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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 8, 2018 17:07:45 GMT
As theres an awful lot of serious,doom and gloom stuff on the forum, expressed in varying degrees of anger, thought i would attempt to lighten the mood a bit . One of the most debated topics is DC'S constant team changes and playing players out of position, so Gas eds if you were the boss and had to pick an unchanged team for the next 5 league games ,who would you pick, no explanations required and you may suggest one change for away game if you wish,having taken ages to put mine together i now realize just how hard it is! Here's my selections based on ability , desire, hunger , and commitment to the cause of Bristol Rovers. and players currently available i think!Wouldn't mind betting that only one or two will be in every ones team!
Bonham,Partington,Lockyer,Menayese,Clarke.j, O.Clarke,Sercombe,Lines,Mathews, Reilly, Jackbiak.
SUBS Smith,Kelly,Russe,Sinclair,Rodman, Bennett,Upson.
My only concession to away game would be sacrifice striker for the beard!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2018 17:17:34 GMT
Bonham
Parts JC Craig Martin
Sercs OC Lines Matthew
Payne(if fit)/AJ Reilly
Locks I assume is on internationals duty next weekend?
Problem with that team is that our defence seems better since Sincs returned.
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Post by socrates on Oct 8, 2018 17:23:29 GMT
As theres an awful lot of serious,doom and gloom stuff on the forum, expressed in varying degrees of anger, thought i would attempt to lighten the mood a bit . One of the most debated topics is DC'S constant team changes and playing players out of position, so Gas eds if you were the boss and had to pick an unchanged team for the next 5 league games ,who would you pick, no explanations required and you may suggest one change for away game if you wish,having taken ages to put mine together i now realize just how hard it is! Here's my selections based on ability , desire, hunger , and commitment to the cause of Bristol Rovers. and players currently available i think!Wouldn't mind betting that only one or two will be in every ones team! Bonham,Partington,Lockyer,Menayese,Clarke.j, O.Clarke,Sercombe,Lines,Mathews, Reilly, Jackbiak. SUBS Smith,Kelly,Russe,Sinclair,Rodman, Bennett,Upson. My only concession to away game would be sacrifice striker for the beard!! It’s not so much about the rotating players that is the problem for me it’s the narrow football playing inside forwards both sides which chokes the play into the Center of the pitch and leaves us without any creativity or options. I’d go with this 4-2-3-1 Bonham Partington clarke Craig Kelly Clarke lines Bennet ( right side ) sercombe (no10) Mathews ( left side) Reilly Play with width and look to get lines spreading the play. All DCs success has been built on getting it to lines and him starting off attacks out wide. Since we’ve stopped doing that we’ve become predictable, narrow and too easy to defend against. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 17:43:10 GMT
Bonham
O.clarke
Mathews
The rest didn’t turn up.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2018 17:55:42 GMT
As theres an awful lot of serious,doom and gloom stuff on the forum, expressed in varying degrees of anger, thought i would attempt to lighten the mood a bit . One of the most debated topics is DC'S constant team changes and playing players out of position, so Gas eds if you were the boss and had to pick an unchanged team for the next 5 league games ,who would you pick, no explanations required and you may suggest one change for away game if you wish,having taken ages to put mine together i now realize just how hard it is! Here's my selections based on ability , desire, hunger , and commitment to the cause of Bristol Rovers. and players currently available i think!Wouldn't mind betting that only one or two will be in every ones team! Bonham,Partington,Lockyer,Menayese,Clarke.j, O.Clarke,Sercombe,Lines,Mathews, Reilly, Jackbiak. SUBS Smith,Kelly,Russe,Sinclair,Rodman, Bennett,Upson. My only concession to away game would be sacrifice striker for the beard!! It’s not so much about the rotating players that is the problem for me it’s the narrow football playing inside forwards both sides which chokes the play into the Center of the pitch and leaves us without any creativity or options. I’d go with this 4-2-3-1 Bonham Partington clarke Craig Kelly Clarke lines Bennet ( right side ) sercombe (no10) Mathews ( left side) Reilly Play with width and look to get lines spreading the play. All DCs success has been built on getting it to lines and him starting off attacks out wide. Since we’ve stopped doing that we’ve become predictable, narrow and too easy to defend against. We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. |
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 8, 2018 18:16:42 GMT
It’s not so much about the rotating players that is the problem for me it’s the narrow football playing inside forwards both sides which chokes the play into the Center of the pitch and leaves us without any creativity or options. I’d go with this 4-2-3-1 Bonham Partington clarke Craig Kelly Clarke lines Bennet ( right side ) sercombe (no10) Mathews ( left side) Reilly Play with width and look to get lines spreading the play. All DCs success has been built on getting it to lines and him starting off attacks out wide. Since we’ve stopped doing that we’ve become predictable, narrow and too easy to defend against. We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. fat arse will be gone in January |
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Post by Marshy on Oct 8, 2018 18:21:15 GMT
We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. fat arse will be gone in January She went 3 years ago when I divorced her. 🍾 |
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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 8, 2018 18:25:42 GMT
Good post
I don't think I've ever predicted a DC line up so I doubt he's gonna change his methods any time soon
To me it seems the biggest problem is finding the right balance in midfield
You have to play Sercombe and at present O Clarke
Bang them together in the middle.
