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Post by barleycorn48 on Oct 4, 2018 9:43:30 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 4, 2018 9:45:41 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Fair comment and to a degree i agree with you, my only concern is what instructions are being given to our current coaching staff to follow and would any new coach have to follow the same instructions ?
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 4, 2018 9:50:11 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's.
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Post by axegas on Oct 4, 2018 9:53:01 GMT
I’m not sure that recruiting even more coaches is the answer. We have Marcus Stewart who was able to work wonders on Bodin, Taylor and Harrison ect. For me it seems to be that we don’t have the right personnel to score too many and that won’t change unless we stop playing Nichols and recruit another winger and Striker in January to provide us with a much needed boost.
I’m not overly worried about how things are going on the pitch but equally I’m not enthused by it either. It looks to me as it’s a case of carrying this season home in a lower mid table spot and going again next year. A cup run would make things more interesting but with DC’s track record, I doubt it.
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Oct 4, 2018 9:54:31 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. We are creating numerous chances in most games.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 4, 2018 10:07:22 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. We are creating numerous chances in most games. This is the way I see it. We create chances we just don't take them
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 4, 2018 10:12:02 GMT
Before this season scoring goals was never a problem under DC.
We have had plenty of periods in the past few years where we have conceded too many but we were often able to outscore the opposition.
This time last season we had scored nearly twice as many goals in our first 11 games. Will be a lot more as our 12th game last season was the 6-0 at Northampton! We also conceded more than twice as many in our first 11 games last season than we have now. Our goal difference was -8 compared to -2 now.
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Post by bluestone on Oct 4, 2018 10:13:35 GMT
We are creating numerous chances in most games. This is the way I see it. We create chances we just don't take them Agreed. Or we hit the woodwork or they are saved by the keeper like on Tuesday. Our forward thinking players who have the potential to score goals from open play have to improve the quality of their strikes by putting more shots on target and in places where the keeper will struggle to save them. It's a quality / accuracy issue for me.
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Post by sipirate on Oct 4, 2018 11:39:26 GMT
What is happening off the field?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 4, 2018 11:58:54 GMT
What is happening off the field? Nothing.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2018 12:24:03 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. We are creating numerous chances in most games. Strangely the CM's, Serc's & OC both had I on 1's on Tuesday, the strikers only had the long range shot from Payne which hit the bar. Apart from Payne missing the chance V Coventry I can't recall when a striker last had & then missed a decent chance!! Nichols v Southend?
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 4, 2018 12:54:15 GMT
What do you expect when we are so slow and laborious in possession. We have no pace whatsoever down the wings, the formation keeps changing., We pile everybody back for corners and free kicks and don't have the speed to get up the pitch. Lines was behind Broadbent half the time on Tuesday. The Manager has to take the blame as he plays square pegs in round holes and relies on the whole team defending. Has anyone told DC that his tactics are negative and boring and needs some refreshment before we lose more support.
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Post by barleycorn48 on Oct 4, 2018 13:06:59 GMT
I’m not sure that recruiting even more coaches is the answer. We have Marcus Stewart who was able to work wonders on Bodin, Taylor and Harrison ect. For me it seems to be that we don’t have the right personnel to score too many and that won’t change unless we stop playing Nichols and recruit another winger and Striker in January to provide us with a much needed boost. I’m not overly worried about how things are going on the pitch but equally I’m not enthused by it either. It looks to me as it’s a case of carrying this season home in a lower mid table spot and going again next year. A cup run would make things more interesting but with DC’s track record, I doubt it. Bodin and Harrison are both individualists . Their best moments were doing things on there own, Taylor would always score at that level
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Post by axegas on Oct 4, 2018 13:35:00 GMT
I’m not sure that recruiting even more coaches is the answer. We have Marcus Stewart who was able to work wonders on Bodin, Taylor and Harrison ect. For me it seems to be that we don’t have the right personnel to score too many and that won’t change unless we stop playing Nichols and recruit another winger and Striker in January to provide us with a much needed boost. I’m not overly worried about how things are going on the pitch but equally I’m not enthused by it either. It looks to me as it’s a case of carrying this season home in a lower mid table spot and going again next year. A cup run would make things more interesting but with DC’s track record, I doubt it. Bodin and Harrison are both individualists . They best moments were doing things on there own, Taylor would always score at that level I think you’re missing the point, under DC and Marcus Stewart, we have always had sides who would score a fair amount of goals, we didn’t have the best defence but we could score a few. This is the first season where this hasnt happened, that suggests to me that the coaching is fine and it’s down to the style of play which is slow and lethargic at times or the mentality of the players. Why replace an attacking coaching setup that has brought us so much success over the years? Also I don’t believe Harrison and Bodin were individualists. They possessed talent yes, but that was unlocked fully through good coaching and hard work on the training ground. Ellis in particular has placed MS in high regard and said upon joining Ipswich that he had a big role in his development as a player.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 4, 2018 14:04:36 GMT
Don't agree with OP. We have signed players who haven't performed and scored ( they are probably of lesser ability than Taylor, Bodin and Harrison). But, I like what I've seen with Reilly - did you notice he scored with his left v coventry even though predominantly right footed. Would also say the lack of quality service from out wide has been generally diabolical (in home games).
Marcus - to me gets strikers to believe in themselves and use both feet to shoot - look at Gaffers, Harrison and Bodin - no wonder 2 of them moved on.
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Post by alvestongas on Oct 4, 2018 15:19:45 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. ...beat Coventry 3.1 just 10 days ago 🤷♂️
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Post by socrates on Oct 4, 2018 16:53:38 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Nail on the head there about wide men. Whenever we play very narrow we tend to look a bit tighter defensively but don’t create much st all. Over the last four years we’ve always had wide men for lines to pass to and then overlapping fullbacks bombing on. DCs success with us was built on it and since we’ve gone more narrow we’ve struggled.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 4, 2018 17:27:58 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor, Bodin et al are good footballers with potential that the coaching staff developed. There was something to work with. If our parsimonious owners won't invest in decent replacements what are the coaches supposed to do? You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear I'm afraid.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 4, 2018 17:28:03 GMT
No need for anyone new Just need current management to do their job properly
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Post by oldgas on Oct 4, 2018 17:29:11 GMT
Game after game Rovers fail to create chances and score. We have recruited players who have scored with their previous clubs. Then they play for us and the goals stop Surely it must be the training and tactics. I am becoming very worried the way the season is going on and off the field. Look how Taylor, Bodin and Harrison improved with the help of Marcus Stewart. Harrison said how he improved his game, when he left. Think Nichols confidence is shot, it was already hanging on a thread when we signed him. None of the other strikers have really been given a chance yet. We have not been playing with wingers have of the time, so it's no wonder we don't create many chance's. Taylor, Bodin et al are good footballers with potential that the coaching staff developed. There was something to work with. If our parsimonious owners won't invest in decent replacements what are the coaches supposed to do? You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear I'm afraid.
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