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Post by twertonboy on Sept 12, 2018 6:59:24 GMT
For me on a Saturday watching the clock get nearer and nearer to kick off and doing my pre match routine of grabbing lunch and a pint then waiting in anticipation to 2pm to see the team sheet was great and I really miss that now...
It seems a long time ago to see a team and formation that has a good chance of a good going at the opposition and an entertaining game,
Now that’s gone for me and normally ends up with a glance and a sigh...
Trying to work out how the formation will work or why are we playing that at home or what the players minds must be on it all...
Our away form has been awful since 2015 and that seemed to start with all the changes to every part of our set up away and we always had our home form to claw us back but now all the changes and formation changes have crept into our home set up with a squad i think dc clearly hasn’t got a clue on his best starting eleven and if he does he doesn’t know how to play them together...
I personally think with new additions we’ve become more weak and a relegation battles looms...all I want is the buzz at 2pm knowing it’s going to be a good show....
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 12, 2018 7:06:27 GMT
For me on a Saturday watching the clock get nearer and nearer to kick off and doing my pre match routine of grabbing lunch and a pint then waiting in anticipation to 2pm to see the team sheet was great and I really miss that now... It seems a long time ago to see a team and formation that has a good chance of a good going at the opposition and an entertaining game, Now that’s gone for me and normally ends up with a glance and a sigh... Trying to work out how the formation will work or why are we playing that at home or what the players minds must be on it all... Our away form has been awful since 2015 and that seemed to start with all the changes to every part of our set up away and we always had our home form to claw us back but now all the changes and formation changes have crept into our home set up with a squad i think dc clearly hasn’t got a clue on his best starting eleven and if he does he doesn’t know how to play them together... I personally think with new additions we’ve become more weak and a relegation battles looms...all I want is the buzz at 2pm knowing it’s going to be a good show.... Wycombe (everyone criticised the selection) and Portsmouth were really good games where we gave it a good go and played well. I don't think we'll be pulling up any trees this season but also don't think we will go down. We have missed some key players like Sercombe, Partington and Sinclair. Matthews is looking a great signing. We're still working out our best strike force. We've not lost any game by more than a goal and I think some are panicking too easily. My biggest frustration is how we always start seasons so poorly, as it sometimes feels over before it's began. Write DC off at your peril though. |
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 12, 2018 7:17:00 GMT
Three points please. At this stage, I'm less concerned about how we play etc. I'll take us getting battered for 89 minutes and knicking a 1-0 win as points on the board are an absolute necessity.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 12, 2018 7:51:02 GMT
For me on a Saturday watching the clock get nearer and nearer to kick off and doing my pre match routine of grabbing lunch and a pint then waiting in anticipation to 2pm to see the team sheet was great and I really miss that now... It seems a long time ago to see a team and formation that has a good chance of a good going at the opposition and an entertaining game, Now that’s gone for me and normally ends up with a glance and a sigh... Trying to work out how the formation will work or why are we playing that at home or what the players minds must be on it all... Our away form has been awful since 2015 and that seemed to start with all the changes to every part of our set up away and we always had our home form to claw us back but now all the changes and formation changes have crept into our home set up with a squad i think dc clearly hasn’t got a clue on his best starting eleven and if he does he doesn’t know how to play them together... I personally think with new additions we’ve become more weak and a relegation battles looms...all I want is the buzz at 2pm knowing it’s going to be a good show.... Wycombe (everyone criticised the selection) and Portsmouth were really good games where we gave it a good go and played well. I don't think we'll be pulling up any trees this season but also don't think we will go down. We have missed some key players like Sercombe, Partington and Sinclair. Matthews is looking a great signing. We're still working out our best strike force. We've not lost any game by more than a goal and I think some are panicking too easily. My biggest frustration is how we always start seasons so poorly, as it sometimes feels over before it's began. Write DC off at your peril though. Im DC's biggest fan but he always starts every season slow by trying stupid formations and players out of there natural positions.After a few games he goes back to what got him to the dance which is a simple 4-4-2 and he has gone back to this already. We do have a decent number of new players bedding into our squad still and that can take time.But we have lost our three main forward players of that golden era of sorts we had,and as of yet not replaced them. |
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Post by blueridge on Sept 12, 2018 7:51:18 GMT
For me on a Saturday watching the clock get nearer and nearer to kick off and doing my pre match routine of grabbing lunch and a pint then waiting in anticipation to 2pm to see the team sheet was great and I really miss that now... It seems a long time ago to see a team and formation that has a good chance of a good going at the opposition and an entertaining game, Now that’s gone for me and normally ends up with a glance and a sigh... Trying to work out how the formation will work or why are we playing that at home or what the players minds must be on it all... Our away form has been awful since 2015 and that seemed to start with all the changes to every part of our set up away and we always had our home form to claw us back but now all the changes and formation changes have crept into our home set up with a squad i think dc clearly hasn’t got a clue on his best starting eleven and if he does he doesn’t know how to play them together... I personally think with new additions we’ve become more weak and a relegation battles looms...all I want is the buzz at 2pm knowing it’s going to be a good show.... I tend to agree - unfortunately the home form is going the same way - only one win since last February. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Sept 12, 2018 8:00:09 GMT
Oh for the form of the conference season
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Post by spiess1 on Sept 12, 2018 8:02:25 GMT
Butterflies?
