don't say 'no' because then the moment decline to say anything, everyone knows there is one. The only sensible course of action is a consistent NCND policy... Same difference I reckon. Did you have relations with that woman? I can neither confirm or deny that us not going to wash with the Mrs I can tell you.
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Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2018 16:52:10 GMT
There is such a thing in Law Enforcement as 'neither confirm nor deny (NCND). When asked if there is an informant, you don't say 'no' because then the moment decline to say anything, everyone knows there is one. The only sensible course of action is a consistent NCND policy... Same difference I reckon. Did you have relations with that woman? I can neither confirm or deny that us not going to wash with the Mrs I can tell you. Yeah I don’t think my mrs would be happy with that answer !!!
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Post by axegas on Sept 11, 2018 16:58:54 GMT
Didn’t say Plc but Ltd company. There are shares and shareholders and whilst different to a Plc there are still rules and regulations around what can be disclosed and when and an order to doing things. The club are still regulated.... Nonsense, there's nothing to stop them denying the rumours if they are not true. But if they did that every time a rumour appeared on social media or the forums people would criticise them for too much communication. I don't see why they'd want to waste their time appeasing people who are foolish to believe that everything that is written on the forums is the truth.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Sept 11, 2018 17:52:36 GMT
Nonsense, there's nothing to stop them denying the rumours if they are not true. But if they did that every time a rumour appeared on social media or the forums people would criticise them for too much communication. I don't see why they'd want to waste their time appeasing people who are foolish to believe that everything that is written on the forums is the truth. This, this, oh so much this!!!!!!!!!
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