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Post by madgas on Oct 24, 2018 10:15:01 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 10:19:59 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
Admire your optimism, I want to believe it. I went to Burton, they were awful but deserved to win. Last night Wimbledon were woeful but if they had won we could not have complained. We are sinking. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 24, 2018 10:56:27 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
Admire your optimism, I want to believe it. I went to Burton, they were awful but deserved to win. Last night Wimbledon were woeful but if they had won we could not have complained. We are sinking. Could be turned both ways though. At Burton of Jakubiak scored the one on one, we would have won. If Matthews free kick against Walsall sent in off the post we would have won. If they were 2 wins, instead of defeats, how different would things look. We could have beat Oxford, but could have lost in the first half. But on the other hand, we could have lost last night etc. Most games have been close and could have gone either way. So we could be higher, could be lower. We could go on a run with a bit more luck, like we got last night. Confidence is a big thing in football. Hopefully last night will give us a boost. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 11:07:43 GMT
Admire your optimism, I want to believe it. I went to Burton, they were awful but deserved to win. Last night Wimbledon were woeful but if they had won we could not have complained. We are sinking. Could be turned both ways though. At Burton of Jakubiak scored the one on one, we would have won. If Matthews free kick against Walsall sent in off the post we would have won. If they were 2 wins, instead of defeats, how different would things look. We could have beat Oxford, but could have lost in the first half. But on the other hand, we could have lost last night etc. Most games have been close and could have gone either way. So we could be higher, could be lower. We could go on a run with a bit more luck, like we got last night. Confidence is a big thing in football. Hopefully last night will give us a boost. Dan You make your own luck. At Burton their defender passed to him with just the goalie to beat. He didn't. Walsall yes we hit the Post but rode our luck until it ran out. Remember Coventry? The record shows a decent 3-1 win. Those that were there will remember shaking their heads in disbelief that we were not at least 2-0 down in ten minutes. Same first half against Oxford. Our luck will run out, unless we improve, and we will get dicked big time. The next four games, if we get 4 points out of those I would be delighted. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 24, 2018 11:11:25 GMT
The next few games will be season defining as I sense we need more than just "luck" to get anything at either Barnsley or Blackpool and we also can't really afford to suffer another defeat in the first round of the cup to a non league side.
At the moment Bonham is probably the best goalie in Div 1 and one of the best I've ever seen in a Rover shirt, I can't even recall Nigel Martin making this many great saves week in. week out, I think it's more than just the fact we have a decent goalie for a change.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 24, 2018 11:29:23 GMT
I'm more than worried now after this run against really poor sides. The season will soon be getting a hell of a lot tougher. The players we've got at least are giving their all but they need organising pretty soon.
I think DC could well be very down at the moment if the rumours of NH returning have reached his ears. The prospect must come as a big kick in the teeth after the false dawn of the Al Qadi's
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Oct 24, 2018 11:43:33 GMT
Could be turned both ways though. At Burton of Jakubiak scored the one on one, we would have won. If Matthews free kick against Walsall sent in off the post we would have won. If they were 2 wins, instead of defeats, how different would things look. We could have beat Oxford, but could have lost in the first half. But on the other hand, we could have lost last night etc. Most games have been close and could have gone either way. So we could be higher, could be lower. We could go on a run with a bit more luck, like we got last night. Confidence is a big thing in football. Hopefully last night will give us a boost. Dan You make your own luck. At Burton their defender passed to him with just the goalie to beat. He didn't. Walsall yes we hit the Post but rode our luck until it ran out. Remember Coventry? The record shows a decent 3-1 win. Those that were there will remember shaking their heads in disbelief that we were not at least 2-0 down in ten minutes. Same first half against Oxford. Our luck will run out, unless we improve, and we will get dicked big time. The next four games, if we get 4 points out of those I would be delighted. You've said at the start 'You make your own luck' and at the end 'our luck will run out'. A bit contradictory isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 11:57:25 GMT
Dan You make your own luck. At Burton their defender passed to him with just the goalie to beat. He didn't. Walsall yes we hit the Post but rode our luck until it ran out. Remember Coventry? The record shows a decent 3-1 win. Those that were there will remember shaking their heads in disbelief that we were not at least 2-0 down in ten minutes. Same first half against Oxford. Our luck will run out, unless we improve, and we will get dicked big time. The next four games, if we get 4 points out of those I would be delighted. You've said at the start 'You make your own luck' and at the end 'our luck will run out'. A bit contradictory isn't it? Ha, fair shout. If we are not making enough chances then the mistakes through pressure, the luck, doesn't happen. The other team missing gilt edged chances is unearned luck. |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 24, 2018 11:58:03 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 24, 2018 12:14:06 GMT