I see nothing but moths in posts like that.
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 12, 2018 8:44:57 GMT
Wycombe (everyone criticised the selection) and Portsmouth were really good games where we gave it a good go and played well. I don't think we'll be pulling up any trees this season but also don't think we will go down. We have missed some key players like Sercombe, Partington and Sinclair. Matthews is looking a great signing. We're still working out our best strike force. We've not lost any game by more than a goal and I think some are panicking too easily. My biggest frustration is how we always start seasons so poorly, as it sometimes feels over before it's began. Write DC off at your peril though. Im DC's biggest fan but he always starts every season slow by trying stupid formations and players out of there natural positions.After a few games he goes back to what got him to the dance which is a simple 4-4-2 and he has gone back to this already. We do have a decent number of new players bedding into our squad still and that can take time.But we have lost our three main forward players of that golden era of sorts we had,and as of yet not replaced them. I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. |
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Post by Eaststaffsgas on Sept 12, 2018 9:03:54 GMT
To be honest, I don't think I can ever say that I have ever gone to watch Rovers to be entertained. Even when I was a kid, I went for the buzz of the crowd, the tension and above all, to see us win. I have never come away from a game where we have 'entertained' but lost and felt happy. In a nutshell, we can all pick at DC, his team selection and the quality or lack of it of certain aspects of our players technique but his job is to above all, get results not entertain. I lived in London for forty years and made many visits to premiership games-the grounds are full of people who have bought a ticket to be entertained just as though they were going to see the latest blockbuster movie or to the theatre. They have no real allegiance to the club. As a die hard Rovers fan, I buy a ticket to see us win and if we play well at the same time, all the better. As Neilv93 says, three points please however we play and just maybe the confidence which is clearly lacking right now might just start building.
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Post by twertonboy on Sept 12, 2018 9:19:13 GMT
Butterflies? I see nothing but moths in posts like that. Exactly I don’t have butterflies that’s my point now just moths |
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 12, 2018 10:06:54 GMT
The thing was 4-4-2 is it can be so flexible in the sense of the second striker. If you have someone who can drop into midfield then it can easily become a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1, likewise one of the midfielders a la Clarke/Upson/Lines can drop back further and sit in front of defence to make a 4-1-4-1 so it's so easy to chop and change mid-game if required which is a good thing.
Not trying to spout tactical BS because that's overdoing it but it's clearly the way to go with the players we have at our disposal for now. Maybe bring back the 3-5-2 if/when THD is back and (hopefully) Leadbitter finds form.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 12, 2018 10:22:26 GMT
Im DC's biggest fan but he always starts every season slow by trying stupid formations and players out of there natural positions.After a few games he goes back to what got him to the dance which is a simple 4-4-2 and he has gone back to this already. We do have a decent number of new players bedding into our squad still and that can take time.But we have lost our three main forward players of that golden era of sorts we had,and as of yet not replaced them. I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. I know what Harry is saying and I 100% agree. I hate the modern days over thinking of football which is the sky/Bt effect imho. Football is a very simple game.Its 11 vs 11.You have to try to score more goals that your opponent -simple.Play a left back at LB.A centre midfielder at CM...etc. I miss the days of 4-4-2 played by Fergies Man utd or keegans Newcastle sides.Two wingers and two up top and go for it. If you score 3 then we will score 4 mindset. Ollie when he was manager here 20 years ago did that, and the 1998 season and 1999/2000 season were some of the most entertaing football I can remember.I do think that we played 3-5-3 at times in 99/00 from what I remember tho. |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 12, 2018 12:15:32 GMT
I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. I know what Harry is saying and I 100% agree. I hate the modern days over thinking of football which is the sky/Bt effect imho. Football is a very simple game.Its 11 vs 11.You have to try to score more goals that your opponent -simple.Play a left back at LB.A centre midfielder at CM...etc. I miss the days of 4-4-2 played by Fergies Man utd or keegans Newcastle sides.Two wingers and two up top and go for it. If you score 3 then we will score 4 mindset. Ollie when he was manager here 20 years ago did that, and the 1998 season and 1999/2000 season were some of the most entertaing football I can remember.I do think that we played 3-5-3 at times in 99/00 from what I remember tho. 3 - 5 - 3 that’s an interesting combination? I can’t say that I remember that one, did we play with no goal keeper? |
