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Post by oldgas on Oct 4, 2018 17:30:07 GMT
Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor, Bodin et al are good footballers with potential that the coaching staff developed. There was something to work with. If our parsimonious owners won't invest in decent replacements what are the coaches supposed to do? You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear I'm afraid. Don't know what happened there. Double post. Sorry!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2018 17:37:00 GMT
Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Nail on the head there about wide men. Whenever we play very narrow we tend to look a bit tighter defensively but don’t create much st all. Over the last four years we’ve always had wide men for lines to pass to and then overlapping fullbacks bombing on. DCs success with us was built on it and since we’ve gone more narrow we’ve struggled. Problem is our wide men, Rodman and Matthews, have gone missing, and Bennett seems to have forgotten he's supposed to be a winger. I'd try Leads as a right winger on Saturday if Rodman and Matthews are still missing. Alternatively put Sincs out there and tell him to stay out wide, and also tell Bennett to do the same on the left. The problem then though is finding room for Sercs as he can't play CM alongside OC.
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2018 18:01:11 GMT
Nail on the head there about wide men. Whenever we play very narrow we tend to look a bit tighter defensively but don’t create much st all. Over the last four years we’ve always had wide men for lines to pass to and then overlapping fullbacks bombing on. DCs success with us was built on it and since we’ve gone more narrow we’ve struggled. Problem is our wide men, Rodman and Matthews, have gone missing, and Bennett seems to have forgotten he's supposed to be a winger. I'd try Leads as a right winger on Saturday if Rodman and Matthews are still missing. Alternatively put Sincs out there and tell him to stay out wide, and also tell Bennett to do the same on the left. The problem then though is finding room for Sercs as he can't play CM alongside OC. Play Sercombe just in behind jackubiak as a number 10 with lines and Olly in midfield.
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 4, 2018 18:02:46 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2018 18:15:13 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well Against Coventry we used the width of the pitch and the full backs got forward more and it was more like DCs Rovers. If we keep playing like that at home and keep things tight and pick up draws away from home then we should definitely have enough to stay up.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Oct 4, 2018 18:21:32 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor - can't get regular games at the Sh*t Bodin - crocked again Harrison - how many has he scored for Ipswich ?
So they all did well for us, but it hasn't worked out that well since leaving. Like the players we've brought in having done well elsewhere that aren't doing it for us. We seem to have a plethora of mid-fielders, but lack an effective striker. So perhaps the solution is...grind out points & keep defence tight, then get a striker (or two) in at New Year.
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 4, 2018 18:24:20 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well Against Coventry we used the width of the pitch and the full backs got forward more and it was more like DCs Rovers. If we keep playing like that at home and keep things tight and pick up draws away from home then we should definitely have enough to stay up. Agree, same again Sat & that's 8 points from 4 games. Can't wait, getting excited already, but then at my age it's about the only thing that gets me going. Oh and Big Jock's 'ladies'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 18:25:23 GMT
Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor - can't get regular games at the Sh*t Bodin - crocked again Harrison - how many has he scored for Ipswich ?
So they all did well for us, but it hasn't worked out that well since leaving. Like the players we've brought in having done well elsewhere that aren't doing it for us. We seem to have a plethora of mid-fielders, but lack an effective striker. So perhaps the solution is...grind out points & keep defence tight, then get a striker (or two) in at New Year.
82'ers are calling for Taylor to get more game time. Harrison is out injured for at least two months. Bodin's injury may well have happened if he'd stayed with us anyway.
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 4, 2018 18:30:16 GMT
Nail on the head there about wide men. Whenever we play very narrow we tend to look a bit tighter defensively but don’t create much st all. Over the last four years we’ve always had wide men for lines to pass to and then overlapping fullbacks bombing on. DCs success with us was built on it and since we’ve gone more narrow we’ve struggled. Problem is our wide men, Rodman and Matthews, have gone missing, and Bennett seems to have forgotten he's supposed to be a winger. I'd try Leads as a right winger on Saturday if Rodman and Matthews are still missing. Alternatively put Sincs out there and tell him to stay out wide, and also tell Bennett to do the same on the left. The problem then though is finding room for Sercs as he can't play CM alongside OC. leads couldn’t cross a road,he puts in one good cross a season If he was good at crossing the ball he wouldn’t be playing for us
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 4, 2018 18:38:21 GMT
Taylor - can't get regular games at the Sh*t Bodin - crocked again Harrison - how many has he scored for Ipswich ?
So they all did well for us, but it hasn't worked out that well since leaving. Like the players we've brought in having done well elsewhere that aren't doing it for us. We seem to have a plethora of mid-fielders, but lack an effective striker. So perhaps the solution is...grind out points & keep defence tight, then get a striker (or two) in at New Year.
82'ers are calling for Taylor to get more game time. Harrison is out injured for at least two months. Bodin's injury may well have happened if he'd stayed with us anyway. Didn't realise Ellis is out injured, hope nothing too serious.