For me it's
Bonham
Parts Locks Clarke THD (if he ever gets fit)
Mathews O Clarke Sercombe Bennie
Payne Jakubiak
The problem area for me is natural width.... we simply don't have enough! It's a priority in Jan that we look for a decent winger and possibly another tall centre back
Payne has to start and be told he is the focus of the team. Jakubiac needs a run of games. He might not be our player but to persist with Nichols now is madness. If this is to be a relegation scrap he is not the answer!
Personally I would interchange him and Bennett on the wide right of midfield.
Stick with a settled midfield at home. Away I can see the benefit of adding Sincs but otherwise I think DC needs to stick to what he thinks is his best 11 and give them 3/4 games together.
We need this left back fit in my opinion...., could be the making of this back 5 who of late are looking much better..... just need to start providing the forwards with some chances!
UTG
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 8, 2018 18:26:20 GMT
Off topic slightly, but does anyone know when THD will be fit to play?? Heard a few times, he's not too far away. A more attacking left back could make a difference to our side.
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Post by socrates on Oct 8, 2018 18:48:26 GMT
It’s not so much about the rotating players that is the problem for me it’s the narrow football playing inside forwards both sides which chokes the play into the Center of the pitch and leaves us without any creativity or options. I’d go with this 4-2-3-1 Bonham Partington clarke Craig Kelly Clarke lines Bennet ( right side ) sercombe (no10) Mathews ( left side) Reilly Play with width and look to get lines spreading the play. All DCs success has been built on getting it to lines and him starting off attacks out wide. Since we’ve stopped doing that we’ve become predictable, narrow and too easy to defend against. We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. The forward was the hardest to pick. I’d happily see Reilly Payne or Jack given a 5 game run in this formation and sercombe would be just behind them hanging around the edge of the box in the middle so hardly on their own. Main thing is the lines / sercombe problem would I think be solved. Lines would be the defensive deep laying playmaker , Olly clarke the ball winner and that would leave sercombe free to stay in the middle right up there in a free role. Bennet and Mathews would provide the width drilling low crosses in to the on coming Sercs and not playing on their wrong sides constantly compressing the play which they have done. |
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Post by lpgas on Oct 8, 2018 18:54:57 GMT
It's ok saying "get someone in January", but someone has to go because we are at our EFL spending limit.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 8, 2018 19:02:58 GMT
Bonham O.clarke Mathews The rest didn’t turn up. Oh dear!more doom and gloom! |
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Post by lpgas on Oct 8, 2018 19:05:08 GMT
Bonham,
Partington, Menayese, Clarke.j, Kelly
O.Clarke
Sercombe,Lines,Mathews,
Reilly, Jackbiak.
SUBS Smith,Russe,Sinclair,Rodman, Bennett, Upson.
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Post by rosssgb on Oct 8, 2018 19:07:42 GMT
Bonham
Partington Lockyer Broadbent(or Craig) Kelly
Lines O.Clarke Sercombe
Bennett Jakubiak Matthews
Need to get Sercombe in the team centrally and Matthews must start.
Payne would be up top for me if he wasn’t so overweight and offering nothing, Jak gets the nod ahead of Nichols and Reilly (Neither are good enough for L1).