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 12, 2018 12:44:22 GMT
I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. I know what Harry is saying and I 100% agree. I hate the modern days over thinking of football which is the sky/Bt effect imho. Football is a very simple game.Its 11 vs 11.You have to try to score more goals that your opponent -simple.Play a left back at LB.A centre midfielder at CM...etc. I miss the days of 4-4-2 played by Fergies Man utd or keegans Newcastle sides.Two wingers and two up top and go for it. If you score 3 then we will score 4 mindset. Ollie when he was manager here 20 years ago did that, and the 1998 season and 1999/2000 season were some of the most entertaing football I can remember.I do think that we played 3-5-3 at times in 99/00 from what I remember tho. Memory is tricking me but think I remember Roberts cureton Nigel Pierre and Ellington on late in one home game it was fantastic, sure if my memory is tricking me I will be advised. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 12, 2018 15:17:36 GMT
I know what Harry is saying and I 100% agree. I hate the modern days over thinking of football which is the sky/Bt effect imho. Football is a very simple game.Its 11 vs 11.You have to try to score more goals that your opponent -simple.Play a left back at LB.A centre midfielder at CM...etc. I miss the days of 4-4-2 played by Fergies Man utd or keegans Newcastle sides.Two wingers and two up top and go for it. If you score 3 then we will score 4 mindset. Ollie when he was manager here 20 years ago did that, and the 1998 season and 1999/2000 season were some of the most entertaing football I can remember.I do think that we played 3-5-3 at times in 99/00 from what I remember tho. 3 - 5 - 3 that’s an interesting combination? I can’t say that I remember that one, did we play with no goal keeper? Haha we played with a drop back keeper! Lol My mistake,I meant 3-5-2.. |
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Post by macm on Sept 12, 2018 16:08:20 GMT
Im DC's biggest fan but he always starts every season slow by trying stupid formations and players out of there natural positions.After a few games he goes back to what got him to the dance which is a simple 4-4-2 and he has gone back to this already. We do have a decent number of new players bedding into our squad still and that can take time.But we have lost our three main forward players of that golden era of sorts we had,and as of yet not replaced them. I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. What you're forgetting by saying that is, that Redknapp was a terrible manager. |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 12, 2018 16:59:33 GMT
I don't get butterflies at Rovers anymore. Nowadays it's a terrible gripey knotting in my stomach when I see the teamsheet and Nichols and spaghetti-legs/bambi-on-ice Leadbitter are on there. Add that to the heightened sense of foreboding due to not having a striker to score goals, rarely keeping a clean sheet, and more than likely not to win. It feels like more of a chore than a pleasantry but I still keep going every home game.  Other than that, life is good. |
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Post by aghast on Sept 12, 2018 17:06:07 GMT
I love DC but totally agree he thinks he s pep, trouble is we haven’t got that quality heard Harry Redknapp on talk sport saying tooo much is made of formations good old 4 4 2 with everyone knowing their roles and well organised is all you need, and I tend to think it is a valid point. Every season we start slow, and give other teams a 10 game start, pre season did not have enough matches for me as it was not just about fitness we have seemed disjointed and disorganised. DC will get it right but square pegs in round holes is the problem so far, shoe horning all your favourite players in, plus my biggest bug bear the crossing into the box has been woeful especially Leads. What you're forgetting by saying that is, that Redknapp was a terrible manager. He wasn't. He really wasn't. HM Revenue and Customs might not be on his Christmas card list, but he has a superb track record. Just check it. I think lots of people confuse Harry's financial history with his footballing history. Which English manager has done as well as him this Century? (Cue loads of suggested English managers I'd forgotten about.) |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 12, 2018 17:23:48 GMT
3 - 5 - 3 that’s an interesting combination? I can’t say that I remember that one, did we play with no goal keeper? Haha we played with a drop back keeper! Lol My mistake,I meant 3-5-2.. I don’t think we’ve playing with a keeper for about the last 3 years! Well not that Ive noticed anyway. |
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Post by macm on Sept 12, 2018 17:28:35 GMT
What you're forgetting by saying that is, that Redknapp was a terrible manager. He wasn't. He really wasn't. HM Revenue and Customs might not be on his Christmas card list, but he has a superb track record. Just check it. I think lots of people confuse Harry's financial history with his footballing history. Which English manager has done as well as him this Century? (Cue loads of suggested English managers I'd forgotten about.) Harry had one major trophy during his time in management, the FA Cup. Is Harry a good manager because of the poor standards set by other English managers? I think the guys an ok manager, nothing more. Very over rated. |
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