You've said at the start 'You make your own luck' and at the end 'our luck will run out'. A bit contradictory isn't it? Ha, fair shout. If we are not making enough chances then the mistakes through pressure, the luck, doesn't happen. The other team missing gilt edged chances is unearned luck. The Oxford & Dons games disprove that logic though as we created 3 or 4 good chances on Saturday and didn't one of them, we created none last night and scored twice! Plus Dons must have had half a dozen but still didn't score. Perhaps it's all down to pure luck not earned luck after all!! |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 24, 2018 13:10:26 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
You’re correct. It’s fime lines isn’t it? Paddy get sent off at Wembley we could still be in non league or not be at all. The season we went up awful home record before Christmas saved by a good away record. Yet at Cambridge in October we had an awful first half were one down yet came back to win through Ellis. It’s always fine lines. At the moment imo people are frustrated at th eowners with no news on ground or training round and it’s the team and D.C. who are suffering. Pure frustration but it’s all about opinions isn’t it. Little perspective being shown at the moment, it’s either awful or something else, little in between. As you say, if the bounce of the ball had gone our way things may be very different. Fine lines! As it is they didn’t so we are where we are and we deal with it. Last night was an important 3 points ground out by a gas team low on confidence but who never gave up. The commitment of Craig with a bad injury showed that. I can think of 1 or 2 players (and only 1 or 2 fortunately) who wouldn’t have gone back on. UTG! |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 24, 2018 13:41:53 GMT
You've said at the start 'You make your own luck' and at the end 'our luck will run out'. A bit contradictory isn't it? Ha, fair shout. If we are not making enough chances then the mistakes through pressure, the luck, doesn't happen. The other team missing gilt edged chances is unearned luck.
No, according to a lot on here this is down to a good defensive all-round performance
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Post by costahotshot on Oct 24, 2018 15:11:10 GMT
As the saying goes “But for ifs and buts we would all be millionaires “, sometimes luck goes for you other times not, it’s what you do with it that counts, it went for us last night and we kept a clean sheet and got 3 points, now to use it as a platform to move forward, let’s be positive and get behind the team UTG
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Post by madgas on Oct 24, 2018 15:27:08 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
Admire your optimism, I want to believe it. I went to Burton, they were awful but deserved to win. Last night Wimbledon were woeful but if they had won we could not have complained. We are sinking. I dont really think Wimbledon deserved to win, it had 0-0 all over it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:37:50 GMT
Admire your optimism, I want to believe it. I went to Burton, they were awful but deserved to win. Last night Wimbledon were woeful but if they had won we could not have complained. We are sinking. I dont really think Wimbledon deserved to win, it had 0-0 all over it. They had two shots on goal more than us. One ended against the Post, one Craig cleared off the line. We had no such thing. |
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Post by badengas on Oct 24, 2018 16:26:38 GMT
We've already got Benny, who is going to be Miss Diane ?
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Post by madgas on Oct 24, 2018 16:33:50 GMT
I dont really think Wimbledon deserved to win, it had 0-0 all over it. They had two shots on goal more than us. One ended against the Post, one Craig cleared off the line. We had no such thing. Scored goals though. Wimbledon had a long time knowing they’d need at least a goal to get something out the game. Every long ball was headed out of our box. The point of the original post is to illustrate that things are likely to change. And it’s not it’s abundantly clear which way they’ll go. Start scoring and we might be one of the best teams. Stop this solid defending and we could be the worst. It’s not “optimistic” to say a team that has as little of the ball as us and concedes as few goals has potential. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 19:06:20 GMT
I'll admit we're in quite a funny position.
We're quite low, relegation looks plausible but I don't think its likely.
We're creating few chances, but conceding few goals.
I know many believe that the keeper is "saving" us, but I think part of this is due to the fact we haven't had a keeper that can do this for a very long time. A keeper should make saves. It's all one unit and the defence is unquestionably working.
More impressively, the defensive success is happening whilst the other end is faltering. We are having to do a lot of defending in matches, and have infrequently had the benefit of a lead, yet we continue to defend well.
Had we managed to see out injury time at Burton and Walsall we'd be unbeaten in 9.
We'd of lost once since Start of September.
We're creeping into something...
or we could not be.
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Post by Fat Albert on Oct 24, 2018 19:20:58 GMT
I don’t think we were defensively solid at alll.
Wimbledon hit the post, had one off the line and JB made an absolutely point blank save all in the first half.
None of these were half chances. Teams that are tight don’t give away 3 chances like that every game.
Bonham has papered over the cracks.
At the other end I wouldn’t lay all the blame on the strikers, we just don’t create enough on a regular basis.
UTG
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 20:32:09 GMT
I don’t think we were defensively solid at alll. Wimbledon hit the post, had one off the line and JB made an absolutely point blank save all in the first half. None of these were half chances. Teams that are tight don’t give away 3 chances like that every game. Bonham has papered over the cracks. At the other end I wouldn’t lay all the blame on the strikers, we just don’t create enough on a regular basis. UTG Yes I agree with this. It's the formation and not utilising our midfield playmakers. |
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