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Post by socrates on Oct 8, 2018 19:21:56 GMT
Good post I don't think I've ever predicted a DC line up so I doubt he's gonna change his methods any time soon To me it seems the biggest problem is finding the right balance in midfield You have to play Sercombe and at present O Clarke Bang them together in the middle. For me it's Bonham Parts Locks Clarke THD (if he ever gets fit) Mathews O Clarke Sercombe Bennie Payne Jakubiak The problem area for me is natural width.... we simply don't have enough! It's a priority in Jan that we look for a decent winger and possibly another tall centre back Payne has to start and be told he is the focus of the team. Jakubiac needs a run of games. He might not be our player but to persist with Nichols now is madness. If this is to be a relegation scrap he is not the answer! Personally I would interchange him and Bennett on the wide right of midfield. Stick with a settled midfield at home. Away I can see the benefit of adding Sincs but otherwise I think DC needs to stick to what he thinks is his best 11 and give them 3/4 games together. We need this left back fit in my opinion...., could be the making of this back 5 who of late are looking much better..... just need to start providing the forwards with some chances! UTG You talk about lack of width but you’ve got Bennet on the left and Mathews on the right. There’s no width with that formation / set up. We played Bodin on the right and he was lethal but we complimented that with a left footer on the left . There was balance . Playing central midfielders out wide or wide players on their wrong side down both flanks will always end up suffocating the play unless you’ve got quality overlapping full backs like Lee brown or Michael Smith but we haven’t got that currently. Even when we had Browner we would usually play Bodin on the right and montano a left footer on the left and even though montano was average at best it usually worked because it gave us width and lines someone to aim for when spreading the play. |
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 8, 2018 19:31:38 GMT
We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. The forward was the hardest to pick. I’d happily see Reilly Payne or Jack given a 5 game run in this formation and sercombe would be just behind them hanging around the edge of the box in the middle so hardly on their own. Main thing is the lines / sercombe problem would I think be solved. Lines would be the defensive deep laying playmaker , Olly clarke the ball winner and that would leave sercombe free to stay in the middle right up there in a free role. Bennet and Mathews would provide the width drilling low crosses in to the on coming Sercs and not playing on their wrong sides constantly compressing the play which they have done. I do like the look of this but agree the no 9 is the issue, but think we have a few choices that would do better in this formation than 442. Also worry about lines defensive play, although we all know he can do it, but his strength is going / surging forward not tracking back |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:58:47 GMT
We created s0d all with two up front on Saturday!! I've not seen anything in Reilly's game to suggest he can play upfront on his own at this level, possibly a fit/interested Payne could do it. The forward was the hardest to pick. I’d happily see Reilly Payne or Jack given a 5 game run in this formation and sercombe would be just behind them hanging around the edge of the box in the middle so hardly on their own. Main thing is the lines / sercombe problem would I think be solved. Lines would be the defensive deep laying playmaker , Olly clarke the ball winner and that would leave sercombe free to stay in the middle right up there in a free role. Bennet and Mathews would provide the width drilling low crosses in to the on coming Sercs and not playing on their wrong sides constantly compressing the play which they have done. The Lines Sercombe problem is the key, and ironically it's been made even more difficult to resolve with Ollie's form being so good. |
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Post by z1zou on Oct 8, 2018 20:03:08 GMT
4-3-3
Bonham
Parts
J clarke
Menayese
Kelly
Sinclair
O clarke
Sercombe
Matthews
Bennett
Jakubiak/reilly/payne/nicho(does it matter)
I want to see players like bagdhadi getting minutes on the wing instead of playing so called strikers and centre midfielders there..
No more square pegs in round holes please DC
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Post by socrates on Oct 8, 2018 20:16:23 GMT
The forward was the hardest to pick. I’d happily see Reilly Payne or Jack given a 5 game run in this formation and sercombe would be just behind them hanging around the edge of the box in the middle so hardly on their own. Main thing is the lines / sercombe problem would I think be solved. Lines would be the defensive deep laying playmaker , Olly clarke the ball winner and that would leave sercombe free to stay in the middle right up there in a free role. Bennet and Mathews would provide the width drilling low crosses in to the on coming Sercs and not playing on their wrong sides constantly compressing the play which they have done. I do like the look of this but agree the no 9 is the issue, but think we have a few choices that would do better in this formation than 442. Also worry about lines defensive play, although we all know he can do it, but his strength is going / surging forward not tracking back I think Lines is a good deep laying playmaker and usually makes those great runs from deep not the opposition half. Also if we’ve got our wide players wider and sercombe ahead of him not beside him or out wide looking to cut in then those runs will be finalised with a decent ball rather than him running in to a dead end as he has been doing this season with no options. Regarding the 4-2-3-1 we could play lines as the number 10 and sercombe further back alongside clarke or Sincs because Lines will create chances for others more than sercombe but like I said I don’t think the problem is so much the rotating players it’s more the narrow one dimensional way that we’ve mostly been playing this season and getting attacking players out wider is imo a very possible solution. Only my opinion perhaps DC will try it and we’ll get hammered but I’d try it because we just can’t score goals at the moment and every team we come up against keep their full backs tucked in and close to their Center half’s knowing we always look to cut inside . It’s become painful to watch |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 20:18:07 GMT
4-3-1-2
Bonham
Partington Lockyer Craig Kelly/Martin
O Clarke Lines Sinclair
Sercombe
Reilly Jakubiak
Subs: Smith, Leadbitter, J Clarke, Upson, Bennett, Matthews, Payne.
Not bothered whether it's Kelly or Martin but it's essential in this formation that the full backs get forward to provide the width. If they don't, we're too narrow and predictable.
So, what about...
4-1-4-1
Bonham
Partington Lockyer Craig Kelly/Martin
Lines
Matthews Sercombe Clarke Bennett
Reilly
That would give us width, although I'd be happy for the wingers to swap wings to give the full backs different things to think about. Reilly has played most of his career as a lone striker I believe.
Or...
...you're right, this is difficult!!!
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