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 4, 2018 18:43:45 GMT
Problem is our wide men, Rodman and Matthews, have gone missing, and Bennett seems to have forgotten he's supposed to be a winger. I'd try Leads as a right winger on Saturday if Rodman and Matthews are still missing. Alternatively put Sincs out there and tell him to stay out wide, and also tell Bennett to do the same on the left. The problem then though is finding room for Sercs as he can't play CM alongside OC. leads couldn’t cross a road,he puts in one good cross a season If he was good at crossing the ball he wouldn’t be playing for us All the gear pace and no idea bloke in East stand sat next to me must be dreading every time Leads gets in a crossing position as it always ends up going out, and me moaning more than Cathy Barry 😂
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Post by markczgas on Oct 4, 2018 18:52:08 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well Against Coventry we used the width of the pitch and the full backs got forward more and it was more like DCs Rovers. If we keep playing like that at home and keep things tight and pick up draws away from home then we should definitely have enough to stay up. They also gifted us the first 2 goals - it hasn't happened much in this division for the last 2 seasons and a bit. Still loads to work on - as others have said I don't think we play with width enough. Bennett cutting inside has been sussed by every team. DC has to adapt more I think - hopefully Matthews will be back soon. I'd like to see him on the left and Rodman/Bennett on the right - traditional I know but at least the play is stretched more that way.
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2018 19:12:07 GMT
Against Coventry we used the width of the pitch and the full backs got forward more and it was more like DCs Rovers. If we keep playing like that at home and keep things tight and pick up draws away from home then we should definitely have enough to stay up. They also gifted us the first 2 goals - it hasn't happened much in this division for the last 2 seasons and a bit. Still loads to work on - as others have said I don't think we play with width enough. Bennett cutting inside has been sussed by every team. DC has to adapt more I think - hopefully Matthews will be back soon. I'd like to see him on the left and Rodman/Bennett on the right - traditional I know but at least the play is stretched more that way. I agree with a lot of that and I’ll also add that Chris Lines is in his element when we play with width because he’s great at spreading the play. When we play narrow he might as well be on the bench.
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 4, 2018 19:45:51 GMT
Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor, Bodin et al are good footballers with potential that the coaching staff developed. There was something to work with. If our parsimonious owners won't invest in decent replacements what are the coaches supposed to do? You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear I'm afraid. Really??? Taylor wasn't wanted by FGRs and Bodin wasn't wanted by Northampton. Nichols was the top goalscorer at a league 1 club and cost over £300,000. He hasn't worked out, as he is lacking in confidence. They choose him though, so you can't blame the board for everything. Loads of players are turned into good signings, who cost £300,000.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 4, 2018 22:11:49 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well Do you not think that by DC chopping and changing the team ,formation , tactics as the result in the players as you say having no confidence , poor form and inconsistent , they don't know from one game to the next if they will be playing and if so in what position and what formation no wonder they have no confidence, have poor form and are inconsistent , don't blame the players blame DC .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 22:49:50 GMT
82'ers are calling for Taylor to get more game time. Harrison is out injured for at least two months. Bodin's injury may well have happened if he'd stayed with us anyway. Didn't realise Ellis is out injured, hope nothing too serious. Damaged his ankle ligaments in training.
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 5, 2018 0:29:27 GMT
I think DC with his top coaching qualifications & his daily interaction with the players, is far better placed than anyone on here when it comes to tactics, formations etc. You can coach til you're blue in the face, but if players can't adapt it doesn't mean a jot. IMO the players are just not producing, whether they are good enough or not that's DC's job. We have too many players lacking in confidence/poor form/inconsistent. Should DC change what has stood him in good stead, perhaps not. Has he made the best of what resources he has had on players? I'm not sure, I think the squad is L2 at best & there lies the problem as we are in L1. Maybe time to blood some of the development squad they should be able to adapt being younger. I think if we stay up he has done well Do you not think that by DC chopping and changing the team ,formation , tactics as the result in the players as you say having no confidence , poor form and inconsistent , they don't know from one game to the next if they will be playing and if so in what position and what formation no wonder they have no confidence, have poor form and are inconsistent , don't blame the players blame DC . I understand what you say & you possibly have a valid point. 20 years ago I probably would have agreed 100%. But the pace of the game has changed (OK leaving myself open here) and all you hear is players being jaded after playin 2/3 games in a week, there is a reliance on stats on how far they run etc & I am sure the 'modern' manager takes all this into account. Plus the fact DC loves his 'each game is a different project' the players will know this & the plan will be practiced on the training ground. He might announce the team for us to dicect & worry about formation, an hour before ko, but the players will know their role from the training ground. If the players can't put the training into practice then I think it's time to bring in the youngsters. DC has got us success with this belief & that includes the first season back in L1, he was helped by the adaptability of the players. He has said that the new players he has brought in have not got up to speed quickly enough, maybe there needs to be more time for them to gel into his style of management, I am sure he has enough to keep us out of danger. I get that some people don't like his style & that's fine we are all entitled to our views. We have put a mini run together ( with all the changes) & hopefully this continues.
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 5, 2018 0:31:54 GMT
Didn't realise Ellis is out injured, hope nothing too serious. Damaged his ankle ligaments in training. 😫
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Post by William Wilson on Oct 5, 2018 6:30:44 GMT
What do you expect when we are so slow and laborious in possession. We have no pace whatsoever down the wings, the formation keeps changing., We pile everybody back for corners and free kicks and don't have the speed to get up the pitch. Lines was behind Broadbent half the time on Tuesday. The Manager has to take the blame as he plays square pegs in round holes and relies on the whole team defending. Has anyone told DC that his tactics are negative and boring and needs some refreshment before we lose more support. Spot on. Especially the square pegs and round holes comment. Sticking Sercombe out on the wing, is just such a waste of what he`s good at.
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Post by lympstonegas on Oct 5, 2018 6:37:40 GMT
Taylor, Bodin et al are good footballers with potential that the coaching staff developed. There was something to work with. If our parsimonious owners won't invest in decent replacements what are the coaches supposed to do? You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear I'm afraid. Don't know what happened there. Double post. Sorry! Well a pig does have 2 ears and we are talking about 2 players lol
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